Hey dere centurionprix!
I see you 9th from the bottom on the "idiosyncrasy" rating, and me 4th from the bottom, clearly it was our failure to strategize that kept Kpop out of the top 77 , for shame.
Top 200 Kpop are:
I Got a Boy #110 Doom Dada #119 Gone Not Around Any Longer #154 Had Enough Parties #160 Bar Bar Bar #168 Rum Pum Pum Pum #173 Airplane #177
And honorable mention:
The Fox #210
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 23 January 2014 22:04 (ten years ago) link
And NS Yoon-G yes good very nice.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 23 January 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link
No kpop in the ilx top 77 for the first time in years. We failed, folks, need to rally next time.
― abcfsk, Friday, January 24, 2014 4:33 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark
Haha I think the fact that we *tried* to rally meant that we were doomed to fail
Rushed my ballot, probably should have given DADA a top 10 vote, haven't checked the ballot to see if that would have made a difference
― 龜, Friday, 24 January 2014 07:16 (ten years ago) link
Love the 4MINUTE song but the title makes me uncomfortable :\
― 龜, Friday, 24 January 2014 07:17 (ten years ago) link
i kinda just went for my actual fave songs rather than try to represent k-pop on the 77 :(that said, bar bar bar bar & smoky girl made my ballot
― nathey, Friday, 24 January 2014 10:28 (ten years ago) link
Closest K-Pop was "I Got a Boy" which would have made it with an additional #6 vote.
― a man with legs made of sausages - that's not real! (seandalai), Friday, 24 January 2014 13:30 (ten years ago) link
I left Doom Dada off too... if we'd both voted it would have made it, 龜.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 24 January 2014 15:39 (ten years ago) link
:(
― 龜, Saturday, 25 January 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/HvthNqG.png
― 龜, Saturday, 25 January 2014 04:04 (ten years ago) link
Haha.
Winner's cover of Missing You makes me wonder whether KSY (with the guitar) helped write the song.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 25 January 2014 06:29 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSAVsstaj4E
Oh man, Ga-In, I don't know how to respond to this MV.
I wish the song was better though, starts off kinda promisingly but doesn't quite go anywhere. Might have been better as a solo track.
― Roz, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link
Wasn't there another BEG member who did a "Fuck You" style song?
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link
I think I'm thinking of Miryo - Dirty, but I'm on a work computer so I can't check.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:31 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, "Dirty" has the phrase, though censored. "Amazinger" has an implied motherfucker. There's also Tymee:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BHbjpHPvnM
Tymee also had an excellent and moody single late last year:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv-e7tM4G1E
Speaking of which, Miryo and Narsha's sub-unit is going to have a hip-hop concept, which is brilliant. Miryo gets to show off on some proper rap tracks, and I can't even begin to imagine what Narsha is going to do.
― centurionofprix, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:22 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/3SmvkuN.gif
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 00:15 (ten years ago) link
Aw man just watched the MV and feel bad for posting this GIF
Tough stuff
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:19 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I just got to watch it too. Wooooow.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 06:00 (ten years ago) link
It's like the anti Do What U Want.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 06:02 (ten years ago) link
It's a strange topic/collection of feelings to frame in a pop song.
that's as far as I seem to get.
― centurionofprix, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 06:14 (ten years ago) link
Well, the themes are kind of old, as far as the guy being forceful and the girl being "wait no slow down". I like to think that they are already in a relationship and she's tired of being treated like a sex toy and looking for space to breathe so she can regain interest, but he's hooked and won't back off, because that's an interesting angle to take.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 14:50 (ten years ago) link
Two cutesy rookie songs in the new year
The really good one from OH!nle http://youtu.be/LQbPzG--WQ4
The really cutesy (and pretty good if a bit tacky) one http://youtu.be/BSIogAdk_is
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 10:51 (ten years ago) link
Going to SK for the LNY :D
― 龜, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:43 (ten years ago) link
Re: Grade Seven Class One, it upsets me that their Oppas are all so much older than them :(
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 17:05 (ten years ago) link
I see OH!nle don't have that problem, though...
