Worst/most cringeworthy lyric on Oasis' 'Be Here Now'

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It did sell well (1.8 million in total) but it sold over half its sales in those first two weeks. Think by the time the third single had come out it pretty much stopped selling completely. Morning Glory had sold over 4 million by that point so it really was a disappointment for the record company. Just looking at Wikipedia I'm kind of surprised to see it has still sold more copies than Definitely Maybe. Also surprised to see Dig out Your Soul is their worst selling album overall. Always assumed it was SOTSOG.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 25 January 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link

and not once between then and the album coming out (all throughout the writing and recording and putting the album together) did someone step in and say "uh, guys, this actually isn't very good!" or "you may wanna fix these lyrics up" or "you may wanna shave a few guitar tracks off the final mix" or "Noel, it would be a really bad idea to make the songs go on for this long"...

― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Saturday, January 25, 2014 2:19 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's this bit from some old Melody Maker review that floats through my head where the writer is talking about the song 'Round Are Way' and the fact that no-one in the entire chain, from the band in the studio to the people printing the record sleeves, had it in them to tell Noel that he was spelling the word 'our' wrong

wilful brony (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 25 January 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link

dig your own soul is far and away the worst album title and I hate to think what it might contain

OutdoorFish, Saturday, 25 January 2014 17:17 (ten years ago) link

You know that thread recently where the musicians playing on the album were saying "We didn't know it was bad when we were working on Bowie's "Never let me down"

Same thing. Everyone's hyped up on these Oasis sounding songs, the trees and the woods can't be seen..

Thing is, around half of "Be here now" is alright, half of what's left is curate's egg stuff, and a bunch of stuff isn't good at all..

Mark G, Saturday, 25 January 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link

xpost Dig yr own soul isn't so bad.

Mark G, Saturday, 25 January 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link

The Be Here Now era was just fascinating.

yes, the story of money in the culture industry, how fascinating. also produces fascinating threads with lists of hundreds of difft shades of nostalgia pills and the same ancient brit dudes blathering on about said pills. nothing could be more fascinating.

just (Matt P), Saturday, 25 January 2014 17:31 (ten years ago) link

at least turrican's exhuming of interviews is cringeworthy entertainment for a few lines.

but seriously, there are like 1.999 x 10^99 more interesting topics than oasis and 1.998 x 10^99 more interesting topics than britpoop.

just (Matt P), Saturday, 25 January 2014 17:35 (ten years ago) link

the shrill as fuck treble-y production on BHN is what kills it. you can squint and imagine I Hope I Think I Know and My Big Mouth easily fitting onto Definitely Maybe if you mess with your bass and 'mid' settings enough.

piscesx, Saturday, 25 January 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link

matt p: shame hardly anyone else seems to be interested in them (i deny the existence of britpop btw)

OutdoorFish, Saturday, 25 January 2014 17:43 (ten years ago) link

see now this is why we can't have crap things

chekhprivan (wins), Saturday, 25 January 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link

;_;

just (Matt P), Saturday, 25 January 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link

standard form from matt p there

John Fitzgerald Chicken (imago), Saturday, 25 January 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link

This thread has made me want to actually listen to BHN, which I have never done

Simon H., Saturday, 25 January 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link

Worst most moronic Oasis album title

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 25 January 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link

i am listened to the alt mixes of dig out ..

they really should have worked more with richard fearless.

mark e, Saturday, 25 January 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

they really should have worked more with richard fearless.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 25 January 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link

shrill as fuck treble-y production = sounds better to coked-up ears

everyday sheeple (Michael B), Saturday, 25 January 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link

the shrill as fuck treble-y production on BHN is what kills it. you can squint and imagine I Hope I Think I Know and My Big Mouth easily fitting onto Definitely Maybe if you mess with your bass and 'mid' settings enough.

― piscesx, Saturday, January 25, 2014 5:36 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, the trebly production and the insane amount of rhythm guitar overdubs really torpedoes 'My Big Mouth' in particular. I'm sure it sounded absolutely stupendous to the band and Owen Morris while they were making it in the studio, but on most home stereo systems it just sounds like static.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Saturday, 25 January 2014 20:46 (ten years ago) link

In fact, it's curious how Owen Morris never worked with Oasis again after Be Here Now.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Saturday, 25 January 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link

yeah, don't believe the truth is very annoying too as a title (again hate to think what horrors lie within), makes me think of that band thom yorke's brother or cousin was in, the unbelievable truth

OutdoorFish, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:01 (ten years ago) link

I have a friend who pretty much solely listens to Oasis. He claims to like other bands, but I've never heard him play them, not even the Beatles.

The only album we have of theirs beyond Be Here Now is Heathen Chemistry which I have been far too frightened to listen to, based on the reviews I've read.

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link

there really is a lot of oasis fans like that.
see also beatles,u2,elvis, michael jackson etc but oasis ones are the worst now.

۩, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link

like i can understand 60 year olds only listening to beatles 70 year olds with elvis but early 20s or even teenagers only listening to oasis is really depressing

۩, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link

The others (bar maybe U2), I could see making a case for (namely *I* could just about survive solely on any one of those discographies), but Oasis are just your dull meat & potatoes lager-rock. There's not really that much diversity there.

I do like the first two albums a lot though.

