Worst/most cringeworthy lyric on Oasis' 'Be Here Now'

But the thought of calling it the best album of all time is a really depressing mindset to have imo.

So dont go away, say what you say, say that you'll stay, forever and a day

Because I like the song otherwise and I agree -- these could be much better lyrics

"i hope i think i know" is a really good song.
i actually like "dya know what i mean" as well, wish there was a dubbed out UNKLE remix of it or something.

that big beat instrumental that was in "snatch" was pretty cool. i think that's from "standing on the shoulders of giants". $#5!^$ in te bushes

yeah, the people who say there are maybe 3 tracks worth plucking from BHN are right - would happily slot a couple of them onto Morning Glory replacing some of the weaker songs. But there is really never any reason to sit down and listen to it as an "album."

but which 3?

dya know what i mean, fade in-out, be here now wd be my best guess, maybe magic pie for its sheer grandiose stupidity

there is no such thing as a best album of all time, lots of fun discussing it, but a totally absurd concept

which is why it should really be called favourite albums of all time. (as long as people do pick faves and aren't compelled to pick what the canon says is best)

But these lists/polls can be useful for finding out about a lot of music, especially when you're younger.

but you all would agree that if mad professor released "be here now in dub" it would be the best album of all time, right?

would it be as boring as ekko dek?

i had the massive attack one

sorry got carried away with the Ks there

magic dub, do you know what I dub, all around the dub

it's getting better (dub!)

'My Big Dub'

dubbing in the bushes

he was delivering killer riff after killer riff.

Sorry, someone needs to listen to more heavy metal.

Sorry, that sounded well snarky. I am drunk.

Riffs can be soft, man, take a look at future games

no worries, I'm not really that into heavy metal. perhaps riffs is the wrong word, but they are good songs either way, to me that is.

Brimstead otm, this would be a lot better album if it were Future Games by Fleetwood Mac

"Sitting upside a high chair, the devil's refugee is gonna be blinded by the light that follows me"

This is, of course, helped along with Johnny Depp on slide guitar. Which may send it over the top.

Oh god, the Johnny Depp thing. I actually keep forgetting about that, but in a weird way the appearance of Johnny Depp on slide guitar for 'Fade In/Out' is quite representative of how insane things had got at this point. Only a couple of years prior, they were a bunch of normal, every day Mancunians holed up in a studio in Wales for a couple of weeks bashing out their second album. Fast forward to the Be Here Now sessions and they're getting Hollywood actors to play slide guitar on a track which opens like it could be Bon Jovi. On one hand, it was kinda like "Fucking hell, you've clearly made it now", but on the other, it was like "There's absolutely no way you guys can wander around saying you're a bunch of normal, everyday folk now. No fucking chance."

Is johnny depp a normal bloke?

Well, they'd got Paul Weller to play "guest guitar" (on 'Champagne Supernova') on the previous album, from that to... Johnny Depp!?

depp was doing other guest parts around that time. iirc he appeared on totp playing with shane macgowan.

he also guest starred in the final Fast Show episodes

his band played t in the park and a big thing was made about how he took a bus from glasgow to it full of ordinary punters. Which was quite cool actually.

I have thoughts

STAND BY ME!

but which 3?

erm, depends, I guess, whether we can insert imaginary fantasy edits that get the lengths under control. "I Hope I Think I Know" is maybe the most salvageable as-is, just a peppy little Oasis tune without much going on to it. But all the 7+ minute songs would be immensely improved by being chopped down to 3:30. Bear in mind I haven't listened to this straight through in a long, long time, so I have no idea how a few of these songs even go.

Apologies if this has already been posted but there are some major lols: http://jezebel.com/noel-gallaghers-commentary-on-old-oasis-videos-is-glor-1506990167

"What am I - 'Pigs don't fly, never say die?' That's surely... somebody, why didn't somebody fuckin' stop me at that point?"

"If you need four guys to walk around in slow motion, we were the fuckin'... we were the best at that."

"It just doesn't seem to be going anywhere, I don't know what I was thinking at the time. Particularly if you think of the late, the stuff that's gone bef--- who the fuck are these people?"

yep, discussed on the noel thread already

Today I walked past a car with a "Noel Gallagher is a Godlike Genius" bumper sticker.

