Worst/most cringeworthy lyric on Oasis' 'Be Here Now'

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"Sour Mash" release Noel's albums now.

Mark G, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:52 (ten years ago) link

the chart position for their first album says #9, but when you go to that album's page, it's revealed that that is on the indie chart...not nearly as impressive.

dare I ask what they sound like?

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:53 (ten years ago) link

shite

۩, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:54 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp_iq64WSsI

۩, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link

pretty sure you dont need to hear them to know what they sound like

۩, Saturday, 25 January 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link

The cover of Standing on the Shoulder of Giants is so abominably dated: you can tell it's from 2000 instantly.

― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:43 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It didn't look all that fantastic at the time, either. This was the period where Oasis changed their logo and stopped working with Brian Cannon and Microdot to do their artwork (I've always been a fan of Microdot sleeves), and I have absolutely no idea why. I can only assume it's because Bonehead and Guigsy had left and they wanted to "re-establish" the Oasis brand. It fucked up the continuity between releases in a visual sense, in my opinion.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Saturday, 25 January 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link

Strangely, I dug out Definitely Maybe earlier on today found myself enjoying it a lot. I think there's still room for 1994-1996 era Oasis, providing one doesn't make it the staple of their musical diet and proclaims it "the best rock'n'roll the world has ever heard", or whatever. Because of course it's not, but those early albums are still quite enjoyable I think.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Saturday, 25 January 2014 22:10 (ten years ago) link

I completely, Turrican, I'm by no means Oasis' biggest fan, but Definitely Maybe is a brilliant 90s Brit-rock album. Whatever Noel was on, he was delivering killer riff after killer riff. Must have sold his soul to the devil, but that deal dried up quickly.

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Saturday, 25 January 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link

But the thought of calling it the best album of all time is a really depressing mindset to have imo.

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Saturday, 25 January 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link

So dont go away, say what you say, say that you'll stay, forever and a day

Because I like the song otherwise and I agree -- these could be much better lyrics

LimbsKing, Saturday, 25 January 2014 23:18 (ten years ago) link

"i hope i think i know" is a really good song.
i actually like "dya know what i mean" as well, wish there was a dubbed out UNKLE remix of it or something.

brimstead, Saturday, 25 January 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link

that big beat instrumental that was in "snatch" was pretty cool. i think that's from "standing on the shoulders of giants". $#5!^$ in te bushes

brimstead, Saturday, 25 January 2014 23:32 (ten years ago) link

yeah, the people who say there are maybe 3 tracks worth plucking from BHN are right - would happily slot a couple of them onto Morning Glory replacing some of the weaker songs. But there is really never any reason to sit down and listen to it as an "album."

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 25 January 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link

but which 3?

dya know what i mean, fade in-out, be here now wd be my best guess, maybe magic pie for its sheer grandiose stupidity

John Fitzgerald Chicken (imago), Saturday, 25 January 2014 23:57 (ten years ago) link

there is no such thing as a best album of all time, lots of fun discussing it, but a totally absurd concept

OutdoorFish, Saturday, 25 January 2014 23:58 (ten years ago) link

which is why it should really be called favourite albums of all time. (as long as people do pick faves and aren't compelled to pick what the canon says is best)

But these lists/polls can be useful for finding out about a lot of music, especially when you're younger.

۩, Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link

but you all would agree that if mad professor released "be here now in dub" it would be the best album of all time, right?

brimstead, Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:07 (ten years ago) link

would it be as boring as ekko dek?

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:11 (ten years ago) link

i had the massive attack one

۩, Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:13 (ten years ago) link

sorry got carried away with the Ks there

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:14 (ten years ago) link

magic dub, do you know what I dub, all around the dub

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link

it's getting better (dub!)

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 26 January 2014 00:19 (ten years ago) link

'My Big Dub'

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Sunday, 26 January 2014 01:38 (ten years ago) link

dubbing in the bushes

۩, Sunday, 26 January 2014 01:49 (ten years ago) link

he was delivering killer riff after killer riff.

Sorry, someone needs to listen to more heavy metal.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 26 January 2014 02:57 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, that sounded well snarky. I am drunk.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 26 January 2014 03:07 (ten years ago) link

Riffs can be soft, man, take a look at future games

brimstead, Sunday, 26 January 2014 03:10 (ten years ago) link

no worries, I'm not really that into heavy metal. perhaps riffs is the wrong word, but they are good songs either way, to me that is.

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Sunday, 26 January 2014 03:17 (ten years ago) link

Brimstead otm, this would be a lot better album if it were Future Games by Fleetwood Mac

Ronnie James 乒乓 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 26 January 2014 03:40 (ten years ago) link

"Sitting upside a high chair, the devil's refugee is gonna be blinded by the light that follows me"

This is, of course, helped along with Johnny Depp on slide guitar. Which may send it over the top.

carson dial, Sunday, 26 January 2014 07:38 (ten years ago) link

Oh god, the Johnny Depp thing. I actually keep forgetting about that, but in a weird way the appearance of Johnny Depp on slide guitar for 'Fade In/Out' is quite representative of how insane things had got at this point. Only a couple of years prior, they were a bunch of normal, every day Mancunians holed up in a studio in Wales for a couple of weeks bashing out their second album. Fast forward to the Be Here Now sessions and they're getting Hollywood actors to play slide guitar on a track which opens like it could be Bon Jovi. On one hand, it was kinda like "Fucking hell, you've clearly made it now", but on the other, it was like "There's absolutely no way you guys can wander around saying you're a bunch of normal, everyday folk now. No fucking chance."

