that caught my eye too, especially since his last album's cover also used an art history 101 staple.
both paintings have mirrors in the background and if you look at the pictures uploaded on bandcamp, the cover of the actual CD for each is a magnified detail of the reflected image
― a chance to cross is a chance to score (anonanon), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link
I think this fellow might be my favourite artist currently operating. Vast Chains is beyond Discontinuities - well beyond it in fact; crazier, darker, more intense - above all, sustained. I'm fairly obsessed with it right now.
― Know Scot! Free Getaway: Glen, Handa Island, Rua Reidh (imago), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 23:36 (ten years ago) link
does this marginalize traditional black metal?
this is really cool, but I don't think it marginalizes anything -- rather, it ties things together. In this case, micro-tonality (and also a similar idea as lamont young had on the Well-Tuned Piano) and black/death metal. I only have heard the previous album thanks to imago recommendation, but on the whole, it doesn't seem as "rocking" (?) as, say, an old-school Gorgoroth or Darkthrone record, but the compositions are totally different. I mean, it sounds "composed", as opposed to banged out and pummelled via lofi production and blastbeats. Seems like something to listen to, at least first, rather than fall into. But it does hit hard, and I respect it going for the jugular. Anyway, really interested thus far.
― Dominique, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 23:49 (ten years ago) link
The way you guys are describing this music makes me want to listen to metal!
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 13 February 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link
technically more Terry Riley but definitely hear some Branca in here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2EGKt8yONIOrthrelm - OV
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 13 February 2014 00:17 (ten years ago) link
Yeah imago my impression is that Vast Chains is actually a step up too.
Note that in the liner notes it says it was made between 2011-12. I wonder if dude has two or three better albums in the can at this moment
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 13 February 2014 05:01 (ten years ago) link
I agree with what people have been saying about that new Jute Gyte, Discontinuities for me was easy to admire but hard to love, this one tempers the microtonal oddness with more tangible riffs and structures that make it just a bit more pleasing to listen to.
I'll second Orthrelm too, Mick Barr is a beast
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 13 February 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link
i wonder if they (jute gyte) go for kind of a droney doomy plod because it helps the micro-tones resonate and collide and pile up, seems like if they played faster, more rhythmically orthodox metal (of some non-doom style), it would get just cacophonous
― j., Friday, 14 February 2014 00:39 (ten years ago) link
o wait this next one's a lot more frantic
which makes for more of a no wavey sonic youthey chimey thing, with more 'unison' lines
― j., Friday, 14 February 2014 00:41 (ten years ago) link
mommy, i'm scared
― j., Friday, 14 February 2014 00:45 (ten years ago) link
this sounds like what people say sonic youth sounded like in the 80s
― j., Friday, 14 February 2014 00:48 (ten years ago) link
I'd dispute that it's a 'droney doomy plod' throughout - while the pace is rarely what you'd call hurried (Jute Gyte being of the 'let it stew slowly into shape' school of musical resolution) there are practically ambient passages interspersed with frantic, extremely noisy sections that are held back from cacophony not by sonic reserve but by excellent and thoughtful composition. The guitar tracks are overlaid with a great deal of care and technical precision, so that a certain clarity is always present even through walls of microtonal & polymetric distortion. I don't think the speed is what makes it listenable. Microtonal metal played in the blistering styles of Orthrelm or Deathspell Omega might also work, as both of those acts are similarly precise in their composition. I just think Adam K is a brilliant, brilliant songwriter who has found an incredible way to realise his visions.
oh xposts :D
― Know Scot! Free Getaway: Glen, Handa Island, Rua Reidh (imago), Friday, 14 February 2014 00:49 (ten years ago) link
i do think there's more of a lockstepping to the arrangements once they hit higher speeds, for the most part, but then speed confers a different sort of effect on the sounds, say, when they become relatively more repetitive, than at the slower speeds where things sound less repetitive, more lyrical
― j., Friday, 14 February 2014 00:53 (ten years ago) link
yes - at the slower speeds it has the feel of a great, slightly and deliberately disjointed engine, a lyrical treatise as you say - perhaps one that attempts to reveal the chaos immanent in order, or vice versa - but at greater speeds it has a more direct & annihilatory purpose, the pigfuck into gnostic oblivion, the menacing, chanting expression of an attempt to express whose moment has already flown (and yet, cruelly repeating - the repetition ensuring it wasn't just a passing thought but a state of perhaps permanent insanity)
the final track is a particular masterpiece as it manages to synthesis these two speeds into a single lumbering-yet-lightspeed manifesto, a wavering, confounding slab of sound. in fact I'd say this album achieves this synthesis to varying degrees throughout - and does so more successfully than its already-brilliant predecessor
the melodies here are so, so lovely, obv; so lovely and so blasted
― Know Scot! Free Getaway: Glen, Handa Island, Rua Reidh (imago), Friday, 14 February 2014 01:03 (ten years ago) link
that poor obliterated pig
― j., Friday, 14 February 2014 01:04 (ten years ago) link
this track is pretty badass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVWF__KVJHs
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Sunday, 16 February 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link
mentioned elsewhere, but i just ordered CD-Rs of the last two joots off dude's bandcamp. he looks to have more than 20 full albums available, all currently in print on CD-R & avail for download. anyone dug back beyond the recent "microtonal black metal" stuff? loving discontinuities and vast chaing, but content to explore there for the moment.
