but it's only 2 - 3 bpm slower than that - is that, like, a huge difference in houseland? serious question.
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:17 (ten years ago) link
No, it's just that listening to the first tune without pitching up gives off a slower vibe generally - e.g. normally comparing this stuff to Aeroplane wouldn't make any sense.
― Tim F, Monday, 27 January 2014 23:34 (ten years ago) link
Is there a good mix of this stuff somewhere I should listen to?
― raggett neds of your summer dress (The Reverend), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:36 (ten years ago) link
This set remains a real keeper for me, though it only really heats up after the first few tunes:
set picked fairly at random (they're all quite even really, although the one with the shay & sinista guest mix recently that i believe you heard was a bit of a flop imo). iirc radford accidentally coins the splendid phrase "upgrunt house" here btw[Rinse FM Podcast] Mark Radford - 19th October 2013http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/712779/file.htmlOliver Rees - EnergyD'Vinci - Modus OperandiNRKY - Self DestructArea 8 - I AmTruce ft Kenny Knots - Take ControlRs4 - Walking OnNightshift - Cult MusicFalse Identity - Goon To A GoblinShay & Sinista - To YouRoger Porterfield - Candy AcidFluorescent Noise - Go DeepMartin Ikin - Nothing To FearFluorescent Noise - Feel The SameNightshift - HigherD'Vinci - Every WeekendRs4 - Locked On YouCarnao Beats ft Donae'o - Gone In The MorningHugo Massien - MenaceKane Law - Free Your MindRs4 - In The DarkRs4 & Pretty Casual (aka Kane Law) - Time OutHugo Massien - UntitledRhys Catania - One Life― r|t|c, Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:30 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
[Rinse FM Podcast] Mark Radford - 19th October 2013http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/712779/file.html
Oliver Rees - EnergyD'Vinci - Modus OperandiNRKY - Self DestructArea 8 - I AmTruce ft Kenny Knots - Take ControlRs4 - Walking OnNightshift - Cult MusicFalse Identity - Goon To A GoblinShay & Sinista - To YouRoger Porterfield - Candy AcidFluorescent Noise - Go DeepMartin Ikin - Nothing To FearFluorescent Noise - Feel The SameNightshift - HigherD'Vinci - Every WeekendRs4 - Locked On YouCarnao Beats ft Donae'o - Gone In The MorningHugo Massien - MenaceKane Law - Free Your MindRs4 - In The DarkRs4 & Pretty Casual (aka Kane Law) - Time OutHugo Massien - UntitledRhys Catania - One Life
― r|t|c, Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:30 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Tim F, Monday, 27 January 2014 23:43 (ten years ago) link
thx
― raggett neds of your summer dress (The Reverend), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:44 (ten years ago) link
so djs generally speed these tracks up in sets, but they didn't speed up Aeroplane?
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:47 (ten years ago) link
Not generally - Aeroplane tracks were designed to play at a disco tempo.
But not particularly much turns on this issue IMO - the difference between this scene and Aeroplane is not founded in tempo primarily.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 00:41 (ten years ago) link
bookmarked btw, only mentioning this as a counter to the negs
― schlager top (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 00:54 (ten years ago) link
If you can't feel it, you're not close enough.
― etc, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:07 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8iursOmImo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FOesMUtmB8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PriKWfE-sic
― Benny B, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:19 (ten years ago) link
I spent an hour looking at #cuttingshapes youtubes the other day after a Youtube commenter mentioned the movement in the Jaded video
I approve of this thread
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 09:58 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqdwud89AJk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wyzn0UvA6I
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 09:59 (ten years ago) link
the thread-starting track is AMAZING
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:23 (ten years ago) link
the word "upgrunt" is emphatically not amazing
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:24 (ten years ago) link
also this track is too good, i don't want to hear it sped up
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:32 (ten years ago) link
That rtc post is not really about this stuff strictly, though it's all related - this is more on a cold populist tech-house with burbling basslines and occasional vocals tip, and really is in that Pascalian "you have to start praying before you will believe" camp.
