newstand?
― the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
the inkies shifted hundreds of thousands of copies a week in the 1970s
Incidentally I just discovered taht Everett True was actually initially a supposedly every-man comic character who debuted in the early 230th century and had been revived for a comics catalogue the year taht Jerry Thackray was fired from the NME and thought the Legend penname was too attached to taht publication.https://www.google.ie/search?q=outbursts+of+everett+true&rlz=1C1DVCJ_enIE452IE454&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=AjifUqSeKOSw7AauloHwDQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=652#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=tk0WOa6-6yjk4M%3A%3Bt86NMCBkKZkyAM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%252F2595%252F4177895834_e3a128930f_o.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fovo127.com%252F2010%252F09%252F10%252Fa-d-condo-and-j-w-raper-the-outbursts-of-everett-true-38%252F%3B404%3B800is several of the comic strips featuring him.
I can't be awake yetor I'd know that the town that everybody loves in the title of the oral history on grunge is Seattle not Minneapolis. Can't think why I'd confuse the two.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
& also might be able to type 20th instead of 230th.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
your posts appear to be the ravings of a lunatic whose band received a poor review from ET in the 1980s. if your intention is to make him look bad you're really not succeeding.
― the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
i'm appreciating katherine's contributions itt
― reddening, Wednesday, December 4, 2013 3:11 AM (3 hours ago)
me too, if nothing else
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
me too
also i don't remember but i probably made some great posts
― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
i was happy to find out katherine was KATHERINE katherine
― tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
cant tell if collapse board is sadder than sportsjournalists.com or if theyre both equally sad
― max, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
FWIW, Jerry/ET posted here back in the early days and the only reason I have a vague kind of writing profile in the UK music press is due to writing in Careless Talk Costs Lives and its successors, and now The Quietus. So I'll still thank him for that!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
He was a good writer and a vibrant figure for a long time, and totally deserves respect for ploughing new furrows over and over.
― giant faps are what you take, wanking on the moon (sic), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
man i feel bad that i don't know who katherine is
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link
gave up and posted on that comments section so
― katherine, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link
I love katherine's posts but have never figured out if she is a) the first victim of the Maura's infamous Fancy A Bout Of Alcohol Poisoning karaoke night b) a friend of bell_labs I once had drinks with or c) somebody else entirely
― fear of zing failure (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link
whoa, irl just crept into my ilx
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
ilx is well known for irl creeps
― bnw, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
as for taking this seriously feel free to replace all text with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHXgdtiFRNY
― katherine, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
A nasty hangover today and I was thinking "I haven't felt this bad since
xp perfect
― fear of zing failure (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
whoa xp
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
great responses katherine, both here and on collapseboard
― fear of zing failure (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
yeah, great stuff katherine
amazing how infuriating this is, considering the stakes.
― napgenius (goole), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
http://tinyurl.com/pztmnkbis several pages with the Outbursts of Everett True comic strip that Jerry Thackray named himself after. Hadn't known the source of the name until earlier today when I posted this with a longer URL.Apparently the character had been revived in a comic catalogue earlier in the year that the once Legend had been fired from the NME and thought the pen-name too associated with that publication.
Interesting strip, possibly a bit dated but it is from the early years of the 20th century. I think it debuted in 1905.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
the Tony Isabella cover version was in CBG, not a "catalogue"
― giant faps are what you take, wanking on the moon (sic), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link
I can see you, you know.
― failed music critic, Thursday, 5 December 2013 02:50 (ten years ago) link
What's up failed music critic
What'd you have for breakfast today
― 乒乓, Thursday, 5 December 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link
I was eating my own words. Again.
― failed music critic, Thursday, 5 December 2013 03:26 (ten years ago) link
hot stuff coming through:
http://www.imposemagazine.com/features/chris-ott-shallow-rewards-interview
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
I think this guy has apoint or two
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
I am part of an age group that was raised to believe that if you went to school and learned a particular skill, you would come out of school with a chance at turning that skill into a career.That’s called entitlement. I’m sorry you weren’t better protected. I don’t understand how anyone can justifiably look at the world and say, “I should earn a living wage to express my deep, intense feelings about a local band.” The only way you can do that is if you let people sell ads on the back of your exuberance.
