Gene Clark S/D, C/D

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anyhoo back to gene, man, that song "for no one" on the white light demos is sooooo amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0oOna4l_ug

tylerw, Friday, 13 December 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link

The versatility of his voice is amazing

nostormo, Friday, 13 December 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link

Yes. The White Light Demos is essential Gene Clark. The version of White Light is superior to album.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 13 December 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link

he has an amazing voice.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 13 December 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link

Had

nostormo, Friday, 13 December 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link

yeah

:(

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 13 December 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link

Still does. He has an awesome country-rock duo with Gram up in heaven.

dan selzer, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link

Let's die

nostormo, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link

but we don't have to, this is why god gives us skilled caricaturists.

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Friday, 13 December 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link

The chorus of "Triad" should go: "Why can't I have two girlfriends?"

Gotta take it slow in your fast ride (calstars), Friday, 13 December 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link

I got tickets to the No Other concert in New York

Gotta take it slow in your fast ride (calstars), Friday, 13 December 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link

The chorus of "Triad" should go: "Why can't I have two girlfriends?"

"it would be groooooooooovy / for meeeee"

tylerw, Friday, 13 December 2013 22:46 (ten years ago) link

Another Crosby Byrds classic: Renaissance Fair. The concept of people dressed up as knights is such a mind blower, he thinks maybe he's dreaming.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 14 December 2013 02:18 (ten years ago) link

Oh man, 'For No One'..

The death of Gene Clark: Saddest event in music history? Not necessarily the most important, and neither unexpected nor dramatic, just so fucking tragic how he spent 20 years quietly destroying himself. Townes Van Zandt's story, while partly unbearably dark, at least contains some light. I don't know of much to smile about in Clark's life post-Byrds. Except the music of course.

Mule, Saturday, 14 December 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

Saddest event in music history?

Not even close! At least he had success commercially and critically in his lifetime. And I'm sure he wasn't exactly poor for most of his adult life either.

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 December 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link

I read the bio Mr. Tambourine Man. His adult life was not good. Especially bleak at the end with surgeries to remove most of his intestines and stomach. The real tragedy is what an asshole he became, how difficult he was. With the drinking and a lot of bitterness. One of those cases where you just with the right person got through to him, but it never happened.

dan selzer, Saturday, 14 December 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link

There's no shortage of sad stories in the music business, let's be honest

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 December 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link

You're right obviously. A tad hyperbolic on my part. But it fucking sad, nonetheless

Haven't read the book, is it good?

Mule, Saturday, 14 December 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link

john einarson's bio is excellent.

fit and working again, Saturday, 14 December 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link

with all the sad you want.

fit and working again, Saturday, 14 December 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link

I have that book but have yet to read it. Maybe I'll start it now.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 14 December 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

Listening to Firebyrd for the first time. It's so good. I don't think there is a bad Gene Clark song.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 14 December 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link

the saddest thing is that he hit paydirt when tom petty covered feel a lot better and the album sold 12 gazillion copies. i think he basically drunk up all that money.

extraterrestrial★squad (amateurist), Monday, 16 December 2013 05:12 (ten years ago) link

he hit paydirt when the byrds recorded that song.

fit and working again, Monday, 16 December 2013 06:53 (ten years ago) link

A period of abstinence and recovery followed until Tom Petty's cover of "I'll Feel a Whole Lot Better" on his 1989 album Full Moon Fever yielded a huge amount of royalty money to Clark who quickly reverted to drug and alcohol abuse.

just sayin, Monday, 16 December 2013 07:30 (ten years ago) link

he hit paydirt when the byrds recorded that song.

― fit and working again, Monday, December 16, 2013 12:53 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i bet that tom petty album sold shit-tons more than the byrds single/album, because 1980s

extraterrestrial★squad (amateurist), Monday, 16 December 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

for sure. just pointing out that gene made a ton of money when he was in the byrds.

fit and working again, Monday, 16 December 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link

so Tom Petty killed Gene Clark? what a jerk

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 December 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link

roy orbison joins a band with tom petty, roy dies. tom petty covers a gene clark song, gene dies. suspicious...

tylerw, Monday, 16 December 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link

someone get angela lansbury on the case

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 December 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link

angela lansbury wouldn't take that case in a million years.

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Monday, 16 December 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link

Breakdown, She Wrote

tylerw, Monday, 16 December 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link

Tonight on A Current Affair...Did rock and roll legend Tom Petty send Gene Clark and Roy Orbison Into the Great Wide Open? Don't Do Me Like That, Tom!

kornrulez6969, Monday, 16 December 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link

"I felt a whole lot better when he was gone," Petty confessed.

tylerw, Monday, 16 December 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link

The Heartbreakers back up Johnny Cash...later Johnny Cash dies. Film at 11!

Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 December 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link

"I felt a whole lot better when he was gone," Petty confessed.

― tylerw, Monday, December 16, 2013 4:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A+

extraterrestrial★squad (amateurist), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 23:58 (ten years ago) link

Strength of Strings is the best song ever, seriously.

nostormo, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:11 (ten years ago) link

Some Misunderstanding is his grand achievement.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:49 (ten years ago) link

only recently discovered the David Hemmings 1967 album "David Hemmings Happens" which features various Byrds and this lovely Gene Clark song (which sounds v Lee Hazlewood to me!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBZmYvJf7M0

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Why Not Your Baby is such a devastatingly beautiful song; so melancholy, despite the chuckle-headed banjo groove running through it. Gene is at his best when he takes a simple sentiment and makes it profound & otherworldly imo. see also: I Knew I'd Want You, One in a Hundred, True One etc. etc.

charlie h, Friday, 27 February 2015 05:29 (nine years ago) link

Why Not Your Baby is such a devastatingly beautiful song; so melancholy, despite the chuckle-headed banjo groove running through it.

That's exactly why I love the Velvet Crush version of this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu4D5MaS3Cs&sns=em

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 28 February 2015 13:56 (nine years ago) link

Has anyone seen this documentary about him? Been wondering whether I should track it down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSrwsPV1G1I

japishco, Saturday, 28 February 2015 14:01 (nine years ago) link

Posted on The Byrds POX:

Just listened to this very-well-recorded live set: Gene Clark, Michael Clarke, Rick Danko, Richard Manuel, Blondie Chaplin, and (not listed, but mentioned by Clark) John York, live in Evansville, Indiana, 1985. This was one of those "tribute" (or actually "reunion" was the billing for this, it sez here), tours that Clark did 'til McGuinn & Hillman made him cease and desist, I think I read elsewhere (on another site with such tapes: a fairly well-documented era.) But, though it does go in sev. directions---Danko sings a cool "Honest I Do," we also get good "The Shape I'm In" and "The Rumour": even some 80s-appropriate chrome 'n' coke, like Chaplin singing "Shake Your Ass," and his suave, hearty turn from Beach Boys tours, "Sail On Sailor," plus some post-Byrds Clark songs that go on too long---it also works as a fairly euphoric, certainly energized Byrds tributes, with real good harmonies, emulating-not-imitating the Bryds. Also another toot of the coke for a 9: 24 "Eight Miles High" which doesn't much miss McGuinn (more speedy than jazzy, but I think it works) Finale: luvly "Turn Turn Turn." Dang if only The Byrds could have kept Gene. Here's the tracks & notes:
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1628

― dow, Tuesday, February 24, 2015 12:41 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dow, Saturday, 28 February 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link

And the xpost "other site with such tapes" is bbchron, which has more from this tour, also McGuinn & Clark duo shows etc, but what you'll see at the top of this page is The Gene Clark Fan Club Box, disc/zips 1-7. I haven't checked 'em. Have listened to several of bbchron's Byrds posts, which are good (good-enough sound, music as good as Byrds in various quartets,subsets were on particular occasions)(also have Byrds with Flying Burrito Brothers, but missing most of the participants I'd prefer, so haven't listened to that yet either). Here's Gene:
http://bbchron.blogspot.com/search?q=Gene+Clark

dow, Saturday, 28 February 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link

that's a wonderful cover of Why Not Your Baby. thanks for posting, Native!

very curious about that documentary. meant to be insightful, despite being quite speculative in a lot of ways.

charlie h, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 03:58 (nine years ago) link

i have to say, that velvet crush cover has very little or none of the lyricism of the original :(

and i love the banjo on the original! banjo + string arrangement = beautiful!

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 04:04 (nine years ago) link

also, the harmonies!

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 04:06 (nine years ago) link

don't get me wrong: i love the banjo too! i just find it remarkable that the song manages to be so sad with such a sprightly banjo line. a lot of it comes down to Gene's lyricism, as you say.

charlie h, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 04:10 (nine years ago) link

like a lot of great pop music it's in large part the mix of sad subject matter and uptempo major chords that makes it resonate strongly

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 06:26 (nine years ago) link

I came to "Why Not Your Baby" thru the VC cover – amateurist and I seem to be having disagreements of late but I think it's damn lyrical (the Greg Leisz pedal steel solo is unreal). Also, I think it's pretty faithful all things considered.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 07:02 (nine years ago) link


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