and surely the record's intention was to spread word abt south africa anyway, which it succeeded in doing.
― the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:10 (ten years ago) link
he says paid them *triple* scale in an interview with UNCUT last year, so if Van Zandt can't even get that fact correct, i dunno..
― piscesx, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link
it was just a ploy tho to make himself seem like not an asshole... which he definitely is
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link
btw
While taking the songwriting credits to himselfermSide oneNo. Title Writer(s) Length1. "The Boy in the Bubble" Forere Motloheloa, Paul Simon 3:592. "Graceland" Simon 4:483. "I Know What I Know" General MD Shirinda, Simon 3:134. "Gumboots" Lulu Masilela, Jonhjon Mkhalali, Simon 2:445. "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes" Joseph Shabalala, Simon 5:45Side twoNo. Title Writer(s) Length6. "You Can Call Me Al" Simon 4:397. "Under African Skies" Simon 3:378. "Homeless" Shabalala, Simon 3:489. "Crazy Love, Vol. II" Simon 4:1810. "That Was Your Mother" Simon 2:5211. "All Around the World or the Myth of Fingerprints" Los Lobos, Simon 3:15― lag∞n, Monday, January 27, 2014 2:26 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
erm
Side oneNo. Title Writer(s) Length1. "The Boy in the Bubble" Forere Motloheloa, Paul Simon 3:592. "Graceland" Simon 4:483. "I Know What I Know" General MD Shirinda, Simon 3:134. "Gumboots" Lulu Masilela, Jonhjon Mkhalali, Simon 2:445. "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes" Joseph Shabalala, Simon 5:45Side twoNo. Title Writer(s) Length6. "You Can Call Me Al" Simon 4:397. "Under African Skies" Simon 3:378. "Homeless" Shabalala, Simon 3:489. "Crazy Love, Vol. II" Simon 4:1810. "That Was Your Mother" Simon 2:5211. "All Around the World or the Myth of Fingerprints" Los Lobos, Simon 3:15
― lag∞n, Monday, January 27, 2014 2:26 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
perhaps worth noting that OG pressing of Graceland didn't credit Los Lobos for writing music to Myth of Fingerprints - did this happen later?
http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-373375-1289409207.jpeg
― the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link
has anybody confirmed these pay claims of Simon's or is it just well we asked him and he says he paid the shit outta those ingrates
― second set all dead boys covers (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link
"he said he heard it from his friend henry kissinger" is my favorite unsourced bit of character assassination literally ever
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:22 (ten years ago) link
ha no p sure someone was just monkeying around on wikipedia
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link
probably los lobos
― tylerw, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link
i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour)Posted: January 27, 2014 at 7:22:00 PM"he said he heard it from his friend henry kissinger" is my favorite unsourced bit of character assassination literally ever
lol yes virtuoso shit
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:25 (ten years ago) link
did paul simon even write la bamba
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:25 (ten years ago) link
I did used to think that was Paul Simon on the cover of the La Bamba soundtrack when I was a little kid.
― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link
forbidden link, he's killed them already
― Euler, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link
no fingerprints were ever found, it was a myth
― Euler, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link
still so fucking crazy after all these years
― tylerw, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link
I always thought it was a coincidence that call me al was an anagram of la bamba
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:30 (ten years ago) link
wish that synth/horn hook in "You Can Call Me Al" would go on forever and ever.
― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/983970/paul-simon-you-can-call-me-al-o.gif
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:46 (ten years ago) link
Paul Simon as six-string bass sessioneer
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link
yesss.
― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link
Serious question - have there ever been any similar claims about songwriting around Rhythm of the Saints? He must have brought people in for that album in the same way, no? Or is there just something special about attaching villainy to Graceland's making?
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:37 (ten years ago) link
TROTS, as much as I love it, sounds like he grafted Brazilian percussion onto acoustic demos, while the Graceland compositions integrate their source material and inspirations.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:41 (ten years ago) link
Did Butt Rash get credit for his contribution to 'Allergies'?
― Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link
x-post-Vincent Nguini, who collaborated with Simon om much of Rhythm of the Saints has also been in Simon's traveling band since. He gets credit on some TROTS songs but not others. But yes, neither he nor the others seem to have complained this time. The manner of recording and the usage of the sounds is arguably different.
http://www.americansongwriter.com/2011/10/interview-paul-simon-discusses-songwriter-and-songwriting/
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2008/04/rhymin-simon-no.html Steve Berlin of Los Lobos
― curmudgeon, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
Hey, btw, Paul Simon is touring with Sting.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link
that's the kind of shit that will get you a UN blacklist
― tylerw, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:33 (ten years ago) link
That and giving Ban Ki-Moon a credit on 'cars are cars'
― Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link
give henry ford credit imo
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link
Ah, helpful info.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 27 January 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
this is what's kinda weird to me - people here rep hard for Graceland, it seems to me - like in a "you are fronting if you don't concede it's great" way. but fuckin'...dude touring with Sting is basically perfect. they are the same kind of songwriter. I have some love for stuff by both of them, but Simon's elevation to The Guy Who Wrote This Incredible Shit level is weird to me. He's real good sometimes. That's about it. So's Sting. But I can't imagine anybody jumping down any throats if somebody said you know what Sting sucks ass
― joe perry has been dead for years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link
Be srs
― gelatinate mess (darraghmac), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:11 (ten years ago) link
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/really_house_of_cards.gif
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:12 (ten years ago) link
aero throwin down the gauntlet
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:16 (ten years ago) link
fwiw I hate the Police and Sting and everything they ever did so comparison to Simon is pretty odious to my ears
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:17 (ten years ago) link
I'm not gonna deny they occupy the same cultural space/audience demo but who cares about that
Nah, I like Sting a lot, but he's not, in my opinion, on the same level as Simon who wrote all of S&G's (excellent) stuff and in addition to that created a respectable body of solo work. Sting wrote a lot of good stuff for the Police, but only had a nice couple of solo albums before getting stuck in AC sludge. Which is a shame, because Sting could have done some really interesting "world" music like Simon did (example: "I Burn for You"), but he...didn't.
Still, it's a show I'd think about going to see.
― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:18 (ten years ago) link
Sting certainly never created a Graceland, and while neither Simon & Garfunkel nor the Police tended to create great, cohesive albums, both their final efforts (Bridge Over Troubled Water & Synchronicity) come closest, but the former blows the latter away because it's not bogged down by bizarre and disjointed Garfunkel compositions, while the latter definitely suffers from "Mother".
― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:20 (ten years ago) link
sting is awesome, paul simon is even awesomer, i hope the keep stealing rad music until the polar ice caps melt and we all get eaten by merfolk
― Lamp, Monday, 27 January 2014 23:21 (ten years ago) link
mother does nothing but help synchronicity
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link
I can see why people would think that, but it's never done anything for me. Don't know why, but perhaps I'll revisit it someday.
― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link
i much prefer simon but
http://www.paul-simon.info/PHP/pictures/thumb2/755_AnnieHall.jpgvshttp://vaginacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/GF-Needed-Remakes-Image-2.jpg
not a fierce contest
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link
yeah, one worked w/ david lynch and the other one's palling around w/ child molesters and war criminals
― balls, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link
war criminals
b-b-b-ut Sting invited Stewart Copeland to his palazzo!
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:12 (ten years ago) link
dude touring with Sting is basically perfect. they are the same kind of songwriter.
I can't tell if this post is ironic or not, but you do know that Simon has also toured with Dylan, right?
― o. nate, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:54 (ten years ago) link
Sting played Macheath on B'way, Simon wrote a flop B'way musical
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:59 (ten years ago) link
so has My Morning Jacket
― joe perry has been dead for years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:55 (ten years ago) link
Eliding the fact that while sting has done a lot if things, he hasn't done any of them particularly well. His output is just loathsome all around.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 03:02 (ten years ago) link
Tantric loathsome?
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 03:04 (ten years ago) link
capeman is an incredible album
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 03:11 (ten years ago) link
sting toured w/ the dead
― balls, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 03:15 (ten years ago) link