Monday April 21, 2014 - 9-11pm ET
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 29 December 2013 07:59 (ten years ago) link
(according to the PBS/Independent Lens site)
Yes!
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 29 December 2013 08:00 (ten years ago) link
also I need to FP curmudgeon for suggesting there be LESS skynyrd
cmon mayne
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 29 December 2013 08:00 (ten years ago) link
If the choice is between Muscle Shoals soul folks and Skynyrd, I have to stand my ground and stick with the soul folks
― curmudgeon, Monday, 30 December 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
imagine there's a skynyrd, and a muscle shoals
imagine alllll the peeeeeoppllleeee
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 December 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link
http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2014/09/today_tickets_on_sale_for_perc.html
Percy Sledge has liver cancer and the following folks are doing a benefit show to help him with his expenses: Eddie Floyd, Pat Upton, Gary Baker, Walt Aldridge, Donnie Fritts, The Decoys, Travis Wammack and Three Wheel Drive are scheduled to perform on September 30 at 7:30 p.m. at the Marriott Shoals Conference Center
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
Best wishes to Percy.
Tried to watch that doc but it was painful. Of the talking heads I'll take Keef and Jimmy Cliff and leave the rest.
― Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 September 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link
Looking forward to Ed King and Gregg Allman though.
― Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 September 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link
ok
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 September 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link
Changed it up. Watched "A Band Called Death" instead.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:02 (nine years ago) link
Okay giving this another try. That Irish guy with the tinted glasses I can take or leave.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link
Just enjoy the good and fascinating stuff, persevere through the rest and don't think about what was left out( that is, how Hall benefited from Arthur Alexander's singing and songwriting early on; and about how Hall benefited from Penn/Oldham's writing and from the vocals of Candi Staton and others; and how all of those folks together made Muscle Shoals)
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:19 (nine years ago) link
That's the approach I decided to take, more or less, thanks, enjoy the good stuff, sit through the humdrum stuff, go back to Sweet Soul Music and Get A Shot of Rhythm and Blues for the details.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:47 (nine years ago) link
Okay, there is some good stuff in there, great retelling of the story of Duane Allman convincing Wilson Pickett to record "Hey Jude," or how the sessions with Aretha finally got going but then went astray. But there was a lot of stuff that was under-emphasized or ignored, including your examples of Arthur Alexander's star power that ignited the whole thing (or in fact the entire musical scene centered around the movie house across the street from the drugstore and studio, is that theater even mentioned) and the Penn/Oldham contribution (do they ever really explain what Dan Penn did at all?) There was also no mention of any of the Memphis musicians that took part in these recordings-especially Tommy Cogbill and Chips Moman. Chips played lead guitar on "Land of a Thousand Dances" and Tommy played bass on all of those Wilson Pickett tracks as far as I know.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 September 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link
I know, I know, some people think it is all about Rick Hall and the rest is just superfluous detail but...
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 September 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link
Chips and Tommy also played on "I Never Loved a Man (The Way I Love You)"
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 September 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link
David Hood might have still been mainly playing trombone at that time.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 September 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link
Hm. David Hood actually has that tune listed on his discography on his website, even though every other source says he was working on a horn chart that wasn't used and Tommy C played the bass.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 September 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link
I saw Holly George-Warren (who did that Chilton book) do a presentation on Arthur Alexander at the EMP in New Orleans. I think she is also credited with having worked on the movie, so I am guessing the director and producer of the movie made the decision to keep the story focussed on Hall and not mention all those folks whom Hall worked with
― curmudgeon, Monday, 29 September 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link
For whatever reason, they decided the story was easier to tell if it focused on Rick Hall and then filled in space around him with whatever details would fit. That was the wrong way to go about it imo, but it was still an exceedingly pleasing doc to watch and I learned some stuff I never even knew despite living there for most of the 90s.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 September 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
Convenience link to brief discussion of Muscle Shoals reggae connection: Big Star
― Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2015 04:26 (nine years ago) link
David Hood interview: http://www.al.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2014/09/post_266.html
― Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2015 05:27 (nine years ago) link
Great interview!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 January 2015 05:36 (nine years ago) link
Interesting stuff
― curmudgeon, Friday, 2 January 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
RIP Percy Sledge. There's a separate thread on his passing
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
Hadn't seen this before, great stuff. Ye olde Southern Rock thread has some relevant bits as well (ditto the Big Star thread, occasionally). So far, I'm digging the way Alabama Shakes are finding self-expression in reconfigurations of sounds usually confined to nostalgia these days: like the mix is the remix, but no turntables etc., far as I can tell.http://www.npr.org/2015/04/12/398068310/first-listen-alabama-shakes-sound-color
― dow, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link
Have not been a fan of the Shakes so far, while the singer's voice can be impressive, other times she is too Janis Joplin like. The band's playing I like even less. Have not heard their new one yet, though.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 04:51 (nine years ago) link
That link leads to the new album, Sound and Color, which I got into a lot faster than the debut full-length (liked the EP before that right away). I think they re-work/respond to their influences in a pretty creative way.
