one track and minimal description to be greeted by the retching of grampas
i actually looked for a suitable vomit.gif before deciding that was too aggressive
― the late great, Monday, 27 January 2014 20:42 (ten years ago) link
is moda black derp blech i mean deep tech or is that too "old"
― just (Matt P), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:43 (ten years ago) link
idgi either. is it that it's like 117 instead of 120 bpm?
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link
It's okay dudes I'd be concerned if you weren't acting like tbh.
― Tim F, Monday, 27 January 2014 20:46 (ten years ago) link
I feel this thread needs this classic r|t|c quote that has always stuck in my mind in relation to this scene:
let's lay all the notes out. where was q going before his untimely death? the house in house & garage, full circle ouroboros. maturation of bass? the medlar remix of disclosure. disclosure themselves. mk mix of storm queen. jamie jones vs azari big at the tail end of funky. bashmore topping the urban and scene charts with 'au seve'. garage scene raving to annie mac.
huxley. hot creations. nick hannam. hot creations and nick hannam. the jackin lot - cheap n cheerful boshers AND proper house-trained operators fluent in todays clubbing, not the late, crippled baby steps house deejaying that permeated and set off london funky. hannah wants, maya jane coles , what the diff? the garage scene has never been closer to house than it has been now. is it one sided? is it mutual? if they didnt meet halfway where did they meet? murky, got a bass to it. real actual bass. 'hialeah house party' is grimy as hell. vox samples - wiseguys or brandy or fonda rae or gotye or allure it doesnt matter don't you see
― boxedjoy, Monday, 27 January 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link
house/four on the floor isn't my area of expertise but this makes me think of aeroplane's 'whispers' and other assorted nu disco.
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:50 (ten years ago) link
150 words to say "deep house is in vogue again," nice xp
― just (Matt P), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:51 (ten years ago) link
i think there is a bit of nu-disco/deep house convergence in the u.s. actually
― just (Matt P), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:52 (ten years ago) link
That rtc post is not really about this stuff strictly, though it's all related - this is more on a cold populist tech-house with burbling basslines and occasional vocals tip, and really is in that Pascalian "you have to start praying before you will believe" camp.
― Tim F, Monday, 27 January 2014 20:59 (ten years ago) link
In that regard the track I linked in the OP is quite light and slow - the key genre ingredient in the track is the bass.
― Tim F, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link
if you could work that together w/ some sort of 'the difficulty of sitting alone in a room' thing i would be v. gratified
― j., Monday, 27 January 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link
lol
― just (Matt P), Monday, 27 January 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link
slow compared to what?
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 27 January 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link
Well compared to something like Max Milan & Donae'o's "Hold On":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8qDXICAqrs
Of course as per usual all this stuff gets pitched up in the mix in any event.
― Tim F, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:33 (ten years ago) link
but it's only 2 - 3 bpm slower than that - is that, like, a huge difference in houseland? serious question.
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:17 (ten years ago) link
No, it's just that listening to the first tune without pitching up gives off a slower vibe generally - e.g. normally comparing this stuff to Aeroplane wouldn't make any sense.
― Tim F, Monday, 27 January 2014 23:34 (ten years ago) link
Is there a good mix of this stuff somewhere I should listen to?
― raggett neds of your summer dress (The Reverend), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:36 (ten years ago) link
This set remains a real keeper for me, though it only really heats up after the first few tunes:
set picked fairly at random (they're all quite even really, although the one with the shay & sinista guest mix recently that i believe you heard was a bit of a flop imo). iirc radford accidentally coins the splendid phrase "upgrunt house" here btw[Rinse FM Podcast] Mark Radford - 19th October 2013http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/712779/file.htmlOliver Rees - EnergyD'Vinci - Modus OperandiNRKY - Self DestructArea 8 - I AmTruce ft Kenny Knots - Take ControlRs4 - Walking OnNightshift - Cult MusicFalse Identity - Goon To A GoblinShay & Sinista - To YouRoger Porterfield - Candy AcidFluorescent Noise - Go DeepMartin Ikin - Nothing To FearFluorescent Noise - Feel The SameNightshift - HigherD'Vinci - Every WeekendRs4 - Locked On YouCarnao Beats ft Donae'o - Gone In The MorningHugo Massien - MenaceKane Law - Free Your MindRs4 - In The DarkRs4 & Pretty Casual (aka Kane Law) - Time OutHugo Massien - UntitledRhys Catania - One Life― r|t|c, Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:30 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
[Rinse FM Podcast] Mark Radford - 19th October 2013http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/712779/file.html
Oliver Rees - EnergyD'Vinci - Modus OperandiNRKY - Self DestructArea 8 - I AmTruce ft Kenny Knots - Take ControlRs4 - Walking OnNightshift - Cult MusicFalse Identity - Goon To A GoblinShay & Sinista - To YouRoger Porterfield - Candy AcidFluorescent Noise - Go DeepMartin Ikin - Nothing To FearFluorescent Noise - Feel The SameNightshift - HigherD'Vinci - Every WeekendRs4 - Locked On YouCarnao Beats ft Donae'o - Gone In The MorningHugo Massien - MenaceKane Law - Free Your MindRs4 - In The DarkRs4 & Pretty Casual (aka Kane Law) - Time OutHugo Massien - UntitledRhys Catania - One Life
― r|t|c, Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:30 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Tim F, Monday, 27 January 2014 23:43 (ten years ago) link
thx
― raggett neds of your summer dress (The Reverend), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:44 (ten years ago) link
so djs generally speed these tracks up in sets, but they didn't speed up Aeroplane?