― Tim F, lunes 27 de enero de 2014 21:59 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this would be the relevant rtc quote
i mean everyone sorta knows the deal with shuffle by now, like what it's supposed to be - the narcotic introversion, stalking industrial bleak anomie, shade of bleep hardcore submarine sonorities and/or leather jacket geezer 8bar like jon e cash or w/e (also heard radford remark on one tune as "like a metalheadz version of house"), portentous digital boogie, some of it hot creations tongue-in-cheek, verging but rarely tipping into a jagged dexplicit/ballroom mania - one soundcloud tag had it as "3d house" which i quite like - these kinda revolving schematic polygonal mesh wireframe vertices and such, "cutting shapes" after all. 3d house also works best like 3d from massive attack who perhaps better exemplify the moody vox sample matrix than s&m, although there are some dubwise capers at play i feel
― Benny B, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:37 (ten years ago) link
"Upgrunt" was a Freudian slip by DJ Mark radford that I included in the title because I was very drunk last night and making all sorts of poor life decisions.
Glad you like the opening tune lex!
― Tim F, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 11:11 (ten years ago) link
Fab quote from rtc there, I almost want to be a musician just so I can commission him for liner notes.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 11:12 (ten years ago) link
Oh great, people LMFAO-dance to this shit?
― raggett neds of your summer dress (The Reverend), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:56 (ten years ago) link
Funnily enough, this form of dancing was the default form of dancing to house / techno in Melbourne throughout the 90s and early 00s, to the point that in Australia it's called the "Melbourne Shuffle".
― Tim F, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:24 (ten years ago) link
Tim you know this one yeah? It's been around for ages but feels like the sort of thing you'd like (could be wrong of course):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPNtoS3GUrw
― late nite tuff guy/early morning wimp (Mr Andy M), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link
This one too:
https://soundcloud.com/nrky/nrky-feat-iviee-mercutio
― late nite tuff guy/early morning wimp (Mr Andy M), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link
Generally I'm enjoying dipping a toe into shuffle/deeptech but I suspect if I get too into it then me & paolo will have a musical falling-out :p
― late nite tuff guy/early morning wimp (Mr Andy M), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 22:52 (ten years ago) link
Glad there's a thread on this stuff.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 07:23 (ten years ago) link
what is the track with wu tang sample at 3 minutes into gotshapes #5?
it is an acceptable track.
― the late great, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 07:26 (ten years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=443065059072623
― the late great, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 07:29 (ten years ago) link
been into this one for a while now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YsNO3qo1l0
― Dick Townwolves (Captain Ahab), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 07:50 (ten years ago) link
Andy I adore "When The Night Falls"! I think generally these tunes with overlapping/interweaving basslines and metallic synth riffs are my favourite.
Speaking of which, still obsessed with "Locked On You" also:
https://soundcloud.com/rs4house/soulstar-locked-on-you-rs4
― Tim F, Saturday, 8 February 2014 07:48 (ten years ago) link
THIS:
https://soundcloud.com/carnao-beats-1/listen-to-me
― Tim F, Monday, 10 March 2014 04:37 (ten years ago) link
omg that one is amazing
― lex pretend, Monday, 10 March 2014 10:01 (ten years ago) link
is that soundcloud an edit? i feel like it couple be double/triple the length
I expect so - "Gone In The Morning" (his previous one with Donae'o) stretched on for eight lugubrious minutes and this feels like a sequel.
― Tim F, Monday, 10 March 2014 10:06 (ten years ago) link
can you explain how this and "circles" don't belong on the uk pop-house thread? these two songs are prob two of my favourite of 2014 but i don't hear what makes them different...
― lex pretend, Monday, 10 March 2014 10:08 (ten years ago) link
Well nothing really - at the vocal-pop end of the scene the only distinguishing factor is those burbling metallic basslines. But (as always with this kind of scene) the fun thing about deep tech is the interwoven tracky/crossover vibe, so for myself I like not to keep them in the one place mentally - they probably warrant cross-posting though!
