is this album widely considered a masterpiece yet?
― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Sunday, 26 January 2014 07:52 (ten years ago) link
this is the best album of the 2000s. that's an exaggeration, but seriously. I'm going to continue to flog this particular horse until it magically comes back to life.
― Treeship, Friday, 21 March 2014 05:43 (ten years ago) link
which of the three?
― ∞, Friday, 21 March 2014 05:50 (ten years ago) link
congratulations is light years better than either oracular spectacular or the new, self-titled one.
― Treeship, Friday, 21 March 2014 05:51 (ten years ago) link
never got into them. is it different from oracular?
― ∞, Friday, 21 March 2014 05:55 (ten years ago) link
ya. congrats rules. wouldn't say top 20 tho even of the decadetop 50 tho
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 21 March 2014 05:58 (ten years ago) link
it's pretty different than oracular. the song structures are generally looser and there are more surprises. but the main thing that's brilliant about it is the way the band plays with the album's inevitable failure in the wake of oracular spectacular, a fluke hit they would never again live up to. i mean, there are few moments in music journalism more memorable to me than mgmt essentially bracing the new york times for disappointment when they were profiled as part of the promotion for the album. similar sentiments abound in the album: "the hot dog is getting cold / you'll never be as good as the rolling stones." "dead in the water / it's not a paid vacation/... yet all is well if the ticket sells." on one level, this kind of thing is just funny, a way of trolling the whole media cycle they were caught up in. but there are also anxieties about artistic belatedness on display that seem more pointed and serious. "we'll always be a step behind him, he's brian eno."
i guess mgmt had already explored their fatigue at the idea of being pop stars in "time to pretend". "congratulations" takes this further, and in more personal directions. i mean, the closing track -- which is the source of the album's title -- is basically a fuck-you to themselves. they are not convinced that their music has any real value. and yet, they clearly have a ton of fun with the wiccan-psychadelia stuff, like "i found a whistle" which would have blown people away if it had been written in 1968. so that's the other twist. there is a way in which the band's stated ambivalence about their work is liberating and i think, for them, that's the whole point of making fun of the whole idea of the pressure of a sophomore album.... to get some distance from the whole thing. and it works! there are moments that seem pure and fun. but also as a listener i can't shake the uneasiness these guys clearly feel about their whole career. all of this stuff is compelling to me.
― Treeship, Friday, 21 March 2014 06:24 (ten years ago) link
tl;dr this is the definitive album of the era of clickbait journalism because on a literal, lyrical level it is consumed with anxieties about its reception.
― Treeship, Friday, 21 March 2014 06:27 (ten years ago) link
Congratulation to MGMT
― 龜, Friday, 21 March 2014 06:35 (ten years ago) link
@treezy
i'll give it a listen. cheers for the introductory
― ∞, Friday, 21 March 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link
"I Found a Whistle" is def one of their best tracks. "Something's Missing" was another highlight from that record. Love love love the Jackson 5-style outro hook.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 21 March 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link
congratulations to treeship
― Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 March 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link
treeship otm this is a forgotten masterpiece and idk why
― when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 5 February 2015 09:56 (nine years ago) link
i understand the circumstances i guess. first album crossed over, indie world turned on them and didn't pay attention to this record, and none of the songs were hits.
― when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 5 February 2015 09:58 (nine years ago) link
this album is totally top 10 cover art for me
maybe one day i'll listen to it
― don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Thursday, 5 February 2015 10:28 (nine years ago) link
new single. sounds better than anything on the 2013 s/t. bumping this thread because Congratulations is a criminally underrated record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtL5oMyBHPs
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link
i love all their records Congratulations is probably my favorite.
but this song is a little boring
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link
I found the s/t really dull & badly produced... this is at least nice on the ears, warm synths... but I feel that they really were poisoned by the harsh rejection of Congratulations. Such a shame, that record is so so fucking great.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link
yeah "Something's Missing" is all time imo. sort of existing in a glorious psychedelic nexus between Jackson 5 and Pink Floyd. the build up and that final chorus is so beautiful, and the A/B structure of the thing is so perfect.
"I Found a Whistle" has that utopian pop thing going for it but w really cool production and backwards sounds and stuff. a lot of this record feels very "Clouds Taste Metallic". maybe hearkening back to the space gospel of "They Punctured My Yolk". i think they hit this feeling in the first album with "The Youth" (probably my 2nd favorite track from that album after "Weekend Warriors").
the title track is so perfect. it has that sweeping-the-floor feel to it. it is the sound of a champagne bottle popping, hittin' the dusty trail. spare acoustic guitar and drums, with little rainshowers of synths, like tiny digital fireworks. it is so pleasing to listen to. this really scratches that Roxy Music itch, of truly futuristic pop.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 00:09 (seven years ago) link
yeah otm, especially about the title track "sweeping the floor" feel. it's such a beautiful song, an instant classic in a way. all about that descending bass line.
my favorite has always been "Song for Dan Treacy." completely manic and catchy and just fucking fun, those Scooby Doo synths on the chorus. & the thing jolts from section to section and actually gets better. "It's Working" is a great opener, too. "Siberian Breaks" - again, brilliant, and something they'll probably never attempt again because they got slapped for it in 2010.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 00:12 (seven years ago) link
Best album of 2010
― Treeship, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 00:28 (seven years ago) link
"It's Working" is a great opener, too
yes <3 the harpsichord, the slowed down "Be My Baby" bit, dream pop production, all of it. so good!
my favorite has always been "Song for Dan Treacy."
