one of the post-avril songwriters (see also skye sweetnam, katy rose, come to think of it probably katy perry too) from the mid-00s that got about an album each
― katherine, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link
Skye Sweetnam! i think for the last few years all my vague memories of her started to get conflated with Sky Ferreira
― scott c-word (some dude), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link
"Dark Horse" is the first Katy Perry single in a long while that doesn't desperately beg you to fall in love with it on first listen; that alone makes it a nice departure. But it's a great song on its own merits, and given how no critics singled it out as an obvious mega-hit, I understand the dark horse narrative
― Evan R, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link
Isn't that sort of a case where critics are being dumb, considering that it was focused-grouped by her fans into being a single? I mean, I don't know the timeline so there's obvious overstatement going on there but when a megastar's large, rabid fanbase says "this is the song you should release as a single" and the artist does, should it take anyone by surprise that the single does well?
― Fight the Powers that Be with this Powerful Les Paul! (DJP), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link
I'm flummoxed by the need to make this into a story; as clickbait it appeals to, like, 12 people in the United States.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 19:45 (ten years ago) link
it's not really a story so much as it just hit no. 1
― katherine, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 19:48 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I mean, nobody should be surprised when any Katy Perry single does well, so it's hardly a man-bites-dog narrative. Just seems like people took to this one a little easier and more organically than is usually the case is all
― Evan R, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link
fans only had song titles and 30 second snippets to go on when "Dark Horse" was voted for over "Walking On Air," it's not like it was some powerful mandate. the reason it became a single is because radio stations were playing it without it being officially promoted for weeks and weeks before the label finally gave in and gave it an early release (only 2 months after "Unconditionally" instead of the standard 3 month window).
― scott c-word (some dude), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link
Also it had managed to sell nearly a million digital copies despite not being the official single being promoted.
― Greer, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 20:17 (ten years ago) link
it was selling unusually well too even before radio started tossing some spins its way. like, i know all the advance promo singles sold well for like a week or whatever but "dark horse" just kept on selling.
― dyl, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link
pop radio really does pay attention to single sales now. "Still Into You" would not have become an airplay hit 6 months after it was released if it was not doing steady numbers on iTunes that whole time.
― scott c-word (some dude), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 20:22 (ten years ago) link
The speed with which Unconditionally plummeted on radio once the next single was announced was funny. It was like programmers couldn't wait to stop playing it.
― Greer, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 20:24 (ten years ago) link
looool totally
― dyl, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link
I mean if you're a fan and you're going to be purchasing album tracks early it's probably going to be the one you rallied behind previously (plus, 30-second snippets are basically standard anymore)
― katherine, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link
xp US radio amazes me. It took six months for a song as strong as Still Into You to become an airplay hit?
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 20:34 (ten years ago) link
now that "unconditionally" has flopped by her standards i've begun to appreciate it
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 17:34 (ten years ago) link
haha i've heard it a couple times in the last week and been like "yup, this was terrible, glad i didn't have to hear this around the clock"
― kadeem hardsonned (some dude), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link
I didn't realize "English speakers who sing English as if it's their third/fourth language" was a pet peeve of mine until I heard "Unconditionally"
― Fight the Powers that Be with this Powerful Les Paul! (DJP), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
unconditionally makes me lol every single time
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 17:49 (ten years ago) link
of all the katy perrys of the world she's the katy perryest
I just can't stop listening to Birthday. It has everything I want from a pop song!
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 22 February 2014 03:58 (ten years ago) link
damn this album is so unfairly panned. at least 3 pop gems there.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 22 February 2014 15:29 (ten years ago) link
out of like 16 tracks? how is that not a terrible ratio
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 22 February 2014 16:02 (ten years ago) link
depending on your interpretation of "gems" vs. "hits" teenage dream had about the same ratio
― katherine, Sunday, 23 February 2014 00:51 (ten years ago) link
"dark horse" is kinda just a more tolerable version of "ET" isn't it
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 February 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link
Except with more trap and less aliens and less "All the Things She Sad".
― MarkoP, Monday, 24 February 2014 16:24 (ten years ago) link
Forget what u said. It's a pretty boring album except for roar, unconditionally, and the second track
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 24 February 2014 18:27 (ten years ago) link
*I
i hope to hear "birthday" on the radio sometime later this year but yeah most of the album was pretty forgettable
― dyl, Monday, 24 February 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link
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dont forget "moments in love"-style synths. shit is the jams.
― rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link
Spiritual is the real jam on this - love this droney bass during the verses (a bit of a smilar thing in Roar), could be a BoC instrumental.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 13:34 (ten years ago) link
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, February 24, 2014
^ this
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 14:11 (ten years ago) link
heard "Birthday" on the radio the other day, pretty glad if that's the next single
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link
http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201433/rs_600x600-140403124855-BkUj2rNCMAAXOQr.jpg
― Frontier Psychiatrist, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:41 (ten years ago) link
yeah "birthday" is the jam
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link
ridic
― surm, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link
Birthday and Walking on Air are the two takeaways for me from this album so I'm not mad I'll be hearing this on the radio instead of Black Horse.
― Greer, Thursday, 10 April 2014 02:40 (ten years ago) link
dark horse owns, into it way more than ET
― smooth hymnal (m bison), Thursday, 10 April 2014 02:42 (ten years ago) link
Quite like the new single but the new video is just horrible. Think it's a huge misfire on every level.
http://www.popjustice.com/videos/katy-perry-birthday/126562/
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 24 April 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link
yeah the video doesn't really work at all. it'll be a good radio jam anyway.
― dyl, Thursday, 24 April 2014 18:45 (ten years ago) link
tbf even with at least a handful of good/tolerable singles, "Teenage Dream" is still pretty much her only video that isn't embarrassing on several levels
― some dude, Thursday, 24 April 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link
Still can't deal w her voice. Very yelpy
― nova, Friday, 25 April 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link
Jeez- first MIA and now Katy Perry, what is his secret?
http://www.eonline.com/news/587471/katy-perry-keeping-her-relationship-with-diplo-undercover-find-out-why
― o. nate, Monday, 13 October 2014 03:38 (nine years ago) link
dating someone THAT famous seems like a minefield, i can't really fault anyone for trying to maintain some control and discretion tbh
― Raccoon Newsy Wewsies (some dude), Monday, 13 October 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link
you have to laugh at grown men sitting around listening to katy perry!
just my $0.02
― fuhgeddaboudit! (missingNO), Monday, 13 October 2014 07:42 (nine years ago) link
well consider your invitation to my boys-only katy perry listening circle rescinded
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 13 October 2014 09:00 (nine years ago) link
One of my born-again friends on fb is losing his shit today because the choir sang "Roar" in church this morning.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 May 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
lolol
― surm, Monday, 25 May 2015 03:43 (nine years ago) link
so i really want to like bonnie mckee but this is excruciating https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ6BRY16jHo
― big WHOIS aka the nameserver (s.clover), Friday, 8 January 2016 04:35 (eight years ago) link
"American Girl" was nothing if not excruciating (and "nothing" is a viable option)
― some dude, Friday, 8 January 2016 05:01 (eight years ago) link