Deafheaven

i mean, i don't know how that could be "meaningless" unless you just never experience this type of person, which is possible

I honestly can't think of a representative experience I've had that would fit the bill, which I daresay is, accordingly, helped by my being a guy

it may be that I'm really tone-deaf abt this kind of thing idk

iwant to make sure that my important opinions are recorded in this important thread so part 1 i dont give 2 fucks abt genrewhatever in metal or not etc but part 2 this band by the important metric of being any good is total goddamn garbage and i have no idea what people are digging about it.

amazing thread, i hope an npr podcast metal album comes out every six months

I'm still trying to unwrap exactly what we are arguing about at this point, but it's kinda hard to see for all the straw.

all I know is that I wanted to sing "Everlong" over the first song on the album

this thread is hilarious in a "grade-school playground bullshit except perpetrated by so-called adults" sort of way

how much do we gotta pony up to see that on YouTube DJP

and by hilarious i mean sad

alpine static otm

aaanyway, black metal is so over anyhow, 2K14 belongs to DARK JAZZ #darkjazz

otm #darkjazz

just got my deafheaven voicemail. I pitchshifted it down and put some trip-hop beats underneath it and wrote to several online publications demanding I be awarded metal album of the year

all I know is that I wanted to sing "Everlong" over the first song on the album

This is sort of why I like it, though. I think of it as an epic anthemic rock album, sort of like a screamy Siamese Dream. ("Everlong" is one of my favourite radio singles of the 90s so ymmv.)

there was zero judgment to that post btw

OTOH I did turn the song off and start playing Alcest, so make of that what you will

Oh great DJP, just trade in 2013's divise non-metal metal album for 2014's, that'll help us all.

just got my deafheaven voicemail. I pitchshifted it down and put some trip-hop beats underneath it and wrote to several online publications demanding I be awarded metal album of the year

― joe perry has been dead for years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, February 4, 2014 5:40 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cant wait for skot to publish his response to this email

now that dan says it, i kinda feel like "the colour & the shape" era foo fighters were sort of more influential on modern active rock bands in the long run than nirvana was

Oh great DJP, just trade in 2013's divise non-metal metal album for 2014's, that'll help us all.

^_^ happy to be of service!

Haha, hoping you picked up the humor intented in that one.

oh man come on, of course I did

Is it okay to casually dip into genres outside your main areas of interest without necessarily wanting to become an expert? Engels said that specialization is one of the great horrors of capitalist society, I think, and I don't think it's bad to be omnivorous in one's interests. This was an issue in the pitchfork thread too regarding a john fahey primer. My opinion on Deafheaven is coming from a different place than aero's or someone's but I don't think it's invalid or that I should prefer Mayhem or Celtic Frost to this or something.

You mean the inverse, surely

loving you for that engels quote treeship

Honestly, i love the ilx metal threads because they helped me discover a bunch of stuff i like such as darkthrone and uncle acid, the latter which led me to revisit sabbath. But I don't want to listen to as much metal as those guys do because I have a limited amount of time on earth.

inverse deafheaven, just imagine the possibilities

wouldn't "inverse Deafheaven" be Godspeed! You Black Emperor?

Hearinghell, more like.

the takeaway i've gotten from this thread beyond 'ok some of these ppl are doing a bit right? otherwise...' is apparently i should check out alcset

Which is, conincidentally, an up and coming Berlin power metal band. (xpost)

YES CHECK OUT ALCEST

also, the new Warpaint album is great for the first half before it runs out of energy

Would say that after it runs out of energy, there are a couple of great songs toward the end. But not the last one, imo.

Goddamn You! White Peasant is my summer jam of '14, out now on Hectic Lore

Penultimate track on Warpaint is beauty and truth

Is it okay to casually dip into genres outside your main areas of interest without necessarily wanting to become an expert?

no and you are a monster for even considering it

Alcestian Gatekeepers

Oh, look. Another discussion on genre that went nowhere.

Colour me shocked.

PS: I never got my Deafheaven voicemail. The BMers say I'm not BM enough, and the Deafheaveners say I'm not DF enough. Why can't I just be accepted by a group? Why can't I fit in? Argh. I'm going to go read more existiential literature and visit a cemetery now. No, no, FUCK FORGET EVERYTHING FASJFKASFSFS. I'll just wear corpsepaint and scream in the washroom and work on my melodrama.

true kvlt dudes dont use washrooms

watain didnt age all this animal blood for you just so you could go and give yourself a good scrub cmon dude

true kvlt dudes dont use washrooms

― Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Tuesday, February 4, 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you might try that Shining album from '06 then

"Trve Kvlts Don't Use Washrooms" - are the RHCP doing crossover BS too?

lol

bing a bing a a bing a bong burzum
gig a gig a gig a gong gorguts

bingo bango bongo his name is...wait, wrong thread

I stumbled across this quote from a user review at Metal Archives that struck me as relevant. It's actually about Agalloch, but says:

"One of black metal’s better points was the way it managed to be both artistic in spite of being thoroughly nonacademic -– it was primal as fuck and rather silly but nevertheless articulate -- and managing to blow off or ignore most of what makes radio music sound like it was poured into a mold before release. But it seems to be a continuing theme, especially recently, that the bands in the “metal scene” most frequently praised for their artistry and creativity are the ones who back away from the murkiness of underground metal and move back towards the mainstream’s idea of what artistic music sounds like."

morbid angel wore boots
death wore boots

― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Monday, 3 February 2014 23:06 (Yesterday) Permalink

as did fairies

it's hardly surprising, i think, that the deafheaven album would be widely loved by people who don't otherwise have much use for extreme metal. it's basically a sugary, shoegazey postrock album (albeit one scarred by black metal shrieking). sugary, shoegazey postrock has, as a subgenre, been well received by indie-friendly pop critics in recent years - and indie-friendly pop critics seem rather to dominate the discourse. that's the context in which sunbather seems to have succeeded. "metal" is relevant only in that the genre's current fashionability perhaps graces deafheaven with backstory and a bit of kvlt glamour. nothing wrong with any of that. the people who love it aren't "getting metal wrong"; they're probably getting shoegazey postrock right (i wouldn't know as i'm not an ardent appreciator, don't love alcest either).

this sort of thing is perennial. an album that hybridizes indie with something a bit more insular & cultish is wildly celebrated by indie fans and (consequently) becomes a hate-magnet for those who wish to distance themselves from what they see as a dilettantish circle-jerk. tbh, from where i sit, the backlash is much more tiresome than the hiveminded rush to embrace that precedes it. so what if sigur ros and smashing pumpkins fans love deafheaven? they should love deafheaven. sunbather was made for them.

my mom likes jesu & alcest, fwiw. i don't think she's arrogantly flaunting her ignorance in calling them better than all the other metal i listen to. she's just talking honestly about what she likes.

think i misspelled vhol up there. vohl. vhol. something like that.

^^ yup. (xpost ... and it's vhol)