Deafheaven

yall wanna ride for that be my guest

Part of what puts me off about this record and this band in general is how "I see what you did there" it is.

xps - i know, siggaroos got a accent too, but i won't be fucked outside BÖC & motörhead. they've earned it.

the backlash is much more tiresome than the hiveminded rush to embrace that precedes it

there was no backlash from me until this album placed in the ILM 77 and I gave it a listen, only to find it rly boring, and even then my backlash was only to say 'this is boring and uses what are imo rly worn-out songwriting tropes & thus i find no appeal in it' - this is the sentiment behind about 99% of the deafheaven backlash - there's a kind of anti-strawman strawman in play here of the tiresome trve kvlt metaller, which iirc nobody on ilx actually is

tell that to all the sacrificed goats in my basement

Imago OTM--it's the equivalent of calling someone who doesn't like Doo-Bop by Miles Davis a Wynton-style genre fascist

Doobopheaven

Doo-Bop fans are above your silly notions of jazz purity. You could really learn something from them.

http://image.lyricspond.com/image/m/artist-miles-davis/album-doo-bop/cd-cover.jpg

omg what is he even wearing

Boots

Inverted cheetah pajama pants.

Also trying to open a can of cat food with his trumpet.

...my backlash was only to say 'this is boring and uses what are imo rly worn-out songwriting tropes & thus i find no appeal in it' - this is the sentiment behind about 99% of the deafheaven backlash

this is a bit disingenuous, i think? speaking not about any individual but rather the "public response", there was a clear initial rush to embrace sunbather followed toward year's end by a lot of grumping. doubt that the latter would have been half so audible had not the former been so widespread. speaking as a grump...

I'm going to listen to Doo-Bop and enjoy myself because I'm open-minded like that. Have fun snapping your fingers solemnly to your Art Blakey first pressings played through your fussy tube amps.

imago -- didn't you gush about a gazillion post-rock bands in the first few years you were an ilxor?

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6114/31226125528904124505124.jpg

Counterpoint: they were in Florida. It's really not boot weather about six months of the year. You want as much ventilation as possible.

foxy storage

I'm surprised no one's brought up their defiantly un-BM lyrical subject matter yet.

Held my breath and drove through a maze of wealthy homes. I watched how green the trees were. I watched the steep walkways and the white fences. I gripped the wheel. I sweated against the leather. I watched the dogs twist through the wealthy garden. I watched you lay on a towel in grass that exceeded the height of your legs. I gazed into reflective eyes. I cried against an ocean of light

Crippled by the cushion, I sank into sheets frozen by rose pedal toes. My back shivered for your pressed granite nails. Dishonest and ugly through the space in my teeth. Break bones down to yellow and crush gums into blood. The hardest part for the weak was stroking your fingers with rings full of teeth..

It's 5 A.M...and my heart flourishes at each passing moment

Always and forever

The lyric "Break bones down to yellow and crush gums into blood." from "Sunbather" by Deafheaven has not yet been explained. To explain these lyrics, visit ...

Bones are yellow inside like bananas right?

"I'm surprised no one's brought up their defiantly un-BM lyrical subject matter yet."

The mind boggles at the level of bravery required for such defiance.

imago -- didn't you gush about a gazillion post-rock bands in the first few years you were an ilxor?

― sarahell, Tuesday, February 4, 2014 11:50 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this particular fallacy is called ad hominem btw

it's a Star Trek reference, Dr. "Bones" McCoy usually wore a blue shirt, and Captain Kirk's shirt was yellow, but here they are talking about breaking Dr. McCoy's will and making a coward of him.

there's yellow bone marrow, yes

feel like I'm in a bm band called Cannotgoogleheaven right now

this band sounds like the appleseed cast

― adam, Tuesday, February 4, 2014 6:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck man, do not sully the good name of the appleseed cast like this

this particular fallacy is called ad hominem btw

― imago, Wednesday, February 5, 2014 7:59 AM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark

No this is ad hominem. Your teeth are stupid and your hair smells and when you breathe out it smells like mustard

idgi what's the fallacy?

;-)

Part of what puts me off about this record and this band in general is how "I see what you did there" it is.

― Clarke B., Tuesday, February 4, 2014 6:24 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you are super-otm about this, as soon as the first song hits the first break and it's a warbly mbv-like guitar part i was like "ohhhhh-kay"

http://31.media.tumblr.com/d8174ee1f8b5706d56e54adf9e82a078/tumblr_mxohw07fAh1qa8qcjo1_500.png

true. that one melody sounds a lot like that cat stevens song as well. xpost

xp - hahahah!

That imagine is clever and I like it, but: "I could do that" is a very different sentiment from "You shouldn't have done that"

btw my li'l player thing hit me with Earth's Like Gold And Faceted earlier, and DAMMIT if that isn't the best metal shoegaze experience I've had, like, for a while

also, ad hominem is obv any attempt to defame an argumentalist's character, especially with regards to the field of argument. who the fuck cares if I like Redjetson aged 19

are people talking about neige's involvement with "aryan supremacy" in the wake of alcest blowing up? i know he has attempted to distance himself from that in one interview. just kind of wonder if it's coming up at all or if people just dont GAF

had never heard of it - elaborate!

he played on the peste noire album of that title, but was only ever an ancillary member of that band, if a member at all, and has since said publicly least once that he was never involved/interested in their political/idological crap

also ppl into alcest etc who are looking for recs, try Les Discrets

*ideological

oh! well i have their album 'folkfuck folie' but was never aware of their questionable leanings (whether or not they're aryan supremacists, it's perhaps an unhealthy fascination)

peste noire are not just questionable, they are explicitly racist

oh shit. well my brother gave me the mp3s amongst a shit-ton of other metal, kinda thinking i shd delete it now

kinda

'the burzum argument'

moved to trash

have put Ordo Ad Chao on, just to convince myself I'm still metal, also coz it's amazing and I've had a hankering to hear it all day thanks to this thread

xp to imago

i pretty much worship indria saray who played bass on several of their recordings, so it's hard for me to write off listening to those - it's complex, he's an asian dude that they had in the band for the fucked up reason that he made things smoother for them, like in situations where NS bands would see trouble, at certain border crossings etc. it's hard for me to lump him in with them and say "fuck them." i've never heard him speak on the matter at all tbh.