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:10 (ten years ago) link

A quick scan of his FB music list shows a lot of artists, mostly British ones from 60s-90s, and a scattering of Americans; James Brown, the Doors and the Beach Boys. Britpop is definitely the guiding musical force in his life though. For context's sake, we were born at the beginning of the 1990s.

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link

the real killer, replete with a sluttish early-70's rock-beast bassline

(strongly considering new DN.....)

my collages, let me show you them (bernard snowy), Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link

btw I very nearly voted Give me just a smile and would you make it snappy/get your shit together girl! before realizing it wasn't "pick yr fav out of these cringeworthy lyrix"

my collages, let me show you them (bernard snowy), Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:20 (ten years ago) link

i like the 1st 2 also (saw them 3 times in the mid 90s) but ...well you know how shite they are since.

Who was that really bad band that came out on noel's vanity label? So bad that even their diehard fans didnt even buy in to them.

۩, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link

my sister was born in 1990, she was lucky to have me as a brother

OutdoorFish, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link

xpost beady eye?

OutdoorFish, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:22 (ten years ago) link

23 Jan 2014
kitchenperson 0.50 stars

^^^lol RYM

John Fitzgerald Chicken (imago), Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link

haha naw, Proud Mary? something like that

۩, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link

The cover of Standing on the Shoulder of Giants is so abominably dated: you can tell it's from 2000 instantly.

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link

23 Jan 2014
kitchenperson 0.50 stars

^^^lol RYM

― John Fitzgerald Chicken (imago)

Ha! I was planning to listen to all their albums one by one (on YouTube so my Lastfm wouldn't be ruined) but I only made it to SOTSWG which got the same rating. I couldn't find a single enjoyable thing about either of these albums. Maybe I'll make it to Heathen Chemistry one day.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:47 (ten years ago) link

Proud Mary are an English blues/rock band from Royton, Oldham, Greater Manchester. The band was discovered by Noel Gallagher, and was the first to sign to the Oasis star's Sour Mash label.[1] which the oasis star had recently formed" to give me something to do on my days off "[2] The band have toured extensively with artists including Neil Young, The Who, David Bowie, Stereophonics, The Black Crowes, Ryan Adams, Paul Weller, Ocean Colour Scene, The Happy Mondays and Oasis to name a few (Proud Mary were the first signings to Noel Gallagher's Sour Mash label and Gallagher produced their first album.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Mary_%28band%29

۩, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link

holy shit theyre still releasing albums

۩, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:49 (ten years ago) link

"Sour Mash" release Noel's albums now.

Mark G, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:52 (ten years ago) link

the chart position for their first album says #9, but when you go to that album's page, it's revealed that that is on the indie chart...not nearly as impressive.

dare I ask what they sound like?

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:53 (ten years ago) link

shite

۩, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:54 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp_iq64WSsI

۩, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link

pretty sure you dont need to hear them to know what they sound like

۩, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link

The cover of Standing on the Shoulder of Giants is so abominably dated: you can tell it's from 2000 instantly.

― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:43 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It didn't look all that fantastic at the time, either. This was the period where Oasis changed their logo and stopped working with Brian Cannon and Microdot to do their artwork (I've always been a fan of Microdot sleeves), and I have absolutely no idea why. I can only assume it's because Bonehead and Guigsy had left and they wanted to "re-establish" the Oasis brand. It fucked up the continuity between releases in a visual sense, in my opinion.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Saturday, 25 January 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link

Strangely, I dug out Definitely Maybe earlier on today found myself enjoying it a lot. I think there's still room for 1994-1996 era Oasis, providing one doesn't make it the staple of their musical diet and proclaims it "the best rock'n'roll the world has ever heard", or whatever. Because of course it's not, but those early albums are still quite enjoyable I think.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Saturday, 25 January 2014 22:10 (ten years ago) link

I completely, Turrican, I'm by no means Oasis' biggest fan, but Definitely Maybe is a brilliant 90s Brit-rock album. Whatever Noel was on, he was delivering killer riff after killer riff. Must have sold his soul to the devil, but that deal dried up quickly.

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Saturday, 25 January 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link

But the thought of calling it the best album of all time is a really depressing mindset to have imo.

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Saturday, 25 January 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link

So dont go away, say what you say, say that you'll stay, forever and a day

Because I like the song otherwise and I agree -- these could be much better lyrics

LimbsKing, Saturday, 25 January 2014 23:18 (ten years ago) link

"i hope i think i know" is a really good song.
i actually like "dya know what i mean" as well, wish there was a dubbed out UNKLE remix of it or something.

brimstead, Saturday, 25 January 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link

that big beat instrumental that was in "snatch" was pretty cool. i think that's from "standing on the shoulders of giants". $#5!^$ in te bushes

brimstead, Saturday, 25 January 2014 23:32 (ten years ago) link

yeah, the people who say there are maybe 3 tracks worth plucking from BHN are right - would happily slot a couple of them onto Morning Glory replacing some of the weaker songs. But there is really never any reason to sit down and listen to it as an "album."

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 25 January 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link

but which 3?

dya know what i mean, fade in-out, be here now wd be my best guess, maybe magic pie for its sheer grandiose stupidity

John Fitzgerald Chicken (imago), Saturday, 25 January 2014 23:57 (ten years ago) link


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