― dow, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 13:13 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah, do yall know Beale Street Caravan? Weekly sets, from clubs, concerts, festivals, even cruises sometimes. Pretty good range of artists and styles, usually blues and vintage R&B. Another young band making good use of classic influences, whom I think of as soul-rock (horns and arrangements def soul, guitar and vocals can be more impulsive, keys--!): Birmingham's St. Paul and the Broken Bones. good at Coachella, even better here: http://bealestreetcaravan.com/listen/shows/2015-04-08Shows can be streamed or downloaded, usually.
― dow, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 13:26 (nine years ago) link
They got a sweet set by Allen Toussaint too!http://bealestreetcaravan.com/listen/shows/2012-01-18
― dow, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 13:36 (nine years ago) link
American Routes also post shows, 2 hours weekly. Unlike Beale Street Caravan, AR's mostly from records (with an original interview in each hour). The Original Pinettes Brass Band are a find: immediately engaging sound of young female players, who have a lot of dayjob and family obligations, but they've really gotten it together. The following playlist gives the title of the track, then the album (the latter italicized in AR's original post).
Can stream or (if have Firefox's FlashGot, maybe other apps elsewhere) download: http://americanroutes.wwno.org/archives/show/895/soul-sisters
Hour One
Open Bed: Soul Sister Yusek Lateef1984, ImpulseI Can't Stand It The Soul SistersThe Sue Story: The Sound of Soul, New York City, ParlophoneI'm a Woman Peggy LeeThe Best of Miss Peggy Lee, CapitolSally Go Round the Roses The JaynettsChess Rhythm & Roll, MCA/ ChessSEGMENT Justine "Baby" WashingtonListenWorkout Baby Washington45rpm, NeptuneClean Up Woman Betty WrightBest of Betty Wright, RhinoInstrumental: The Soul Explosion Illinois JackquetThe Soul Explosion, PrestigeReconsider Me Margaret LewisShreveport Stomp: Ram Records Volume 1, AceWhy Not Me The JuddsWhy Not Me, RCASoul Deep Tina TurnerCountry My Way, K-telFive Long Years Tina TurnerBold Soul Sister: Best of the Blue Thumb Recordings , Blue ThumbTramp Otis Redding and Carla ThomasThe Complete Stax Volt Singles 1959-1968, Stax/ VoltInstrumental: Soul Twist King Curtis & The Noble KnightsRock Instrumental Classics, Vol.4: Soul, RhinoSEGMENT Maxine BrownListenSoul Serenade Maxine BrownGreatest Hits, TomatoAngel from Montgomery Bonnie RaittStreetlights, Warner Bros.Far Celestial Shore Mavis StaplesOne True Vine, AntiEnd Bed: Soul Serenade Willie MitchellHot Rods Rock: Big Boss Instrumentals Vol. 3, Right Stuff
Hour 2
Open Bed: All For You The Funk BrothersThe Best of the Funk Brothers, MotownGo To The Mardi Gras The Original PinettesFinally, self-producedMary Mack Lilly's Chapel School, recorded by Harold CourlanderNegro Folk Music of Alabama, Vol.6: Ring Game Songs and Others, FolkwaysSpirit in the Dark Aretha FranklinSpirit in the Dark, RhinoSoul Sister Allen ToussaintThe Complete Warner Recordings, RhinoSEGMENT Chris ClarkListenInstrumental: Whitey LambchopNashville: The Other Side of the Alley, BloodshotThese Boots are Made for Walking Loretta LynnHonky Tonk Girl, MCAI'm a Honky Tonk Girl Eilen JewellEilen Jewell Presents Butcher Holler, Signature SoundsBlues a Catin Bonsoir CatinBlues a Catin, BridgetownDown on Me Big Brother & The Holding Company featuring Janis JoplinBig Brother & The Holding Company, SonyYou'll Lose a Good Thing Barbara LynnYou'll Lose a Good Thing, Jaime/ ArcticCareless Love Dr. Michael White with Cynthia GirtleyAdventures in New Orleans Jazz, Part I, Basin StreetInstrumental: One Naughty Flat AFO ExecutivesCompendium, AFOSEGMENT The Original Pinettes Brass BandListen
― dow, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 14:24 (nine years ago) link
Oh nice---Concord's Stax/Volt series continues (would also like to check new McCrary Sisters release at end of this column: they were compelling in recent public media fundraise--joined by Lee Ann Womack, even---and on archived Music City Roots livestream [show re Nashville's soul side history] w Fairfield Four, one of whom is their Dad) http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/music/20150416_Stax_leads_a_pack_of_strong_roots_releases.html