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Sunday, 16 February 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link
hobo chaing ba
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Sunday, 16 February 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link
theres a ton on Spotify
― ۩, Sunday, 16 February 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
The Jute Gyte music seems interesting but the vocals suck-diddly-uck. I have download links for the two new ones but haven't used them yet because of that.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 16 February 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
interesting interview with Adam K:
http://thegrindthatannoys.com/2014/03/27/jute-gyte-interview/
― what goes in vegans stays in vegans (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 11:53 (ten years ago) link
Rivalling the Jute Gyte album imo:https://soundcloud.com/flenserrecords/sets/botanist-vi-flora?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=facebook
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 16 August 2014 04:01 (ten years ago) link
Better link:https://soundcloud.com/flenserrecords/sets/botanist-vi-flora
Yes! The new Botanist album is so fucking majestic and moving. I love it. Gives me a Branca vibe big time.
― Bloody Pelt Found Near the Scene of the Crime (Skrot Montague), Saturday, 16 August 2014 13:39 (ten years ago) link
okay I'm way into Botanist
― ODB's missing grammy (bernard snowy), Saturday, 16 August 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link
"tags: metal avant-garde black metal experimental hammered dulcimer San Francisco"
could this be the album to finally bring my mother into the black metal fold???
― ODB's missing grammy (bernard snowy), Saturday, 16 August 2014 17:05 (ten years ago) link
yeah that's amazing
reminded me of the latest MBV album a bit
― i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Saturday, 16 August 2014 19:51 (ten years ago) link
Hm, maybe I should actually listen to the MBV then. (And, yes, Botanist's stuff is almost all done on amplified hammered dulcimer.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 18 August 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link
my GF called Botanist "dream metal" when I played it the other day, which is roughly 1000x better as a genre name than "blackgaze"
― ODB's missing grammy (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
idk i love the name "blackgaze", sounds p metal - gazing into the depths of blackness
― Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 19:12 (ten years ago) link
Sund4r, I'm mostly referring just to the last three tracks of the MBV album, which are so good it makes me wonder why the whole album isn't like that
― i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link
I also think I prefer 'blackgaze', maybe amended to 'blackgauze', for that is the secret to the word shoegaze's success. Botanist as 'dream metal' rather than blackga(u)ze I'd entirely agree with, though - it's coming from a slightly different place to yer Deafheavens and whatnot. It's much weirder, much more psychedelic.
― i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link
~muslimgaze~
like darkthrone, but w/ islam somehow
― j., Tuesday, 19 August 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link
you're practically inviting me to google 'islamic black metal' and then make a trite infographic about it
― i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 19:25 (ten years ago) link
i was wondering where ppl were talking about botanist. this new album is the shit.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link
btw, for islamic black metal start here
oh yeah I recall you showed me a few (some impromptu copyediting iirc). ty!
― i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link
that's just a link to a search i made to keep up w/ ~MENA metal
― Mordy, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/user/SpaceBlackMetal/videosI have a feeling I'll be hitting this stuff heavily while I wait for Darkspace IV IIII to drop
― ODB's missing grammy (bernard snowy), Monday, 25 August 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
oh wait, wrong thread? I know people were discussing Darkspace somewhere recently--mighta been on the Deafheaven thread
― ODB's missing grammy (bernard snowy), Monday, 25 August 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link
it was. I basically rep for them whenever the (solar) winds change
― imago, Monday, 25 August 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link
darkspace aren't branca metal tho, they're totally space-bm as the youtube name implies. nobody else does it remotely so well
― imago, Monday, 25 August 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link
they can play here tho coz this thread is basically about the awesomest metal
― imago, Monday, 25 August 2014 21:36 (ten years ago) link
now playing: Polish band 'Cold Womb Descent' because o_O that name........this is pretty chill but the drumming is hella-weak/synths way too forward in the mix
next up: Celestial Oblivion, "Prison Without Walls"
whoever curates this youtube channel is a hero, obviously
― ODB's missing grammy (bernard snowy), Monday, 25 August 2014 21:45 (ten years ago) link
it's kind of blowing my mind right now to see how many bands are out there following the Darkspace blueprint with minor variations in production quality & use of movie samples....... do we need a dedicated a space-black-metal thread? because I am determined to find the diamonds in the rough
Celestial Oblivion was a lot more interesting, structurally & texturally. have now moved on to Galaktik Cancer Squad, whose buzzy Switched-On Bach synth harmonies are about the farthest thing imaginable from the images conjured by that name. enjoyable!
― ODB's missing grammy (bernard snowy), Monday, 25 August 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link
i dunno i was listening to darkspace the other day and it sounded like a less-committed / less-ecstatic paysage d'hiver. later parts sounded a bit more spacy/malevolent, but.
― j., Monday, 25 August 2014 22:00 (ten years ago) link
lol i just realized upon doing some googling that that dude is in darkspace. sonic signature, check.
― j., Monday, 25 August 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link
just recalled the other space-BM band I'll really ride for: Progenie Terrestre Pura. check 'em out if you can bernard
― imago, Monday, 25 August 2014 23:02 (ten years ago) link
here
http://progenieterrestrepura.bandcamp.com/album/u-m-a
it is sick
plus i'm in italy rn so forza PTP
― imago, Monday, 25 August 2014 23:05 (ten years ago) link
(it's probably closer to, say, Ocean Machine-era Devin Townsend than Darkspace, but this should be of equal encouragement)
― imago, Monday, 25 August 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link