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:47 (ten years ago) link
Not generally - Aeroplane tracks were designed to play at a disco tempo.
But not particularly much turns on this issue IMO - the difference between this scene and Aeroplane is not founded in tempo primarily.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 00:41 (ten years ago) link
bookmarked btw, only mentioning this as a counter to the negs
― schlager top (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 00:54 (ten years ago) link
If you can't feel it, you're not close enough.
― etc, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:07 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8iursOmImo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FOesMUtmB8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PriKWfE-sic
― Benny B, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:19 (ten years ago) link
I spent an hour looking at #cuttingshapes youtubes the other day after a Youtube commenter mentioned the movement in the Jaded video
I approve of this thread
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 09:58 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqdwud89AJk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wyzn0UvA6I
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 09:59 (ten years ago) link
the thread-starting track is AMAZING
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:23 (ten years ago) link
the word "upgrunt" is emphatically not amazing
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:24 (ten years ago) link
also this track is too good, i don't want to hear it sped up
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:32 (ten years ago) link
― Tim F, lunes 27 de enero de 2014 21:59 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this would be the relevant rtc quote
i mean everyone sorta knows the deal with shuffle by now, like what it's supposed to be - the narcotic introversion, stalking industrial bleak anomie, shade of bleep hardcore submarine sonorities and/or leather jacket geezer 8bar like jon e cash or w/e (also heard radford remark on one tune as "like a metalheadz version of house"), portentous digital boogie, some of it hot creations tongue-in-cheek, verging but rarely tipping into a jagged dexplicit/ballroom mania - one soundcloud tag had it as "3d house" which i quite like - these kinda revolving schematic polygonal mesh wireframe vertices and such, "cutting shapes" after all. 3d house also works best like 3d from massive attack who perhaps better exemplify the moody vox sample matrix than s&m, although there are some dubwise capers at play i feel
― Benny B, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:37 (ten years ago) link
"Upgrunt" was a Freudian slip by DJ Mark radford that I included in the title because I was very drunk last night and making all sorts of poor life decisions.
Glad you like the opening tune lex!
― Tim F, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 11:11 (ten years ago) link
Fab quote from rtc there, I almost want to be a musician just so I can commission him for liner notes.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 11:12 (ten years ago) link
Oh great, people LMFAO-dance to this shit?
― raggett neds of your summer dress (The Reverend), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:56 (ten years ago) link
Funnily enough, this form of dancing was the default form of dancing to house / techno in Melbourne throughout the 90s and early 00s, to the point that in Australia it's called the "Melbourne Shuffle".
― Tim F, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:24 (ten years ago) link
Tim you know this one yeah? It's been around for ages but feels like the sort of thing you'd like (could be wrong of course):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPNtoS3GUrw
― late nite tuff guy/early morning wimp (Mr Andy M), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link
This one too:
https://soundcloud.com/nrky/nrky-feat-iviee-mercutio
― late nite tuff guy/early morning wimp (Mr Andy M), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link
Generally I'm enjoying dipping a toe into shuffle/deeptech but I suspect if I get too into it then me & paolo will have a musical falling-out :p
― late nite tuff guy/early morning wimp (Mr Andy M), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 22:52 (ten years ago) link
Glad there's a thread on this stuff.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 07:23 (ten years ago) link
what is the track with wu tang sample at 3 minutes into gotshapes #5?
it is an acceptable track.
― the late great, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 07:26 (ten years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=443065059072623
― the late great, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 07:29 (ten years ago) link
been into this one for a while now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YsNO3qo1l0
― Dick Townwolves (Captain Ahab), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 07:50 (ten years ago) link
Andy I adore "When The Night Falls"! I think generally these tunes with overlapping/interweaving basslines and metallic synth riffs are my favourite.
