Just picked up Out There over the weekend for my first ever dip into his solo work. I'm excited.
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link
Out There is incredible - one of our house's most played LPs. The cello / bass combo is something more people should have done.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 15:58 (ten years ago) link
otm. Ron Carter's Where? has a similar lineup: Carter, Duvivier, Dolphy, but with Charlie Persip and Mal Waldron.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 16:04 (ten years ago) link
i'm still waiting for more cello/guitar recs!
http://ecmreviews.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/improvisations-for-cello-and-guitar1.jpg
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link
I kinda don't like Eric's solo on the "Out There" title cut very much - he keeps playing that one dipsy-doodle lick over and over for several bars at a time, like he's killing time while thinking of what to play next. Maybe it wouldn't sound that way if Haynes/Duvivier weren't so committed to 4/4, I dunno...
But yeah, still a very cool-sounding lineup in total.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 16:14 (ten years ago) link
thisssshttps://vimeo.com/105420482
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 14:55 (nine years ago) link
Woah.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
did any other jazz musicians ever get into the bass clarinet? or did they just stay away from it because dolphy was so amazing.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
that's the track that got me into him, love it
― sleeve, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
did any other jazz musicians ever get into the bass clarinet?
Byard Lancaster has some stunning moments on Bill Dixon's Intents and Purposes. And Harry Carney, John Gilmore, and Peter Brötzmann have all used it at one time or another, but none as their primary instrument.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link
cool, will have to seek those out... i really like the sound dolphy gets out of it! was listening to "spiritual" from coltrane's village vanguard box yesterday too, so good.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link
Bennie Maupin on Bitches Brew!
― mizzell, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link
oh yeah that's right! guess maupin breaks it out w/ hancocka bit too.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link
hancocka!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
David Murray on a buncha stuff, but especially Jack DeJohnette's Special Edition.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4m9RsRucuM
― Ari (whenuweremine), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
jfc I only today learned how the man died. Now I'm fucking angry.
In 1964, Dolphy fell into a coma due to undiagnosed/untreated diabetes in Berlin. He was a teetotaler who didn't smoke, but docs, hearing he played jazz, assumed he'd OD'd and didn't even take a blood test. He died at 36 for absolutely no reason https://t.co/CiAlZYeTzA— jo livingstone (@Jo_Livingstone) June 29, 2020
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link
jeez
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 03:47 (three years ago) link
Shocking waste of a life. Monk and Powell also had some very rough treatment by cops and doctors who decided a few rounds of electroconvulsive therapy might make them better!
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 08:36 (three years ago) link
I forgot to add the clubs to head therapy from the cops as well.
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 08:43 (three years ago) link
cops & their psychiatric equivalents basically destroyed monk’s career and life, it’s amazing he got anything done
on dolphy, he gets respect but still feels underrated somehow, maybe bc he didn’t start an obvious “movement”, falls somewhere between bop and “free” with most of playing, recorded lots of his best stuff as sideman. had he lived he would have certainly gone to wilder places, was planning collaboration with ayler, would have done ascension etc. I would also have liked to hear him with/against mid-60s sonny rollins, maybe in the band with don cherry. and an anthony braxton style solo album with all his instruments would have been amazing
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:04 (three years ago) link
dolphy solo recordings: inner flight 1 & 2 (flute), tenderly (alto), various god bless the childs (bass clarinet)- any more?
also did he play regular clarinet anywhere except for that one track on “out there”?
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:14 (three years ago) link
I dunno about solos, but i'll always rep for Where and The Quest which are others albums with a lot of Dolphy greatness on them
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:29 (three years ago) link
not had a good Dolphy listening spree for years now, sounds like a plan!
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:36 (three years ago) link
He plays clarinet on "Warm Canto" on "The Quest". There's a Dolphy docu on YouTube called "Last Date".
― EvR, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link
on dolphy, he gets respect but still feels underrated somehow, maybe bc he didn’t start an obvious “movement”, falls somewhere between bop and “free” with most of playing, recorded lots of his best stuff as sideman. had he lived he would have certainly gone to wilder places, was planning collaboration with ayler, would have done ascension etc. I would also have liked to hear him with/against mid-60s sonny rollins, maybe in the band with don cherry. and an anthony braxton style solo album with all his instruments would have been amazing― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:04 (eight hours ago) link
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:04 (eight hours ago) link
I don't usually get too hung up on artists who passed early & wondering what could have been but Dolphy does feel like for all of the greatness he produced in his lifetime he was only getting started and he that he set a template for so many horn players who followed him (playing multiple different instruments for inst) and that he already had formed a relationship with the early Euro free scene (Mengelberg & Bennink on Last Date), who knows he could've been making records with Derek Bailey & Brotzmann as well.
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link
so damned sad
"Jazz on a Summer's Day," a concert film of the 1958 Newport Jazz Festival, has a couple of brief scenes of Dolphy playing with the Chico Hamilton Quintet ... it was on TCM recently
― Brad C., Tuesday, 30 June 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link
He has always been my favorite jazz soloist.
― gnarled and turbid sinuses (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link
another great album with some prime Dolphy is Max Roach's Percussion Bitter Sweet.
― calzino, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 11:25 (three years ago) link
the lyrics to the vocal track Mendacity (with nice Dolphy solo) still ring true (politicians are a bunch of cunts).
― calzino, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 11:31 (three years ago) link
Eric Dolphy is definitely one of the great tragedies in an art form that's had far too any. It's very possible he hadn't reached his full potential which is simply astonishing when we have a masterpiece like Out to Lunch. With the loss of Coltrane and Dolphy and what they were beginning to explore with the possibilities opened up by free jazz, the loss is pretty immense. It would've been fascinating to see how things would've played out in the coming decade.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link
TIL Eric Dolphy recorded Ornette Coleman’s “Free Jazz” and his own “Far Cry” on the same day. And at two studios separated by a ~30 min drive, no less. Just incredible!— Ezra Brooks (@ezbrooks) November 25, 2020
― calzino, Thursday, 26 November 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link
two of the best purchases I've made this year were two double LP reissues from the early 70's, one just called Dolphy which includes Out There and Outward Bound, and another called Copenhagen Concert which is vols 1 and 3 of Live in Europe. On Prestige, they sound amazing and can be found for bargain prices (I paid $10 a piece). You don't get the cool original artwork but you do get some liner notes.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 14 January 2024 18:13 (five months ago) link
i have that same Copenhagen Concert 2xLP. it's awesome and sounds so good
― budo jeru, Monday, 15 January 2024 04:01 (five months ago) link