Year-End Critics' Polls 2013

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Julee Cruise, yeah OTM.

a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link

Agree with Matt DC - Ekstasis is the one you can sing along to.

freemen (on the) space (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link

pazz and jop ballots out

katherine, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link

"I'm thinking of getting the Lambkin / Lescalleet album for someone for Chrimbo but I'm a bit confused about the many many formats. Anyone more fmailiar with it than I am? Sounds like there's something like 8 different ways you can buy it. And not many places seem to sell it either?"

curious what you mean by this, as I run the label that released it, and there is only one way to buy it currently, as a somewhat pricy, elaborately packaged double CD (no vinyl, no legal DLs).

jon abbey, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

oh hi jon - okay, i only had a quick look online and there looked like there were loads of formats? where can i buy it?

a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

beef, send me an e-mail at erstr✧✧✧@a✧✧.c✧✧ and let me know where it's shipping to and I'll get you a price, thanks!!

jon abbey, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link

I guess that is for my protection, let's try it this way: e r s t r e c s @ a o l . c o m

jon abbey, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link

Have just twigged what Call Back The Giants is. Graham Lambkin and Tim Goss both on the Wire list -> the secret ascendancy of the Shadow Ring.

diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link

xpost - cheers

a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link

Re that American Songwriters list - I tried with Jason Isbell a bunch of times but it never clicked for me. On the other hand in glad to see the Josh Ritter album show up somewhere on one of these lists (it shows up in the 30s). It's his beat album and seems to have been ignored all year long.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link

To me it feels as though it's been a really strong year for Wire-style music. That top ten is really really in line with my own EOY list. The Laurel Halo album is just so satisfying in the half-awake, twitchy way she seems to be able to do. The Rashad Becker album is like nothing int his wide world but so immersive and strangely (given the surface content) evocative. Still don't understand Tim Hecker but I'm sure it'll click one day. Same with Oneohtrix, always had trouble with him but the album's growing on me, especially since watching the film 'Le Ravissement de Frank N Stein' from where the album cover's taken from. RP Boo? Well as any fule'kno I'm a big footwork fan but I think DJ Rashad was making bigger waves in that genre this year and Double Cup is a really succinct record compared to this, but it's not without its moments. Wolf Eyes is Wolf Eyes, but more structured, almost song-based. THe Lambkin / Lescalleet albumn I've only just discovered and it's great - mostly made up of field recordings and interviews but hugely emotional for some reason. The Knife's is my AOTY.

― a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, December 11, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

For Hecker - listen as loud as possible. Also I like Virgins a lot but within Hecker's discography I'd rank it below Harmony in Ultraviolet and Ravedeath 1972.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link

good to see plenty of overlap between the wire list and my own personal list -- i wasn't so crazy about the holter album, though.

comics on fire (get bent), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link

seen quite a few people saying they were surprised (and perhaps a little disappointed) to see so many things they were already familiar in the wire list. is this cos the wire are getting less militantly avant or cos we're all better informed or what?

diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

pazz and jop ballots out

― katherine, Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:17 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Always nice to see that I'm still on the mailing list.

Noblesse J. Blige (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link

I tried giving Ravedeath another listen today but really all I hear are sustained random piano chords fed through way too much digital distortion. It belies the ascribed genius of Tim Hecker and sounds like something I feel like I could make quite easily with home software. Still waiting for it to click really but I'm not getting any emotion or resonance, it just sounds like mess, tossed off.

a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

Dummy - Best Albums
http://www.dummymag.com/lists/the-20-best-albums-of-2013

1. GLASSER - 'INTERIORS' [True Panther]
2. DANIEL AVERY - 'DRONE LOGIC' [Phantasy Sound]
3. KANYE WEST - 'YEEZUS' [Def Jam]
4. THE KNIFE - 'SHAKING THE HABITUAL' [Brille]
5. JAMES BLAKE - 'OVERGROWN' [Polydor]
6. DEAN BLUNT - THE REDEEMER [Hippos In Tanks]
7. ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER - 'R PLUS SEVEN' [Warp]
8. KA - 'THE NIGHT'S GAMBIT' [Iron Works]
9. E.M.M.A - 'BLUE GARDENS' [Keysound]
10. AUTRE NE VEUT - 'ANXIETY' [Software]

diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

I liked some stuff on the wire list okay, a lot I haven't heard though.

