OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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Great on American music, clueless about European music is how I approach Bangs.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 20 February 2014 11:34 (ten years ago) link

I read this book over the weekend and I see how good a job Greil Marcus did of getting LB’s genuinely great writing into the first anthology. “Great on American music”? Have a look at his article about Wet Willie.

Greil "when I said 'what is this shit' I actually meant..." Marcus.

Mark G, Thursday, 20 February 2014 11:54 (ten years ago) link

lol @ their argument against my weeknd review. SORRY YOUR CRYBABY DRUGGO SEXIST MAKES AWFUL MUSIC THAT CAN BE DEMOLISHED SUCCINCTLY. editing: maybe abel should try it sometime

maura, Thursday, 20 February 2014 15:19 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, well no one is forcing you to listen to this thing in one sitting.

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Thursday, 20 February 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link

Hardly think that makes a difference. A lot of his songs don't justify their length.

tsrobodo, Thursday, 20 February 2014 17:22 (ten years ago) link

This guy really hates xhuxk

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Thursday, 20 February 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

This guy hates everybody. You have to worry about anyone who can write 500+ angry entries without any jokes.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 20 February 2014 18:24 (ten years ago) link

The writing about "the 500 worst pieces of music writing ever" is one of the worst pieces of music writing ever. Another lazy, entitled parasite who only wants writing that agrees with them.

― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 20 February 2014 09:18 (9 hours ago) Permalink

OTM. I actually kind of enjoy what another poster upthread called "clueless" reviews of "future classics. It's refreshing to see that someone listening to a "classic" record with fresh ears, at the time, might have come to a different conclusion about it, even if I don't agree with that conclusion. And sometimes there are nuggets of honest truth in them that get kind of buried in all the worshipfulness that comes later, e.g. the bit about Hendrix's lyrics being pretty banal. That's often true.

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Thursday, 20 February 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link

It IS fun to have an archive of notable initial reactions from RS to scroll back through.

Evan, Thursday, 20 February 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, well no one is forcing you to listen to this thing in one sitting.

― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:26 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hardly think that makes a difference. A lot of his songs don't justify their length.

― tsrobodo, Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:22 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nah, was just quoting the writer's witty retort to Maura's review.

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Thursday, 20 February 2014 19:34 (ten years ago) link

― tsrobodo, Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:22 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nah, was just quoting the writer's witty retort to Maura's review.

Aah I see, my bad. Didn't actually read past the first 3 or 4. The idea of 500 petty and vindictive reviews of other people's reviews depresses me in ways that I don't understand.

tsrobodo, Thursday, 20 February 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link

there's the new board description

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 February 2014 22:53 (ten years ago) link

The idea of 500 petty and vindictive reviews of other people's reviews depresses me in ways that I don't understand

depresses me in ways i understand completely. it's fucking depressing, for one thing. might be worth a glance if the takedowns were funny, but they're not - just reams of whiney bullshit about nothing.

contenderizer, Friday, 21 February 2014 06:36 (ten years ago) link

i don't know why you gotta drag whiney into this.

eric banana (s.clover), Friday, 21 February 2014 06:55 (ten years ago) link

contenderizer otm

you are clinically deaf and should sell you iPod (stevie), Friday, 21 February 2014 07:43 (ten years ago) link

Speaking of Rolling Stone, this seemed to get a lot of people into a tizzy: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/berghain-the-secretive-sex-fueled-world-of-technos-coolest-club-20140206

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 21 February 2014 08:03 (ten years ago) link

using the descriptor "emo" as a test case I think we still have at least five years before the kind of ppl who comment just to go DON'T CALL IT EDM accept that they're fighting a losing battle

imago bantz and the deems context (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 February 2014 08:11 (ten years ago) link

I think that RS article is great, taught me a lot about Berlin I didn't know.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 21 February 2014 08:57 (ten years ago) link

HERE'S a new candidate. And it's from the editor, even.

http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/alex-turners-brits-speech-was-everything-rocknroll-is-meant-to-be

Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 February 2014 12:31 (ten years ago) link

lock thread

micah, Friday, 21 February 2014 14:04 (ten years ago) link

As I said on the Brits thread, it's a bit inelegantly put, but I do think the writer has a point.

best thing is that it never explains who the hell Alex Turner is

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 21 February 2014 14:11 (ten years ago) link

that is good because 99.9% of people reading would know

nashwan, Friday, 21 February 2014 14:13 (ten years ago) link

best thing is that it never explains who the hell Alex Turner is

except... it does?

sent as gassed to onto rt dominance (DJP), Friday, 21 February 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link

(or were you looking for more than "front man of Arctic Monkeys who won the biggest music award given out by Great Britain"?)

sent as gassed to onto rt dominance (DJP), Friday, 21 February 2014 14:35 (ten years ago) link

I don't see that sentence in the piece.

I see this: "For the frontman of the UK's biggest band"

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 21 February 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link

I got that from the title of the Youtube embed.

I mean, I'm not arguing that this is an amazing piece of writing or anything, just that that particular criticism seems off when the entire thesis of the piece seems to be "this dude who won an award gave a speech"

sent as gassed to onto rt dominance (DJP), Friday, 21 February 2014 14:55 (ten years ago) link

whowhatwhenwherewhyhow

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 21 February 2014 14:56 (ten years ago) link

Which is not what any of the thesis of the piece is (xp).

New Yorker style required: "Recently, Alex Turner, the frontman of Arctic Monkeys, an alternative rock band from Sheffield, England, accepted an award at a ceremony held annually by the British Phonographic Industry, colloquially known as the Brits."

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 21 February 2014 14:59 (ten years ago) link

Turner hereafter referred to as Mr Turner.

you are clinically deaf and should sell you iPod (stevie), Friday, 21 February 2014 15:03 (ten years ago) link

just the words "Arctic" and "Monkeys" appearing somewhere in the piece would have been just fine.

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 21 February 2014 15:05 (ten years ago) link

Last year he spoke a lot about the writing style of John Lennon of The Beatles

Mark G, Saturday, 22 February 2014 00:15 (ten years ago) link

ha ha Alex Turner is as famous as John Lennon I get it

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Saturday, 22 February 2014 01:48 (ten years ago) link

i just love that the famous rock star industry is in such dire straits that the fucking arctic monkeys are the best torchbearers anyone could scrounge up

kinda like ten years ago when the white stripes were the only modern band big american mags felt comfortable putting on the cover

a commentary on self-absorbed youth culture in the social media age (zachlyon), Saturday, 22 February 2014 02:43 (ten years ago) link

Jack's a pretty great "rock star" though - eccentric, idiosyncratic style, good interviewee, intriguing "concept". Arctic Monkeys dude is just A N Other indie bloke, albeit one who somehow got Josh Homme's cellphone number.

you are clinically deaf and should sell you iPod (stevie), Saturday, 22 February 2014 08:43 (ten years ago) link

thank you, i thought i was going mad for a while there

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 February 2014 08:45 (ten years ago) link

where can I purchase this speech

Hongro4/4Ass (wins), Saturday, 22 February 2014 09:51 (ten years ago) link

could do with having my faith in "rocknroll" restored

Hongro4/4Ass (wins), Saturday, 22 February 2014 09:52 (ten years ago) link

forks, just because someone read something out loud on youtube you saw doesn't make it true

wavy tare's cashout flicks (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 02:18 (ten years ago) link

What's with the arctic monkey's Fonzie hair? Is he a "ted"?

sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 03:31 (ten years ago) link

I remember when they first came out they looked like kids who would go to a midnight opening to buy a ps3

sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 03:32 (ten years ago) link

Whiney, did u really try to call me out as being a dillettante with a whosampled.com link?

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 04:48 (ten years ago) link

submitted for your approval:

http://www.rockfreaks.net/albums/6720

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:52 (ten years ago) link

reads like it has been Google-translated from another language

Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link

even parke puterbaugh nods

j., Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:59 (ten years ago) link

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