This is my favourite trackier-but-still-anthemic deep tech tune of the past few months:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCtHMKyJiL8
― Tim F, Monday, 10 March 2014 10:15 (ten years ago) link
1 hour deep tech mix i just did
http://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/deep-blue/
1. Ligne Onze - Crackboy & Jean Nipon2. When the Night falls - Storm & Lance Morgan3. OKAY - Shiba San4. Turn it up (Tchami remix) - Mercer5. Sicker than your average - Playtime Productions6. Duality - J Beatz7. You & Me (No Artificial colours remix) - Rob Made8. Gotham - Ten walls9. Super Shady - Tom Garnett & Chris Lorenzo10. Nothing to fear - Martin Ikin11. Hungry for the power (Jamie Baggotts Remix) - Azari & III12. Heading My Way ft. Tamara - Playtime Productions13. With U - Mark Radford14. FlyLOVE (Friend Within remix) - Chris Turner15. Squared - No Artificial Colours16. Down - Scottie D17. Valley of the shadows (Will Clarke, Steve Westover & Some Bloke called John Re-Rub) - Origin Unknown18. Gunman (Jamie Baggotts remix) - 187 Lockdown19. Inevitable - Playtime Productions20. Video Games (Reset Safari's 'Lost in 94' remix) - Lana Del Ray 21. Gunman (slight return)
― Benny B, Monday, 17 March 2014 16:27 (ten years ago) link
Crazy, some of my fave music at the moment.
How great is Shiba San - Okay?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1txVyyLkb6g
― MikoMcha, Monday, 17 March 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link
So great. There seems to be a lot of scope for a jackin/deep tech convergence, to my ears at any rate.
Benny, any chance of a download link if I ask super nicely?
― Tim F, Monday, 17 March 2014 20:21 (ten years ago) link
will do tim
― Benny B, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
The transition into Gotham is sweet.
― MikoMcha, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link
http://www.sendspace.com/file/00r2te
― Benny B, Monday, 17 March 2014 23:45 (ten years ago) link
Excellent!
― Tim F, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 11:41 (ten years ago) link
8. Gotham - Ten walls9. Super Shady - Tom Garnett & Chris Lorenzo10. Nothing to fear - Martin Ikin
<3 this section
― Tim F, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
I guess this thread has never quite gotten a full head of steam going. Rev was asking ages ago about favorite mixes; there's been a handful of sets that I've been finding particularly vibesy and have been coming back to over and over, so thought I'd share them, partly in the hope that some of you could help fill in the gaps in my track listings.
First couple -
Majesty at Frequency December 2013https://soundcloud.com/djlancemorgan/majesty-live-frequency-2nd?in=djlancemorgan/sets/frequency-2nd-anniversary-live0.00 - Tazer - Wet Dollars4.00 - ??? ('All I wanna do is make the whole crowd bounce')7.20 - Tainted Souls - The Way10.30 - ??? (lots of warpy noises and build-ups)13.00 – Decimal – Party Non Stop (Jedi mix)15.45 - Richie Ahmed ft Kevin Knapp - The Drums19.30 - ??? (wordless vocals)23.35 – Majesty – I Can Tell (Luke Larrell remix)25.55 - Carnao Beats - Just Say Nothing (remix/VIP-type version)29.10 - ??? (melancholy synths)33.00 - ??? ('higher baby'. headstrong vibes)37.15 – WhoMadeWho – Every Minute Alone (Tale Of Us remix)41.10 - Kurtz & Bomber - Such A Rush43.30 - Playtime Productions - Our Kind (unreleased VIP-type mix?)47.45 - ??? (big bass stabs, off-key synth)51.45 - Carnao Beats - Know My Name (Amine Edge & Dance remix)54.30 - Dennis Ferrer- Mind Your Step58.30 - ??? (slow builder)62.35 - ??? (‘shake and pop’)
Truce b2b Supa D at Hidden January 2014:https://soundcloud.com/djsupad/dj-supa-d-b2b-dj-truce-breeze0.00 – Burnski – Lost In the Zoo (Martinez Bros remix)2.50 - ??? (Set-builder with perky pianos)6.10 – Carnao Beats – Know My Name (Amine Edge & Dance remix)8.25 – Nobody Knows – Breakdown (Kreature remix)11.45 - Truce ft Kenny Knots – Take Control16.25 - Dennis Ferrer – Mind Your Step19.40 - SOS Band – Just Be Good To Me (Truce remix)23.00 – X5 Dubs – I Just Can’t Understand26.05 - Bobby Womack – Love Is Gonna Lift You Up (Julio Basmore remix)28.20 - ??? (Very ominous and very ‘Euro’ sounding – would LOVE an ID on this one, suspect it could have been around for ages and ages)31.05 - ??? (‘Jack your body’ samples)33.45 - ??? (‘She ain’t got nothing on me’ – this one popped up in loads of sets I was hearing late last year)35.45 - MK – Always38.35 - Nick Holder – Erotic Illusions (Steve Bug & Martin Landsky remix)43.30 - ??? (female monologue, ‘into the black night’)45.20 - ??? (big repetitive bassline)47.25 - ??? (sounds like a remix of Gorillaz – Clint Eastwood, could easily be by Truce. Big!)