Speaking of which, still obsessed with "Locked On You" also:
https://soundcloud.com/rs4house/soulstar-locked-on-you-rs4
― Tim F, Saturday, 8 February 2014 07:48 (ten years ago) link
THIS:
https://soundcloud.com/carnao-beats-1/listen-to-me
― Tim F, Monday, 10 March 2014 04:37 (ten years ago) link
omg that one is amazing
― lex pretend, Monday, 10 March 2014 10:01 (ten years ago) link
is that soundcloud an edit? i feel like it couple be double/triple the length
I expect so - "Gone In The Morning" (his previous one with Donae'o) stretched on for eight lugubrious minutes and this feels like a sequel.
― Tim F, Monday, 10 March 2014 10:06 (ten years ago) link
can you explain how this and "circles" don't belong on the uk pop-house thread? these two songs are prob two of my favourite of 2014 but i don't hear what makes them different...
― lex pretend, Monday, 10 March 2014 10:08 (ten years ago) link
Well nothing really - at the vocal-pop end of the scene the only distinguishing factor is those burbling metallic basslines. But (as always with this kind of scene) the fun thing about deep tech is the interwoven tracky/crossover vibe, so for myself I like not to keep them in the one place mentally - they probably warrant cross-posting though!
This is my favourite trackier-but-still-anthemic deep tech tune of the past few months:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCtHMKyJiL8
― Tim F, Monday, 10 March 2014 10:15 (ten years ago) link
1 hour deep tech mix i just did
http://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/deep-blue/
1. Ligne Onze - Crackboy & Jean Nipon2. When the Night falls - Storm & Lance Morgan3. OKAY - Shiba San4. Turn it up (Tchami remix) - Mercer5. Sicker than your average - Playtime Productions6. Duality - J Beatz7. You & Me (No Artificial colours remix) - Rob Made8. Gotham - Ten walls9. Super Shady - Tom Garnett & Chris Lorenzo10. Nothing to fear - Martin Ikin11. Hungry for the power (Jamie Baggotts Remix) - Azari & III12. Heading My Way ft. Tamara - Playtime Productions13. With U - Mark Radford14. FlyLOVE (Friend Within remix) - Chris Turner15. Squared - No Artificial Colours16. Down - Scottie D17. Valley of the shadows (Will Clarke, Steve Westover & Some Bloke called John Re-Rub) - Origin Unknown18. Gunman (Jamie Baggotts remix) - 187 Lockdown19. Inevitable - Playtime Productions20. Video Games (Reset Safari's 'Lost in 94' remix) - Lana Del Ray 21. Gunman (slight return)
― Benny B, Monday, 17 March 2014 16:27 (ten years ago) link
Crazy, some of my fave music at the moment.
How great is Shiba San - Okay?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1txVyyLkb6g
― MikoMcha, Monday, 17 March 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link
^ official video, not a bootleg
― Benny B, Friday, 5 June 2015 08:48 (nine years ago) link
on black butter!
― Benny B, Friday, 5 June 2015 08:49 (nine years ago) link
Weird, ends up with a bit of an Azealia Banks vibe.
Also the track is like two years old now, isn't it? That said, still sounds fresh.
― MikoMcha, Friday, 5 June 2015 10:46 (nine years ago) link
Waiting now for the seemingly inevitable Hyperdub deep tech release.
― MikoMcha, Friday, 5 June 2015 10:48 (nine years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/coolyg/tatey-baby-mix-by-cooly-g
2 late
― r|t|c, Friday, 5 June 2015 11:13 (nine years ago) link
Nightshift Blitz, just out, is the hypest thing in a while https://soundcloud.com/houseofhustle/hoh-015-nightshift-blitz
And this older K Master mix is starting off the same https://soundcloud.com/k-master-1/k-master-usd-fm-radioshow-w-jay-power-perch-mc-guest-mix-5th-nov-2014
― gonzo84d, Monday, 8 June 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
been playing this Archie B mix lots http://www.datatransmission.co.uk/news/mix-of-the-day-archie-b/
lots of old rave vocals
― gonzo84d, Sunday, 26 July 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link
"Waiting now for the seemingly inevitable Hyperdub deep tech release.
― MikoMcha, Friday, June 5, 2015 6:48 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"
http://thump.vice.com/en_uk/track/cooly-gs-on-a-mad-one-with-this-heavy-hitter-from-new-ep-armzhouse
:/
― gonzo84d, Thursday, 6 August 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link
I'm not sure whether it's pleasing or annoying that this really is just straight up deep tech.
― Tim F, Friday, 7 August 2015 12:58 (eight years ago) link
Yeah. What's definitely annoying is that the piece (and she) doesn't make any reference to the scene or anything, just seems to come out of nowhere.
in happier news Jay Power has outdone himself with this one https://soundcloud.com/djjaypower/ay-power-perch-mc-london-live-1030fm-962015
when the track at 14:30 comes in is the height of everything. anyone know what it is?
