unless someone else wrote them too
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
you're right, it doesn't add up.
my god. son of a bitch didn't even write the lyrics, did he?
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
Los Lobos wrote most of his best lyrics iirc
― second set all dead boys covers (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
extraordinary artist, ordinary person
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:58 (ten years ago) link
were you at the hyde park show a few years back, DL? where PS kept disappearing from the stage, to be replaced by, say, Jimmy Cliff for a couple of songs? was bizarre.
― the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:58 (ten years ago) link
where are the bodies, simon!?
― tylerw, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:58 (ten years ago) link
he had to leave the stage periodically to steal more music xp
― second set all dead boys covers (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:58 (ten years ago) link
paul simon monster
― Lamp, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link
i bet all that cocaine he did in the 70s wasnt even his
― Lamp, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link
Woody allen wrote the lyrics, simon killed paul
― gelatinate mess (darraghmac), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link
if indeed that is his real name
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for clearing this up guys. Now can someone find me the demo of The Only Living Boy in New York with the real PS lyric? "Fuck off to Mexico and make your fucking movie/You talentless hack/But don't expect me to keep carrying your sorry ass/When you get back."
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:04 (ten years ago) link
"so long frank lloyd wright (i'm about to kill you)"
― tylerw, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link
wait Paul Simon killed John Lennon?
re: Sun City album
EMI Thorne was busy selling riot-control cattle prods to the SA police at the same time they were making money off of the Sun City album. they spun the weapons division off later, but iirc at the time is was still under the same corporate roof. that might not make a difference to the "I just like the music" types, but I always saw that album as a perfect example of well meaning liberal hypocrisy that ends up supporting what it claims to be against.
― sleeve, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link
'go jump off a bridge into troubled waters'
'for emily (although they'll never find her)'
― gelatinate mess (darraghmac), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:07 (ten years ago) link
xp That's not hypocrisy unless you think the weapons division approved the record - that's different arms of a conglomerate behaving in different ways and doesn't reflect badly at all on Van Zandt.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:08 (ten years ago) link
who do you guys hate worse
paul simon
robbee roberston
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:10 (ten years ago) link
and surely the record's intention was to spread word abt south africa anyway, which it succeeded in doing.
― the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:10 (ten years ago) link
he says paid them *triple* scale in an interview with UNCUT last year, so if Van Zandt can't even get that fact correct, i dunno..
― piscesx, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link
it was just a ploy tho to make himself seem like not an asshole... which he definitely is
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link
btw
While taking the songwriting credits to himselfermSide oneNo. Title Writer(s) Length1. "The Boy in the Bubble" Forere Motloheloa, Paul Simon 3:592. "Graceland" Simon 4:483. "I Know What I Know" General MD Shirinda, Simon 3:134. "Gumboots" Lulu Masilela, Jonhjon Mkhalali, Simon 2:445. "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes" Joseph Shabalala, Simon 5:45Side twoNo. Title Writer(s) Length6. "You Can Call Me Al" Simon 4:397. "Under African Skies" Simon 3:378. "Homeless" Shabalala, Simon 3:489. "Crazy Love, Vol. II" Simon 4:1810. "That Was Your Mother" Simon 2:5211. "All Around the World or the Myth of Fingerprints" Los Lobos, Simon 3:15― lag∞n, Monday, January 27, 2014 2:26 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
erm
Side oneNo. Title Writer(s) Length1. "The Boy in the Bubble" Forere Motloheloa, Paul Simon 3:592. "Graceland" Simon 4:483. "I Know What I Know" General MD Shirinda, Simon 3:134. "Gumboots" Lulu Masilela, Jonhjon Mkhalali, Simon 2:445. "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes" Joseph Shabalala, Simon 5:45Side twoNo. Title Writer(s) Length6. "You Can Call Me Al" Simon 4:397. "Under African Skies" Simon 3:378. "Homeless" Shabalala, Simon 3:489. "Crazy Love, Vol. II" Simon 4:1810. "That Was Your Mother" Simon 2:5211. "All Around the World or the Myth of Fingerprints" Los Lobos, Simon 3:15
― lag∞n, Monday, January 27, 2014 2:26 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
perhaps worth noting that OG pressing of Graceland didn't credit Los Lobos for writing music to Myth of Fingerprints - did this happen later?
http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-373375-1289409207.jpeg
― the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link
has anybody confirmed these pay claims of Simon's or is it just well we asked him and he says he paid the shit outta those ingrates
― second set all dead boys covers (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link
"he said he heard it from his friend henry kissinger" is my favorite unsourced bit of character assassination literally ever
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:22 (ten years ago) link
ha no p sure someone was just monkeying around on wikipedia
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link
probably los lobos
― tylerw, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link
i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour)Posted: January 27, 2014 at 7:22:00 PM"he said he heard it from his friend henry kissinger" is my favorite unsourced bit of character assassination literally ever
lol yes virtuoso shit
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:25 (ten years ago) link
did paul simon even write la bamba
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:25 (ten years ago) link
I did used to think that was Paul Simon on the cover of the La Bamba soundtrack when I was a little kid.
― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link
forbidden link, he's killed them already
― Euler, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link
no fingerprints were ever found, it was a myth
― Euler, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link
still so fucking crazy after all these years
― tylerw, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link
I always thought it was a coincidence that call me al was an anagram of la bamba
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:30 (ten years ago) link
wish that synth/horn hook in "You Can Call Me Al" would go on forever and ever.
― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/983970/paul-simon-you-can-call-me-al-o.gif
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:46 (ten years ago) link
Paul Simon as six-string bass sessioneer
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link
yesss.
― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link
Serious question - have there ever been any similar claims about songwriting around Rhythm of the Saints? He must have brought people in for that album in the same way, no? Or is there just something special about attaching villainy to Graceland's making?
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:37 (ten years ago) link
TROTS, as much as I love it, sounds like he grafted Brazilian percussion onto acoustic demos, while the Graceland compositions integrate their source material and inspirations.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:41 (ten years ago) link
Did Butt Rash get credit for his contribution to 'Allergies'?
― Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link
x-post-Vincent Nguini, who collaborated with Simon om much of Rhythm of the Saints has also been in Simon's traveling band since. He gets credit on some TROTS songs but not others. But yes, neither he nor the others seem to have complained this time. The manner of recording and the usage of the sounds is arguably different.
http://www.americansongwriter.com/2011/10/interview-paul-simon-discusses-songwriter-and-songwriting/
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2008/04/rhymin-simon-no.html Steve Berlin of Los Lobos
― curmudgeon, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
Hey, btw, Paul Simon is touring with Sting.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link
that's the kind of shit that will get you a UN blacklist
― tylerw, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:33 (ten years ago) link
That and giving Ban Ki-Moon a credit on 'cars are cars'
― Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link
give henry ford credit imo
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link
Ah, helpful info.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 27 January 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
this is what's kinda weird to me - people here rep hard for Graceland, it seems to me - like in a "you are fronting if you don't concede it's great" way. but fuckin'...dude touring with Sting is basically perfect. they are the same kind of songwriter. I have some love for stuff by both of them, but Simon's elevation to The Guy Who Wrote This Incredible Shit level is weird to me. He's real good sometimes. That's about it. So's Sting. But I can't imagine anybody jumping down any throats if somebody said you know what Sting sucks ass
― joe perry has been dead for years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link
Be srs
― gelatinate mess (darraghmac), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:11 (ten years ago) link
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/really_house_of_cards.gif
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:12 (ten years ago) link
aero throwin down the gauntlet
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:16 (ten years ago) link