― late nite tuff guy/early morning wimp (Mr Andy M), Sunday, 6 April 2014 19:52 (ten years ago) link
And a couple more -
Carnao Beats at Home February 2014https://soundcloud.com/homeldn/home-sundays-live-002-carnao0.20 - ???3.00 - ??? (pitched-down male vocals)7.05 - ??? (acid stabs)9.25 - Luke Larrell – Secrets11.10 - Carnao Beats – Just Say Nothing14.45 - Fluorescent Noise – Go Deep17.15 - Carnao Beats ft Donaeo – Gone In The Morning 19.50 - Carnao Beats – H.O.U.S.E 21.55 - Tchami – Promesses 24.30 - Nightshift – Made You Look (Hugo Massien remix)28.00 - ??? (high-pitched vocal, ‘All you got to do’)30.05 - Dusky – Esperanto Juggler33.15 - ??? (weirdly seems to sample the vocal from Kariya – Let Me Love You For Tonight, NEED TO KNOW THIS ONE)36.00 -??? (Big monologue thing, ‘Stop for a minute and think how much we have together’, etc etc, NEED TO KNOW THIS ONE EVEN MORE)38.00 - Carnao Beats – Know My Name40.20 - ??? (wheezy synths & bass stabs)42.40 - ??? (stripped down dark thing)43.55 - ??? (vocal & piano thing, ‘My love and my touch’)47.00 - ???48.30 – Archie B - On & On52.20 - Playtime Productions – Heading My Way (Alize remix)54.55 - ??? (‘He’s going to tell the newspapers’)59.25 - ??? (Mournful bleepy thing)61.10 - ??? (‘Hammertime’ samples)63.46 – Carnao Beats – Lose It
Lee B3 Edwards – Be Free promo mix March 2014https://soundcloud.com/house-ent/befree10.00 – Trixz Aka Nano – Keep It Minimal 4.10 - Sia – Little Man (RS4 remix)8.40 - ??? (‘Don’t you know what goes around?’)12.05 - ??? (hip-hop samples, sounds like ‘hand on the pug/I’m in the coup cruising’ though I’m guessing that first line can’t be quite right)16.05 – SOS Band – Just Be Good To Me (Truce remix)20.00 - Fluorescent Noise – Go Deep23.55 - ??? (sounds like it’s remixing/sampling from Fatboy Slim – Praise You)27.30 - ??? (‘you’re a breath of fresh air to me’)30.30 - Nightshift – Made You Look (Hugo Massien remix)33.50 - ??? (think this might be by Arun Verone, has some of the same sounds as his tune Tell Me II)37.25 - ??? (more hip-hop samples, pummelling bass)41.05 - ??? (samples the ‘move to the vibe and know that you are blessed’ acapella)45.20 – A2H – Effin Cockneys48.50 - ??? (‘here I am, inside my little box’)53.00 – Creative Mind – The Five Senses57.25 – Arun Verone – Hater Shades61.00 – Creative Mind - Higher65.00 - ??? (‘the way you’re making me feel’)
― late nite tuff guy/early morning wimp (Mr Andy M), Sunday, 6 April 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link
nice one andy, will give these a listen when i get the chance, definitely needs to be more discussion of it here. the scene seems to be in a hyper-productive phase right now and i´m just not on top of things like i used to be unfortunately.
for now the only thing i can help you with is this from the carnao set:43.55 - ??? (vocal & piano thing, ‘My love and my touch’
haven´t listened to the set but its likely to be the andme & bastian remix of route 94´s My love, right?
― Benny B, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:51 (ten years ago) link
^^Thanks Benny - had a listen and it is that tune but not the AM & B mix, think it might actually be the original mix but just pitched up a bit.
Typically I've now managed to find the answers to a few of my own questions - 19.30 on the Majesty set is Majesty - Endless Words47.45 on the Majesty set is Majesty & Luke Larrell - They Want You (Matt Fear remix)33.45 on the Truce/Supa D set is Telepopmusik - Try Me Anyway (Dirty Channels remix)48.50 on the B3 set is Fluorescent Noise - Here I Am
― late nite tuff guy/early morning wimp (Mr Andy M), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
majesty set33.00 - ??? ('higher baby'. headstrong vibes)
is amine edge & dance remix of Destructo - Higher
― Benny B, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 23:32 (ten years ago) link
the one before it is great too, im hearing a MJ Thriller acapella over the top in my head. no idea what the tune is unfortunately.