Kane Law pulls in the same track halfway through his feature on Radford in April and you can use the two as an exhibit in how great Jay is as a DJ. Like you say Tim "he has a very specific notion of what it is that these tracks are supposed to do" that Kane and most others don't. lets it play out in full, while Kane slams it in without ceremony and cuts it off halfway through. (That Kane's section of the mix is still thrilling despite this is is a tribute to how terrific this music is). https://soundcloud.com/rinsefm/markradford180415
Not just jay though -- Perch knows exactly when to drop in and out of the mix. Went to House of Silk last month and the MC was awful, stomping over everything, but Perch brings it. love his instagram too https://instagram.com/p/55VVbNR1Yr/?taken-by=realperchmc
― gonzo84d, Friday, 7 August 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/kanelawmusic/clip-of-mark-radford-live-from-ministry-of-sound-playing-higher-by-hugo-massien-kane-law-remix
― r|t|c, Friday, 7 August 2015 17:36 (eight years ago) link
thanks!
― gonzo84d, Friday, 7 August 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link
good cooly g track
― the late great, Saturday, 8 August 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link
Oh wow this Jay Power set
― Tim F, Monday, 10 August 2015 08:53 (eight years ago) link
As with other his earlier sets discussed above he has this real knack of making each track sound like a step up from whatever it's emerging out of, though I'm pretty sure this is an illusion.
― Tim F, Monday, 10 August 2015 08:54 (eight years ago) link
A little late, but "From Above" is really great! Only liking a pretty small percentage of this music overall.
This cutting shapes stuff is not how I would have imagined moving to it, but I guess that's pretty moot considering how unlikely it is I will be out dancing to this in clubs any time soon.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link
wait . . . did anyone know that Luke Larrell who did Serious People a k a the first Audio Rehab release a k a the first deep tech release was previously Flukes from Crazy Cousinz?? Just stumbled on this fact by accident here https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151919639114477&id=43921789476 and hadn't seen any mention of it
― gonzo84d, Monday, 17 August 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link
latest in k.flint's for promotional use only series https://soundcloud.com/k-flint/for-promotional-use-only-3
― gonzo84d, Thursday, 15 October 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
if anyone's still out there . . . Cooly G makes the Thump tracks of the year list . . . https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/the-50-best-tracks-of-2015
― gonzo84d, Friday, 11 December 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link
Self-promotion but I think my review (brutally shortened though it may have been) did a decent job of explaining the vibe of the release:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16809-this-aint-chicago-the-underground-sound-of-uk-house-and-acid-1987-1991/
― Tim F, Friday, 22 February 2013 22:38 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'm reckoning if you sub the ecstasy blear there for kanye style modern anomie & grime refugee aggro influence and then inject that into a confluence of the shuffling/shapes urban mnml scene and ejeca/waze & odyssey acid warehouse revival u might possibly have the ldn flavour to come
just saying like
― r|t|c, Friday, 22 February 2013 23:03 Bookmark
https://soundcloud.com/skreamizm/sets/techno-eski-ideas
― r|t|c, Saturday, 4 June 2016 13:07 (eight years ago) link
i'm not srsly rating myself for that before anyone gets funny :)
hopefully it may at least still come to pass that strange static/vybe/kg3 aren't making simultaneously the most crucial yet most irrelevant music ever though. recent stuff is mind-blowing and there just doesnt seem any place for it
― r|t|c, Saturday, 4 June 2016 13:29 (eight years ago) link
Eski techno = A+ hypothetical genre would bang all that shit.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 4 June 2016 13:30 (eight years ago) link
tbh the wishful hypothetical thing i'd most be taken with is some sort of amniotic melange biz drawing from the strange jazzy abstraction of that uk house and acid comp plus the more uncommon bits of that woebot 89-93 uk techno mix on the other thread. lil silva became larry heard so could arun verone become kirk degiorgio etc
basically the thought of if factmag will turn everything into idm then why not have that add up to something more not less idk
lol everyone i can dimly remember from the deeptech scene who began to make sort of interesting experimental guff like that (like imagemk, karlton phillips) has now deleted them off their soundclouds and went all linear zzz again
― r|t|c, Saturday, 4 June 2016 13:55 (eight years ago) link
whats the good non afrobeats non grime non factnerd uk dance music this year. is there a 2016 thread equiv i missed
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link
death by a thousand cuttin shapes
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 19 December 2016 01:00 (seven years ago) link
I for one have no clue.
― Tim F, Monday, 19 December 2016 01:08 (seven years ago) link
all these dead links make for one depressing thread!!
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 03:34 (three years ago) link
But “one track and minimal description to be greeted by the retching of grampas” really made me lol.
― Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 04:35 (three years ago) link
oh yah lots of good discourse ... just wish the mixes & tracks werent like , vanished
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link