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link
"Get a job. That’s what I did. I got a job."
will get right on that, maybe I can buy one at the grocery store, wait no I can't afford to buy groceries this month
― katherine, Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
Doesn't Ott understand that advertising is simply the way corporations give back to the community
― 乒乓, Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
He found his contrarianism no longer welcome in an industry that, due almost entirely to Pitchfork's rise, now rejected controversy.
ok seriously this is how the reporter frames this shit??
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
The writer means controversy over what bands are cool and what bands are not
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
Q: Bullshit—why did you start writing for the internet if you weren't vain?
A: Because I wanted to express something that wasn’t being expressed anywhere else.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
okay, I'm reading on further and his more reasonable option: "I got a job as an administrative assistant at a book publisher, making twenty-two grand." oh my god this is amazing. you want to talk "fucking deluded"? I was actually interviewed for a job as an assistant at a book publisher this year. You know how many people applied for the job (they told me at the interview)? 500. Five hundred. That's a 0.2 percent chance of getting a job. Harvard has better admissions odds. Even if you assume that a large portion of the applicants are unqualified (I mean, it's entry-level, but in the 2013 job market the process of becoming qualified realistically starts in, like, middle school), only a handful of people were asked to interview. Out of 500 applicants.
― katherine, Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
It's not Ott's fault that the job market stinks, though. His point stands.
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
reading on even further and "political correctness" is being used as a justification for hiring women, nope
― katherine, Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
wait till you get to the Pell twins point.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link
"When guys find out that there are cool girls that listen to cool music, they’re going to listen to those girls more than the guys that they’re jealous of."
nope nope nope hahahahahahaha NOPE. I'm sure this is going to be dismissed automatically because it's from a Pitchfork writer (a damn good writer, too), but I think it's a better depiction of how guys react to girls who listen to music (source: I am a girl)
http://lindsayzoladz.tumblr.com/post/29966963774/dont-blame-us-four-women-talk-about-why-they-didnt
― katherine, Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
thanks, katherine. Love this part:
And then they quiz you on the artist’s entire catalog. For instance, I really like this one Mission of Burma album, but I am hesitant to bring that up to a man, because I don’t listen to ALL of their albums. I agree that men are more likely to think their opinions are Definitive and Correct.
As per women not finding as much pleasure in solitary activities, maybe? But a lot of our lady friends love to read and to discuss books and articles and etc. I’m turned off from talking about music because I’ve encountered so many men who are mainsplain-y about it, while I haven’t had that same experience with books, because a lot of men are dismissive of, like, Jane Eyre, so we never have those convos to begin with.”
yes yes amen
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
Honestly I think it takes some things to have the energy to make one of those: a) some degree of narcissism to assume that literally anyone cares what albums you like b) enough self esteem to believe your choices are correct or to not care if people disagree with you or think less of you because of which albums you like c) the fastidious patience to actually complete a task that is based mainly in narcissism.
Yes!
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
Those are obvious points that a high schoolers know. "Wow! Did you know that writers are narcissists because they want people to read their shit? YOU DON'T SAY."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
Way to ignore his main points guys. I guess you guys think music writers should be paid like kings
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
"I don’t want to pile on an already disadvantaged gender. I feel they deserve a little more explanation for why they bother me. A guy doesn’t deserve that."
this is a very peculiar form of logic. I don't even know what to compare it to. maybe that VICE spread about models dressed as female writers who committed suicide, in honor of their all-woman issue?
― katherine, Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
I'm not ignoring his main points, but the only logical conclusion to his main points is "destroy capitalism" because there is likely no paying job in the system that does not indirectly fund people's huge mansions. some may be more direct than others, but I don't think directness comes into his argument at all.
― katherine, Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
Did you know that writers are narcissists because they want people to read their shit?
You are way over simplifying the point. The point of that clip is male music writers are so narcissistic that they think people CARE what their ten best albums of all time are. Yes, all writers are narcissists who want to share their art with the world. It takes a particular kind of self involvement to spend the time and energy ranking your all time music, that your choices are best, etc and so forth.
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
well, yeah
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
I'll let Ann Powers know.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
Fuck them for besmirching the name of DIY and punk and hardcore in the pursuit of being cool.
God
― 乒乓, Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
You think Ott ever went to a Warped Tour