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 17:10 (ten years ago) link
BTW this is from last year, but Blady - Type B Girl could use some love: http://youtu.be/J6YicUmV0tE
Also find myself liking BIGSTAR - Standing Alone more as time passes: http://youtu.be/FXJwOqQK_oM
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 19:47 (ten years ago) link
Sorry for being so boring about the sexualization of young girls stuff, normally I would be more chill but I'm teaching in a middle school right now
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 30 January 2014 01:21 (ten years ago) link
With "Fxxk U", it's not so much the theme as the sensibility that seems strange for a pop song. Between the clammy and insistent unpleasantness of the words (on both sides) and of the vocal dissonance and the headachily stumbling beat, it purposely repels rather than hooks in order to get the mood across. This could be cool, but the song does not seem to amount to anything very coherent as artistic expression outside of the pop song mode which it refuses, either. Taken in isolation from the video, I'd read the text as being about Gain's lack of interest because her partner isn't passionate enough, until the dynamic flips on its axis for the duration of the bridge ("Can someone tell me when / It's a difficult question / I'm afraid of this person") and returns to normalcy for the last chorus with Gain uninterested/inconvenienced/annoyed with his advances ("there's still not enough / want in your eyes"). Together with the video I've no idea what to make of it except for a general sense of tension and vertigo, and that Gain is kinda confused and scared by the relationship.
Who cares about my opinion though, the song's doing well enough on the charts. Maybe it isn't as unpleasant musically as it seems to me, or it is unpleasant but everyone else aren't such wimps and can dig it.
― centurionofprix, Monday, 3 February 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link
Louie: "(The Mother Fucking) Twilight"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWB-AoZi37A
― centurionofprix, Monday, 3 February 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link
There's also a new SPICA song, "You Don't Love Me", composed by Lee Hyori:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc1RwpRfbT0I wonder if Hyori is trying to remake them in her image and as her artistic vehicle, only with the vocal prowess she never had. And maybe because she's getting older and married herself. If so, I'm fine with this fate for Spica. The song's good, funny MV too.
― centurionofprix, Monday, 3 February 2014 16:27 (ten years ago) link
The best part about "Twilight" is how he plays it absolutely dead fxxking straight. Also really like the classy "dementia patients" diss.
― centurionofprix, Monday, 3 February 2014 16:31 (ten years ago) link
Fxxk You seems to me like it's getting at a specific kind of dynamic, where the (more experienced) girl doesn't want to have mediocre sex all the time - she wants there to be a bit more tension and build-up. But the guy just wants to do it as often as possible. To me it seems like a quantity vs. quality argument.
Will listen to the other two when I get home, for now though I just want to say that I'm really looking forward to BAP's comeback! All the snippets of the song that're out sound good.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 3 February 2014 20:52 (ten years ago) link
While we wait for GLAM to return, here's Lip Service:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z41qIK7-s4k
The description says it's 90s-hip-hop- and trap- based, with 808 drum beats, about wanting to eat but being on a diet. Their other single off the album is supposed to be social commentary too.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 06:08 (ten years ago) link
I wonder if they know about the TV show Lip Service, which is 'The L Word' set in Scotland.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 06:09 (ten years ago) link
You Don't Love Me is nice! It really is Lee Hyorish yeah...
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 06:15 (ten years ago) link
Lip Service is great. Respect for the tonkatsu love.
― abcfsk, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 08:00 (ten years ago) link
hahaha, "Yum Yum Yum" is amazing.
― centurionofprix, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 21:07 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH1V5WLNKc8
Quoting from the description,"A total of 15 korean artists are in this project :산이(San E), 타이미(Tymee), 뉴챔프(New Champ)MC META, 나찰(Naachal), 제리케이(Jerry K)JJK, 와디(Wadi), 팻두(Fatdoo)면(Garion), Huckleberry P, Jolly V사무엘(Samuel), 슬릭(Sleeq), 자라(Zara)".
― centurionofprix, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link
A clip of Hyori directing Gain's new song. Hyori is become pretty prolific as a composer and the songs are good; besides the above, "YDLM" and her own "Miss Korea", she also wrote the dusky "내가 미친년이야" for Spica's Kim Bohyung last year.
For any Korean speakers among us, Puer Kim has been holding a witch council via webcam, occasionally broadcast live on the Mystic89 channel. I think you can ask her questions via the form in the video description.