― Benny B, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 23:44 (ten years ago) link
Thanks!7.05 on the Carnao set turns out to be Mr & Mrs Smith - Repercussions.
― late nite tuff guy/early morning wimp (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 10 April 2014 23:10 (ten years ago) link
from Lee Edwards set
41.05 - ??? (samples the ‘move to the vibe and know that you are blessed’ acapella)
X5 Dubs - Now Move
― Benny B, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 10:02 (ten years ago) link
As with other his earlier sets discussed above he has this real knack of making each track sound like a step up from whatever it's emerging out of, though I'm pretty sure this is an illusion.
― Tim F, Monday, 10 August 2015 08:54 (eight years ago) link
A little late, but "From Above" is really great! Only liking a pretty small percentage of this music overall.
This cutting shapes stuff is not how I would have imagined moving to it, but I guess that's pretty moot considering how unlikely it is I will be out dancing to this in clubs any time soon.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link
wait . . . did anyone know that Luke Larrell who did Serious People a k a the first Audio Rehab release a k a the first deep tech release was previously Flukes from Crazy Cousinz?? Just stumbled on this fact by accident here https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151919639114477&id=43921789476 and hadn't seen any mention of it
― gonzo84d, Monday, 17 August 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link
latest in k.flint's for promotional use only series https://soundcloud.com/k-flint/for-promotional-use-only-3
― gonzo84d, Thursday, 15 October 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
if anyone's still out there . . . Cooly G makes the Thump tracks of the year list . . . https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/the-50-best-tracks-of-2015
― gonzo84d, Friday, 11 December 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link
Self-promotion but I think my review (brutally shortened though it may have been) did a decent job of explaining the vibe of the release:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16809-this-aint-chicago-the-underground-sound-of-uk-house-and-acid-1987-1991/
― Tim F, Friday, 22 February 2013 22:38 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'm reckoning if you sub the ecstasy blear there for kanye style modern anomie & grime refugee aggro influence and then inject that into a confluence of the shuffling/shapes urban mnml scene and ejeca/waze & odyssey acid warehouse revival u might possibly have the ldn flavour to come
just saying like
― r|t|c, Friday, 22 February 2013 23:03 Bookmark
https://soundcloud.com/skreamizm/sets/techno-eski-ideas
― r|t|c, Saturday, 4 June 2016 13:07 (eight years ago) link
i'm not srsly rating myself for that before anyone gets funny :)
hopefully it may at least still come to pass that strange static/vybe/kg3 aren't making simultaneously the most crucial yet most irrelevant music ever though. recent stuff is mind-blowing and there just doesnt seem any place for it
― r|t|c, Saturday, 4 June 2016 13:29 (eight years ago) link
Eski techno = A+ hypothetical genre would bang all that shit.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 4 June 2016 13:30 (eight years ago) link
tbh the wishful hypothetical thing i'd most be taken with is some sort of amniotic melange biz drawing from the strange jazzy abstraction of that uk house and acid comp plus the more uncommon bits of that woebot 89-93 uk techno mix on the other thread. lil silva became larry heard so could arun verone become kirk degiorgio etc
basically the thought of if factmag will turn everything into idm then why not have that add up to something more not less idk
lol everyone i can dimly remember from the deeptech scene who began to make sort of interesting experimental guff like that (like imagemk, karlton phillips) has now deleted them off their soundclouds and went all linear zzz again
― r|t|c, Saturday, 4 June 2016 13:55 (eight years ago) link
whats the good non afrobeats non grime non factnerd uk dance music this year. is there a 2016 thread equiv i missed
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link
death by a thousand cuttin shapes
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 19 December 2016 01:00 (seven years ago) link
I for one have no clue.
― Tim F, Monday, 19 December 2016 01:08 (seven years ago) link
all these dead links make for one depressing thread!!
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 03:34 (three years ago) link
But “one track and minimal description to be greeted by the retching of grampas” really made me lol.
― Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 04:35 (three years ago) link
oh yah lots of good discourse ... just wish the mixes & tracks werent like , vanished
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link