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

Reading about Tim Hecker's process for making that album, 'tossed off' is probably about as far away from the reality as you could get.

diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

Where's that whiney piece?

diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

Nick - I subscribed to the Wire for the first time this year. Think my threshold for the kind of music they cover was really affected by Scott Walker, Laurel Halo, Neneh Cherry and Engine Kang releases from last year, but I've always liked 'new' music to an extent yet previously found Wire ' s coverage just a bit too obscure until now. So I don't know, is it a bit of both? I def have more time for' conceptual' music than I did before. It's also the Year I got into jazz.

a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

here you go: http://www.spin.com/articles/tim-hecker-virgins-attack-of-the-drones-interview/

gotta catch a bus or otherwise i'd excerpt some bits but it's worth a read xp

diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link

Re: Hecker, I mean that's it, I always hear about how much effort he puts into his compositions but they always sound so cackhanded, like he just fed a bunch of notes through a distortion pedal and pressed record.

a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link

LOL @ "Engine Kang"

sleeve, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link

autocorrect, I know :)

sleeve, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link

one of the things about the Tim Hecker that I really loved was the layering of all those sounds, some of it's exquisitely detailed imo. sure it's sometimes surrounded by fog but it's all in there!

diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link

seen quite a few people saying they were surprised (and perhaps a little disappointed) to see so many things they were already familiar in the wire list. is this cos the wire are getting less militantly avant or cos we're all better informed or what?

― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:53 PM (24 minutes ago)

Bit of both I think, though my claim that the Wire got noticeably more populist over the last several years is somewhat shot down by some of the covers from just before I started reading it. I think I started during a 'militantly avant' phase, though. We covered this in a different thread somewhere.

emil.y, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

Engine Kang sounds like a vintage Japanese video game.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link

There's no way on earth that Glasser album is the best of the year.

Position Position, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link

Bit of both I think, though my claim that the Wire got noticeably more populist over the last several years is somewhat shot down by some of the covers from just before I started reading it. I think I started during a 'militantly avant' phase, though. We covered this in a different thread somewhere.

With both this year's Quietus and Wire lists I felt not nearly as... alienated+frustrated by year-end round-ups as I typically am

fear of zing failure (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link

(still alienated and frustrated tho that goes w/out saying, just that "wow that's a lot of records I actually love")

fear of zing failure (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link

The Quietus and to a lesser extent The Wire do the only year-end round-ups that are worth shit-all

veneer timber (imago), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link

Everyone else just circulates the same tedious highprofile bullshit (even if some of it isn't bullshit, the lists are invariably lazy & arbitrary)

veneer timber (imago), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

Well my mind doesn't grade music numerically so lists are a waste of time and space as a rule, filed away next to games of "Babe or Minger", but it is nice to see "oh cool we listen to a lot of the same records"

fear of zing failure (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link

well exactly

veneer timber (imago), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link

but I do feel that a lot of year-end round-ups are quite interchangeable in their breadth of listening, and while it's nice for people who've largely heard those albums to be validated over & over again, it's a little frustrating that there's so much amazing stuff out there getting next to no exposure

veneer timber (imago), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link

some of it's exquisitely detailed

This poncey nonsense is a consequence of me writing while i was rushing out the door but what i meant is i love the stratified depths of sound and the sometimes dizzying effects he creates from these. I won't lie though, mostly I love Tim Hecker cos it's gorgeous but powerful music to sit around feeling morose to, so maybe it's a temperament thing?

diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link

I know it's basically a christmas catalogue for tarts but I do love the end of year lists that Boomkat do, discovered so much good stuff through those.

diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link

so glad to see alasdair roberts on the wire list!!

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link

a timely reminder that i need to listen to that one. how does in rank in the roberts oeuvre?

diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link

it's among the more flowery of his albums (compared to the solo/straight ahead ballad stuff) -- lots of guests, different instruments and arrangements on every song -- but there are lots of really good songs and an incest ballad that really takes the cake. it is one of those albums that creates and lives in its own little universe. this will probably make sense to anyone who likes him and not much sense to everyone else.

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link

made sense to me apart from the incest cake thing

test listicles (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

but i love it!!

this is brother seed, the aforementioned ballad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVme8xe7NNo

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

i meant that it was really good! it takes the cake!

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

always get that confused with taking the biscuit tbh

test listicles (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

what has this to do with the tart catalogue

i am curious #yolo (wins), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link

there's a hierarchy of baked comestibles i suppose. cakes at one end, biscuits at the other. i think this is wrong, but this is how it seems. jam tarts somewhere in the middle.

test listicles (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link

still think night is advancing is best ali roberts

=(3 Ɛ)= (cozen), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link

i do like the chord progression on that song LL, nice overall sound too!

test listicles (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link

I liked the Alasdair Roberts, but I think Spoils is the best thing he's ever done. That album was just about perfect

Dan S, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link


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