― centurionofprix, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:08 (ten years ago) link
Aha! It's every Tuesday and Thursday 22:00 KST. (sorry about the spam guys!!)
― centurionofprix, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 03:19 (ten years ago) link
Let It Go covers all over the place! So far the best of 'em seems to be - not Hyolyn or Ailee - but Dia (Kiss&Cry) on Show Champion.
Some nonstandard girl group stuff: GLAM return with mediocre Valentine's Day singlePungdeng-E go cutesy for official debutAnother very decent single from Lip Service, who are a duo! I didn't realize from Yum Yum Yum that they weren't a group. Interesting comeback strategy from GPBasic in the vein of N.O.M. and SHinee's military-sexy getups last year. What I want to know is, who's the audience for this?
And some slick-sexy guys to go with the sexy-sexy girls: Eunhyuk and Donghae (Super Junior) - Motorcycle Speaking of duos. I thought their other Japanese stuff was good but forgettable, but this... is something else, woooow. WHERE IS THE REST OF THE VIDEO AVEX??! I need it!Lee Minwoo - Taxi This Certified Jam Brought to You by the Color Orange. Gary (LeSSang) - Shower Later for fans of Benny Bernassi's Satisfaction.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 6 February 2014 04:37 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anrh6iSKCNQ
I'm kind of taken by Puer Kim calling her online fanmeets "witch councils", that's awesome XD
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 6 February 2014 04:43 (ten years ago) link
the Bbax3 rock cover you didn't know you needed
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 6 February 2014 06:21 (ten years ago) link
BAP's latest comes pre-ready for export to Japan (and it's good):
Shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGolQ9LzbkY
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 8 February 2014 10:03 (ten years ago) link
The part after the bridge is weird actually, but it wouldn't be a BAP song without a bizarre change in style/tempo or two, I guess.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 8 February 2014 10:07 (ten years ago) link
The Louie upthread sounds like he listened to 'Same Damn Time' right before making it
― 龜, Sunday, 9 February 2014 02:26 (ten years ago) link
Er maybe there are more accurate references but it's very much of the orchestral bombastic rap trend of the last 1-2 years
― 龜, Sunday, 9 February 2014 02:27 (ten years ago) link
Also I was in Korea over LNY and unfortunately the closest I got to looking at K-pop stuff was a bookstore at the airport on the way out that seemed to be exclusively SM (filled almost entirely with EXO & SHINee merch on the boy's side, Girl's Gen & some other female group on the girl's side)
Looked longingly at a few SMTown buildings from our tour bus
― 龜, Sunday, 9 February 2014 03:18 (ten years ago) link
Favorite heard-in-a-department-store discoveries are these two, one from 2012 and one from 1999 (!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PehZMcA7duY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzCd8Z1VPGY
― 龜, Sunday, 9 February 2014 03:47 (ten years ago) link
I guess the "Twilight" sound comes from trap, although I'm not very up to fashion in hip hop genres. BTS's "No" had a similar thing going recently.
There's something very adorably badass about Puer Kim.
Spica's skilled Kim Bo Hyung joined in the "Let It Go" madness but, alas, her senior Miryo had already pretty much flayed the song and the competition. Brave effort from our promising young vocalist in the Miryo Queen's aftermath, however.
― centurionofprix, Sunday, 9 February 2014 07:31 (ten years ago) link
Yea I don't know, I kind of wanna ask him... I'll just fb message him I guess. That EG mix was kind of a while ago so it's up in the air as if that had a direct influence on it. Like, if you look at the lists he made for Boomkat in 2012 and 2013, it's clear that this year's is the first that's pop-oriented. He also wrote a huge thing about the new LDR album for Electronic Beats earlier this year.
― misterjoshua, Friday, 19 December 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
He replied, he said he had heard the mix and liked it but "actually loved it from long before as for (him) it represented the true spiritual successor to Italo and 70s disco".
― misterjoshua, Saturday, 20 December 2014 06:19 (nine years ago) link
cool
― james brooks, Saturday, 20 December 2014 08:10 (nine years ago) link
'Tis the season for silly costumes, ft. SISTAR, BTOB and 2am.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 21 December 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link
Also the season for year-end shows! Here's SBS Gayo Daejun
Xposted comment:
Really liked the remixes for "Something" and "Sugar Free", maybe even more than the original songs! Also really like 4minute's "remix" that was actually a completely different song.