Has anyone ever done a Be Here Now edit?

my favourite bad Oasis lyric is 'Walking slowly down the hall / Faster than a cannonball' which is so ridiculous and stupid I can't work out if it's actually brilliant.

Oh god, the Johnny Depp thing. I actually keep forgetting about that, but in a weird way the appearance of Johnny Depp on slide guitar for 'Fade In/Out' is quite representative of how insane things had got at this point. Only a couple of years prior, they were a bunch of normal, every day Mancunians holed up in a studio in Wales for a couple of weeks bashing out their second album. Fast forward to the Be Here Now sessions and they're getting Hollywood actors to play slide guitar on a track which opens like it could be Bon Jovi. On one hand, it was kinda like "Fucking hell, you've clearly made it now", but on the other, it was like "There's absolutely no way you guys can wander around saying you're a bunch of normal, everyday folk now. No fucking chance."

― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Sunday, 26 January 2014 18:26 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol and the weird thing is that Fade In-Out is by a mile the best thing on the album :D

(Well, it and Magic Pie, which as mentioned above is just the most blissfully idiotic thing ever conceived)

thsi thread almost makes me want to listen to bhn because I don't remember most of this songs (I must have heard some parts of the album at the time and god it was boring).

yeah Fade In-Out is pretty good. that, My Big Mouth and Don't Go Away are the best tracks i guess. mostly terrible words but nice tunes.

also, considering the terrible rep of Tony McCaroll's drumming, are the drums on this album really any better? i'd say not.

yeah, the people who say there are maybe 3 tracks worth plucking from BHN are right - would happily slot a couple of them onto Morning Glory replacing some of the weaker songs. But there is really never any reason to sit down and listen to it as an "album."

― Doctor Casino, Saturday, January 25, 2014 11:54 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but which 3?

dya know what i mean, fade in-out, be here now wd be my best guess, maybe magic pie for its sheer grandiose stupidity

― John Fitzgerald Chicken (imago), Saturday, January 25, 2014 11:57 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm not really keen on any of those songs, in all honesty. When I first got the album back in '97 really only 'Stand By Me' and 'It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)' struck me as being anywhere near comparable to the tracks and B-sides from the first couple of albums. If I had to push for a third "keeper", I'd probably go for 'I Hope I Think I Know' if we're talking about just the stuff on the album, but if we're including B-sides it would be 'Stay Young' without any hesitation.

tbh without 'all around the world' the conversation about this album would be slightly different imo, not that it's a (conventionally) good album, or really any sort of laudable achievement (as a document of its time it has merit)

Has anyone ever done a Be Here Now edit?

― PaulTMA, Monday, January 27, 2014 10:39 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A quick Google search suggests that yes, various fans have tried editing these tracks down, but I'm really skeptical that any amount of editing alone would improve some of the tracks on this album. The album needs more than a nip and tuck, it needs re-mixing from scratch and the whole track list and order re-jigging, I think. It's such a mess!

also, considering the terrible rep of Tony McCaroll's drumming, are the drums on this album really any better? i'd say not.

― piscesx, Monday, January 27, 2014 12:37 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Alan White (brother of Steve, drummer for Paul Weller up until fairly recently) is a far more technical drummer than Tony McCarroll could have ever been, and I do prefer his drumming style to McCarroll's. However, I also think that he ran out of ideas fairly quickly... a lot of his fills get pretty samey after a while. I think he did great drumming on Morning Glory and this album, but on Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants and Heathen Chemistry I got the feeling he wasn't really trying so hard.

White was better for the Wonderwall material.

But he has same fuckin groove for every uptempo number, all those ghost notes.

Failed to remember that, although a technically better drummer, some of those basic beats of his predecessor suited the material.

Fuck me, how have people got so much to say about this album? ow can any of you even remember it?

Failed to remember that, although a technically better drummer, some of those basic beats of his predecessor suited the material.

― Master of Treacle, Monday, January 27, 2014 3:33 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I definitely agree. White had a tendency to overplay quite a fair amount when Oasis performed the Definitely Maybe material live and sometimes it was an ill fit. White was better on 'Acquiesce' than McCarroll was, though, in my opinion!

isn't it all better when replaced with a dub beat?

For all the shortcomings of Oasis, White's drumming was always a highlight.