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Sunday, 26 January 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link

Is johnny depp a normal bloke?

Mark G, Sunday, 26 January 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link

Well, they'd got Paul Weller to play "guest guitar" (on 'Champagne Supernova') on the previous album, from that to... Johnny Depp!?

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Sunday, 26 January 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link

depp was doing other guest parts around that time. iirc he appeared on totp playing with shane macgowan.

fit and working again, Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link

he also guest starred in the final Fast Show episodes

۩, Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:10 (ten years ago) link

his band played t in the park and a big thing was made about how he took a bus from glasgow to it full of ordinary punters. Which was quite cool actually.

۩, Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:11 (ten years ago) link

I have thoughts

gelatinate mess (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:34 (ten years ago) link

STAND BY ME!

calstars, Monday, 27 January 2014 01:39 (ten years ago) link

but which 3?

erm, depends, I guess, whether we can insert imaginary fantasy edits that get the lengths under control. "I Hope I Think I Know" is maybe the most salvageable as-is, just a peppy little Oasis tune without much going on to it. But all the 7+ minute songs would be immensely improved by being chopped down to 3:30. Bear in mind I haven't listened to this straight through in a long, long time, so I have no idea how a few of these songs even go.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 27 January 2014 01:44 (ten years ago) link

Apologies if this has already been posted but there are some major lols: http://jezebel.com/noel-gallaghers-commentary-on-old-oasis-videos-is-glor-1506990167

"What am I - 'Pigs don't fly, never say die?' That's surely... somebody, why didn't somebody fuckin' stop me at that point?"

"If you need four guys to walk around in slow motion, we were the fuckin'... we were the best at that."

"It just doesn't seem to be going anywhere, I don't know what I was thinking at the time. Particularly if you think of the late, the stuff that's gone bef--- who the fuck are these people?"

Doctor Casino, Monday, 27 January 2014 02:31 (ten years ago) link

yep, discussed on the noel thread already

fit and working again, Monday, 27 January 2014 02:55 (ten years ago) link

Today I walked past a car with a "Noel Gallagher is a Godlike Genius" bumper sticker.

JoeStork, Monday, 27 January 2014 03:38 (ten years ago) link

Has anyone ever done a Be Here Now edit?

PaulTMA, Monday, 27 January 2014 10:39 (ten years ago) link

my favourite bad Oasis lyric is 'Walking slowly down the hall / Faster than a cannonball' which is so ridiculous and stupid I can't work out if it's actually brilliant.

he said, smarmily (dog latin), Monday, 27 January 2014 10:53 (ten years ago) link

Oh god, the Johnny Depp thing. I actually keep forgetting about that, but in a weird way the appearance of Johnny Depp on slide guitar for 'Fade In/Out' is quite representative of how insane things had got at this point. Only a couple of years prior, they were a bunch of normal, every day Mancunians holed up in a studio in Wales for a couple of weeks bashing out their second album. Fast forward to the Be Here Now sessions and they're getting Hollywood actors to play slide guitar on a track which opens like it could be Bon Jovi. On one hand, it was kinda like "Fucking hell, you've clearly made it now", but on the other, it was like "There's absolutely no way you guys can wander around saying you're a bunch of normal, everyday folk now. No fucking chance."

― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Sunday, 26 January 2014 18:26 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol and the weird thing is that Fade In-Out is by a mile the best thing on the album :D

i assume "Little Joey" (imago), Monday, 27 January 2014 10:58 (ten years ago) link

(Well, it and Magic Pie, which as mentioned above is just the most blissfully idiotic thing ever conceived)

i assume "Little Joey" (imago), Monday, 27 January 2014 11:05 (ten years ago) link

thsi thread almost makes me want to listen to bhn because I don't remember most of this songs (I must have heard some parts of the album at the time and god it was boring).

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 January 2014 11:56 (ten years ago) link

yeah Fade In-Out is pretty good. that, My Big Mouth and Don't Go Away are the best tracks i guess. mostly terrible words but nice tunes.

piscesx, Monday, 27 January 2014 12:36 (ten years ago) link

also, considering the terrible rep of Tony McCaroll's drumming, are the drums on this album really any better? i'd say not.

piscesx, Monday, 27 January 2014 12:37 (ten years ago) link

yeah, the people who say there are maybe 3 tracks worth plucking from BHN are right - would happily slot a couple of them onto Morning Glory replacing some of the weaker songs. But there is really never any reason to sit down and listen to it as an "album."

― Doctor Casino, Saturday, January 25, 2014 11:54 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but which 3?

dya know what i mean, fade in-out, be here now wd be my best guess, maybe magic pie for its sheer grandiose stupidity

― John Fitzgerald Chicken (imago), Saturday, January 25, 2014 11:57 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm not really keen on any of those songs, in all honesty. When I first got the album back in '97 really only 'Stand By Me' and 'It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)' struck me as being anywhere near comparable to the tracks and B-sides from the first couple of albums. If I had to push for a third "keeper", I'd probably go for 'I Hope I Think I Know' if we're talking about just the stuff on the album, but if we're including B-sides it would be 'Stay Young' without any hesitation.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 27 January 2014 13:01 (ten years ago) link


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