AOA's intro with the moving sidewalk was cool, also Orange Caramel's Xmas tree outfits, though I with they'd changed the songs up a little more.
Taeyang was off his game but GD was back on. Can there only be one???
They gave the "Award" to EXO but Seo Taiji performed last, says it all really... pretty canny of him to put a Xmas/Halloween song on it so he could be seasonally appropriate twice.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 22 December 2014 06:28 (nine years ago) link
hey james, do you still listen to k-pop?
STJ's "Christmalo" was the one stage that night that wasn't a complete waste of time. korea still needs him.
― soyrev, Monday, 22 December 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
No love for the Xmas tree dresses, soyrev?
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link
KBS Gayo Daejun: boring overall, but VIXX were good for a laff and Block B's cross-dressed HER was legitimately great.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 27 December 2014 06:32 (nine years ago) link
Was also pleasantly surprised by Dongwoo's singing (on a song in his range) and Hyungseung's rapping (on "Loyal"), but my expectations were very low.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 27 December 2014 06:37 (nine years ago) link
i have a new project called the K-Pendium, wherein i attempt to trace the entire history of korean popular music from 1926 through the present, via a series of individual song essays.
here is the first post, about "Gee" by SNSD: http://www.k-pendium.com/001/here is some context re: my motivations etc: http://www.k-pendium.com/info/
please spread it around if you like it!
― soyrev, Sunday, 28 December 2014 00:48 (nine years ago) link
Ask a Korean was doing a similar project, though his was very rockist. Have you seen it?
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 29 December 2014 05:46 (nine years ago) link
http://askakorean.blogspot.com/1998/02/50-most-influential-k-pop-artists.html
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 29 December 2014 05:52 (nine years ago) link
Music Core's year-end show is a nice collection of groups with strong live performances... add Orange Caramel, 4minute, EXID, f(x) and TOPP DOGG and it comes pretty close to matching the list of idol music show performances I personally enjoyed the most this year.
Infinite's Back remix and Teen Top's Missing remix were highlights I think, alongside Block B (as always).
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 29 December 2014 07:53 (nine years ago) link
yes, have read some of his stuff and will definitely continue to now that i'm in korea and actually have a chance of getting my hands on a lot of this music. his will be a crucial resource for my own project.
i think we differ a bit in audience and intent, not to mention format – but AAK's knowledge and expertise re: korean pop history is definitely an aspiration of mine!
― soyrev, Monday, 29 December 2014 11:17 (nine years ago) link
That's a weird list.
― abcfsk, Monday, 29 December 2014 12:49 (nine years ago) link
speaking of, here's my top 20 k-pop songs of 2014, for vice/noisey:
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/the-20-best-k-pop-songs-of-2014
― soyrev, Monday, 29 December 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link
Which one's weird, mine or AAK's?
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 03:38 (nine years ago) link
switch it up: K-pop (2015)
― soyrev, Thursday, 1 January 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
Looks like I can retire - soyrev's on it!
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 2 January 2015 04:00 (nine years ago) link
BTW I thought MBCGayo picked up a little steam toward the end - or at least TVVQ "Something" was the perfect song to end on. 2012 is still the Gayo year to beat though.
Somewhat of interest: SISTAR and Ailee and Taemin turned in good performances, Zion.T was blowing everyone else on his stage away, EXO sang both Thunder and Overdose LIVE and sounded good, the Zico/CNBlue collaboration stage was a hilarious mess, SNSD's MR MR remix was decent.
More seriously of interest: I wish B1A4 would stop messing with Lonely because that song doesn't need a remix. The swelling-orchestral-strings version of "Solo Day" was actually good though, in a Brian Wilson masterwork kind of way.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 2 January 2015 04:16 (nine years ago) link
http://youtu.be/WrSgz63g-Ko
Skip to the end for B1A4 "Solo Day" (orchestra ver).
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 2 January 2015 04:18 (nine years ago) link
And to round out 2014:
Boy Group Debuts http://youtu.be/0ZBsXkbSp0Q
Girl Group Debuts http://youtu.be/u7Lsxskse_Y
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 2 January 2015 04:41 (nine years ago) link