― dow, Thursday, 16 April 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link
Some interesting discussion on the Yahoo southern soul email digest re who worked with Percy Sledge in the early days and where-Sheffield or Florence, Al vs Muscle Shoals ( and with Marlin Greene, later Malaco label heads Tommy Couch and Mitchell Malouf, Jimmy Johnson), and other great songs of his-- "Out Of Left Field", "Cover Me" and "It Tears Me Up".
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 April 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/03/-country-soul-by-charles-hughes-review.html
I heard Charles Hughes speak at an EMP conference in New Orleans a few years back. I was impressed. I rarely read Paste, but this was one of the first reviews of the book that I have seen.
Country Soul, a brilliant new exploration of the racial politics of the southern music recording scene from the early 1960s to the early 1980s, paints a less black-and-white picture than Sweet Soul Music or any other book on southern music that’s come before it.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:36 (nine years ago) link
http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/author-charles-l-hughes-takes-a-swing-at-conventional-wisdom-about-country-soul-and-race/Content?oid=5228976
― curmudgeon, Friday, 26 June 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
I need to get and read that book
― curmudgeon, Monday, 29 June 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link
paints a less black-and-white picture...
o rly?
― wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 June 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link
Another set from xpost Beale Street Caravan: The City Champs, veteran back-up for Rufus Thomas, Alex Chilton, Otis Clay, many others, and one of 'em's currently in St. Paul and The Broken Bones (whose own BSC show is posted upthread).But this is not just the typical result of support aces left to their own jammy, foggy notions:http://bealestreetcaravan.com/listen/shows/2015-01-14
― dow, Monday, 29 June 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/457263-muscle-shoals-to-become-johnny-depp-produced-series
Johnny Depp wants to produce a scripted series based on the events/people in the Muscle Shoals doc. I...don't know about this.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
idk, seems like a cool project? he seems like a p thoughtful dude in interviews, even if his movies are annoying
i mean unless he makes everyone wear thirty scarves & dumb hats who cares if he's just producing it
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link
i imagine it'll be like "tremé" just in alabama
in other words, boring as fuck
― wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
Duck Dunn DeMarco
Oh wait
― How I Wrote Matchstick Men (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2015 01:38 (nine years ago) link
Will it just focus on uh, Depp as Rick Hall, and not have Jamie Foxx as Arthur Alexander and I dunno, Chiwetal Ejiofor as Percy Sledge, and Beyonce as Candi Staton
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 July 2015 14:37 (nine years ago) link
Beyonce already played Etta James...
― Number None, Thursday, 9 July 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link
I know
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link
Might create problems down the line if they want to do a crossover with the Cadillac Records universe
― Number None, Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
Ha ha
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:27 (nine years ago) link
Just read a little of the Charles L. Hughes book curmudgeon mentioned. So far, so good. Seems like the guy knows what he is talking about, has carefully read the existing literature and can write and think clearly about the seemingly contradictory complications that have been glossed over in what has become the official narrative up until now without the "the Aha, you are RONG!" moments capsizing his argument.
― Askeladden Sane (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 July 2015 06:13 (nine years ago) link
Okay, just finished. Both of you guys should read.
― Crawling From The Blecchage (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 July 2015 11:42 (nine years ago) link