HAIM

So good.

I like the facial expression on the guy playing the drums.

clapping is key

awesome

go haim

Love, love, LOVE this. I'm ashamed to say I hadn't paid enough attention to HAIM in time for the 2013 poll, but I'm definitely gonna be voting for this next time. I just love this band.

it's one of my favourite songs on the album but the video is nothing special, is it ?
the dancing is meh and the "stage" part has the same inspiration as the strokes "last nite" video, for instance (but less fun).
the clapping is good though.

it's got great lighting and lots of cool shots

hum. I prefer the groove in the nature of "falling" or the dancing in the shop/bicycle riding of "forever", for instance.
very cool song anyway.
I haven't listened to the album for a while but the song that I didn't like a lot at first and is finally one of my favourites is "running if you call my name".
Love the chord change and the opening of the song toward the end.
The are moments when I swear I hear Lindsay Buckingham in the vocal harmonies !

Is there any chance they could have a pop hit with this song? They seem to have been coded as "indie" for some reason, but if this song came on a pop radio station it wouldn't sound any more out of place than the Lorde or Lana Del Rey songs they play all the time.

The best HAIM byproduct is handwringing "rants" like these, never get enough: http://www.antiquiet.com/music/2014/02/haim-if-i-could-change-your-mind-video/

what the fuck is antiquiet

Just had a brief dream about H&M teaming up with HAIM for a new product line

i'm sure it wasn't meant this way, but "it’s the same exact shit, except some hipster rabbi somewhere waved a magic indie dildo over it and called it kosher" is a creepy thing to say about 3 jewish sisters.

was just about to post that exact line, except that I think it was meant in exactly that way

I mean, how else are we supposed to read that?

yeah, that also struck me as weird... not to say more.

and the entertainment industry...

At Antiquiet, we very much pride ourselves in cutting through the shit and telling it like it is

We’re just calling it like we see it, for better or worse.

every single person in the world who 'tells it like it is' or 'is just being honest for your own good' is always a DICK

I find their ability to channel/mimic the late '80s and early '90s so uncanny, not least because they were all born in the late '80s and early '90s.

they take huge risks and have the courage to tell the truth about this vehicule of (cultural) domination that is HAIM. the world is not ready. in the meantime : vive la résistance !

I mean, how else are we supposed to read that?

my guess is that it's based on the popular misconception that kosher status is arbitrarily determined by whether a rabbi blesses the food or not... but yeah.

is there such a thing as a hipster rabbi ? ironic religion ?

that line was truly awful and gross

Jesus, that's a terrible takedown. On behalf of all HAIM haters, I apologise

nah buddy you and Skwerl are in this together

don't know if the super secret Jewish hipster cabal will give them a pass on this one or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJzJMOC_0IU

http://www.elkerevasudin.com/project/hipsters-hassids/

It is kinda funny that you've (or at least AleXTC has) twisted it so that defending a multiplatinum (or whatever) pop-rock act is 'the resistance', lol

The problem with that takedown, other than being offensive and a bit dim, is that it claims HAIM exist along a reductive dichotomy that fails to recognise their deeper influences. It wants to dismiss HAIM as pop in rock's clothes, but it's in fact within a very specific pop-rock lineage. The fact I dislike this lineage as with most conservative AOR is irrelevant to the article's awfulness

oh you

i was just fucking with you

Does "pop-rock" exist as a sub-genre anymore?

oh yeah, me too, of course. I meant antiquiet think they are the resistance against the evil hispter rabbi appointed HAIM !

Somehow this thread has now got me listening to Weird Al's "Pretty Fly for a Rabbi".

The reason I like Haim over that mainstream pop star they compared them to is that the song(s) actually have rhythm, and they are actually arranged well, with handclaps and funky guitar and those clicky drum sticks. I think they get some flack for all of this extra stuff but I like it, and it's not just there to sound complex. It all goes with the song, with the rhythm. Comparatively, the super big pop hits are robotic and bodyless (lousy dance music).

When someone can't see what factors intrinsic to the music (as opposed to press attitudes or positioning) make Haim significantly different from producer-led pop then it says a lot about their POV. (Not that there's anything wrong with producer-led pop per se)

Well, there's a musical identity and personality at work here that a lot of producer-led pop lacks, imo. Like, I recognize that all the usual suspects bring something to their tracks, but I also feel most of their hits would have been hits for whomever. Haim doesn't sound like the last optional ingredient in their own recipe the way a lot of pop stars do (to me).

also haim sounds a lot more like fleetwood mac than miley cyrus

If Haim really are just manufactured pop then I hope we can expect to see Ms Main Haim's love of ridiculously extended guitar solos (esp. live) picked up by Katy Perry et al in the next twelve months or so.

So "Forever" is on the alt-rock airplay chart now? Seems weird that they're now picking up on a track that was like two years and five singles ago.

Honestly, who gives a fuck if HAIM are 'really' manufactured pop or not. The question itself bothers me. That piece is so obviously rockist.

Is preferring Miley Cyrus over Haim the new rockism?

no it's the new Aphex Twin

can someone please post a photo of haim wearing a miley t-shirt, on which miley is seen wearing an aphex twin t-shirt?

This song really is amazing - easily my favorite song of last year (and this one so far).

The whole thing is just so fearless and unconcerned with indie trappings which reminds me the most of New Order's approach during the mid 80s (although it's as if Haim are living in the 80s so it's not quite as avant-garde - although it could be looked at as a baton pass across the decades).

Also, the songwriting and arrangement is just incredibly professional - almost like a golden age musical. Every hook, every flourish just belongs. It's very Hollywood (or rather the children and grandchildren of Hollywood who live in the studio adjacent parts of the valley).

A comparison I'm always drawing in my mind is with Cut Copy's 'In Ghost Colours' which I love and I think attempts to mine a similar moment from a dance/track perspective. That said when listening back to back, Cut Copy sounds a little more held back by indie (and indie-dance) conventions.

I think a lot of the knee-jerk criticism is with some of the obviously 80s instrumentation, especially the bells, chimes and percussion (which in 2013 shared a lot with PSB's 'Electric').

Doesn't this song half share a melody with new order's ruined in a day ?

good catch!

doing Beyoncé's XO:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01svkc4