"he made his mind up" is such a killer hook! im amazed at their ability to write these weird kind of askew and wandering melodies that end up actually being super catchy. good lyrics too. i love this band, Treeship OTM
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 00:44 (seven years ago) link
Alien Days from the s/t is as good as anything from Congratulations but otherwise it was really dire
these days I think I would take Congratulations over any Flaming Lips album
― ufo, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 01:45 (seven years ago) link
I'm so happy the tide seems to be turning on the reputation of this album.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 01:49 (seven years ago) link
lol connan mockasin in that video tho
― sunkengarden, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 19:27 (seven years ago) link
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my life has meaning now
― Treeship, Friday, 20 October 2017 23:02 (seven years ago) link
Ah I had totally forgotten this band ! Never listened to Congratulations. I might give it try.
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 21 October 2017 10:03 (seven years ago) link
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 21 October 2017 10:07 (seven years ago) link
new song
MGMT have shared a new song called “When You Die.” Take a listen below, and also check out its corresponding psychedelic music video. MGMT recently shared the visual for their new song “Little Dark Age,” the title track off their forthcoming fourth record. The album is due out in February according to the New Yorker; while its release date and tracklist have yet to be announced, the group have been performing new tracks from the record while on tour. Little Dark Age is the follow-up to the band’s 2013 self-titled LP. Read Pitchfork’s 2013 interview with MGMT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmozGmGoJuw
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link
hmmm i like this song! came up on my release radar and was into it before i even checked to see who it was
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 22:14 (seven years ago) link
there's a brief interview in the new Rolling Stone. describes Congratulations as a "disappointing experimental album" that alienated "fans, critics, and even their record label." apparently they handed the new album in to Columbia last April, and were told it wouldn't come out until this month. they have one more record left on their contract & are eager to not be on a major label. made me kinda sad. the piece says the record is their most poppy since Oracular Spectacular, praise that I don't know how to take. makes me equally excited and nervous. from the end of the piece:
"I would love to just go straight from fucking around in my attic to putting something on YouTube," says VanWyngarden. Goldwasser has an even bolder vision: "Maybe instead of putting out an album, we'll put out an immersive art installation where you go into a house and each room is a different musical landscape. We can enter the David Byrne era of our career."
― flappy bird, Saturday, 3 February 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link
new album is pretty good not my favorite but it will grow on me for sure. feels a lot like the first album at times. lots of 80s style synth pop here w the standard Pink Floyd Lite subject matter. a few tracks remind me of "I Wear My Sunglasses at Night" or something. like the song about looking at your phone is actually really cool. "Me and Michael" is better than "Kids" and probably gonna make them a lot of licensing dough. the song seriously rules. lyrics, chorus, all of it, feels like a lost 80s classic.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link
"When You're Small" bringing heavy "The Wall" vibes
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:51 (six years ago) link
First listen “James” is the one I like the best. Also like the goth vibes in some of these but they usually mess up the landing for me. They have a great idea somewhere inside the songs and sometimes the section transitions are a bit awkward.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:58 (six years ago) link
The opener is very Yellow Magic Orchestra. Sounds great.
― kitchen person, Saturday, 10 February 2018 06:13 (six years ago) link
This is surprisingly great. Can definitely hear Ariel Pink's input.
― triggercut, Saturday, 10 February 2018 06:44 (six years ago) link
Great new album, sounds like a different band other than the vocals. Obviously Congratulations is one of the albums of the decade.
― PaulTMA, Saturday, 10 February 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link
Wow really enjoying this new album. Never been a big fan other than some songs from Congratulations
Really solid, engaging listen. And as stated upthread "Me and Michael" is an all-timer
― bunny slopes, Saturday, 10 February 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link
Man I’ve given these guys so many second chances cause their first was so good, but this might be the last
― calstars, Saturday, 10 February 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link
Me And Michael video is something specialhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTHHeIAYfuU
― PaulTMA, Saturday, 10 February 2018 20:36 (six years ago) link
"Me and Michael" is so good! i listened to it walking home earlier in the rain. masterful. might be one of the best retro 80s synthpop songs of all time. great video too! <3 the Cronenberg phone cases.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 10 February 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link
Also like the goth vibes in some of these but they usually mess up the landing for me
yeah tbh i was expecting more dark synthpop from the marketing. not quite that dark compared to something like Fad Gadget or The Cure or something. for instance the Ariel Pink song just sounds like a regular song but they are singing about death so now it's goth.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 10 February 2018 20:49 (six years ago) link
I love this album. I really didn't see this coming at all!
― kitchen person, Sunday, 11 February 2018 06:09 (six years ago) link
My son is obsessed with this album. It apparently has very high meme value among the teenager set.
― Moodles, Sunday, 11 February 2018 06:15 (six years ago) link
i'm really into this
― kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 11 February 2018 07:33 (six years ago) link
Hey, I haven’t heard the new record yet, but I just wanted to pop in and say that, um, based on the evidence of this thread 2010 ILX was pretty mean and bad.
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Sunday, 11 February 2018 07:37 (six years ago) link
wow, Me and Michael is something!
― niels, Sunday, 11 February 2018 11:50 (six years ago) link
^^
― scoff walker (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 01:10 (six years ago) link
Liked the debut a lot
Loved "Congratulations"
Left totally cold by album 3
Totally stunned by this one. I cannot stop listening to it! If "Me and Michael" isn't my most listened track of 2018, it's gonna be a helluva year.
― Davey D, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 04:16 (six years ago) link
this is exactly how i feel. so i'm very excited to hear this new one in full tonite
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 04:19 (six years ago) link