See, the thing is...
If I started a vaguely humorous blog about music, I might get a bunch of youse to have a butchers at it every so often.
Beyond that, who cares?
But then again, if I actually managed to get a 'readership', I daresay a bunch of people might decide to criticise what I say, but as I have no actual qualifications to prove or disprove my standpoint, most would not care either way.
If I got described as 'faux-naif', I think I'd pack it in.
But that's unlikely to happen, is it? Being described as faux-naif, I mean.
― Mark G, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:22 (ten years ago) link
Treeship, go post on the fucking Saddle Creek board or something
― perfect puppy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link
cool
― Treeship, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link
i don't get the term "faux-naif". sometimes it seems like people use this term to describe people who are just being upfront about the stuff they don't know, and in my view the best nonfiction writing does that.― Treeship, Monday, March 17, 2014 12:46 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Treeship, Monday, March 17, 2014 12:46 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
get on our level already, you've been here long enough, i'm not buying this
― perfect puppy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link
even the most cloying faux-naive voice is a million times more tolerable than certain message-board standbys like oh I don't know
get on our level
― (or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link
http://typophile.com/files/ryan%20get%20on%20my%20level.jpg
― Evan, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:41 (ten years ago) link
treeship do you even lift?
― balls, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link
Jeez guys the term is "falsely naive"
― continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link
Is there a thread categorizing the types of forum posts
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:52 (ten years ago) link
guys the term is credulity-frontin'
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link
the hardman crew reserve the right to get their terms wrong in order to demonstrate their hardman bona fides
― (or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 17 March 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link
faux sure
― coops all on coops tbh (crüt), Monday, 17 March 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link
lol
― Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Monday, 17 March 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link
idk maybe i'd be less salty about this if there were like more women who knew their shit writing about music and having it shared all over the place. MAYBE! </naïf>
― maura, Monday, 17 March 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wrL9z3Kvww
― maura, Monday, 17 March 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link
sorry, i'm so salty, Treeship
tough love
*hugs*
― perfect puppy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 March 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link
you catch more flies with honey, WGW
― waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 17 March 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link
ime the type of ppl sharing this and going nuts over it are mostly dudes who are really proud when their hobbies are seen as weird or inscrutable
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Monday, 17 March 2014 18:45 (ten years ago) link
whatever, music is weird. *giggles*
― eric banana (s.clover), Monday, 17 March 2014 18:46 (ten years ago) link
ime, it's you guys
― post-nodern music player (wins), Monday, 17 March 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link
This is not humming music, but then it does start sounding like a familiar patriotic song that I can’t put my finger on, but still really messy and almost like a band doing sound check. It also occasionally sounds like the trumpet that’s played before a hunt or a horse race.
'sounding like a familiar patriotic song that I can't put my finger on' is a good way to describe some of ayler's compositions, and the idea of the trumpet functioning like a kind of call to arms - a summoning - is gd, too, it just kind of gets buried under a lot of more ho-hum stuff.
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 17 March 2014 18:54 (ten years ago) link
Can we all just take a minute to salute those writers who strike the old "disarming honesty" pose have the courage to stand up and say "know what? I don't know everything." Sure, they risk the ridicule of snarky internet bullies, but in admitting their shortcomings aren't these authors more human, more humble, more - goshdarn it, I'll say it - more noble?
― post-nodern music player (wins), Monday, 17 March 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
are you being serious?
― perfect puppy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link
everything
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link
in the era of Google, anyone writing for a paycheck — no matter how small — that plays what Maura calls "unfrozen caveman rock critic" deserves the ridicule they get
― perfect puppy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link
ILX, where "admitting your blind spots" is a controversial stance.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:04 (ten years ago) link
now i may just be a simple country hyper chicken but
― eric banana (s.clover), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:05 (ten years ago) link
the courage to take the time to learn things before you write them
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:05 (ten years ago) link
also idk this is almost too immaterial to really say but the popularity of this tumblr is going to determine the tone and quality of writing elsewhere
My Husband's Stupid Record Collection Happened To Me
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link
Lol whiney what the hell level are you even on
― post-nodern music player (wins), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:12 (ten years ago) link
since time immemorial whiney has been on that other level
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link
It's not like I was being subtle about it
― post-nodern music player (wins), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link
― continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, March 17, 2014 12:51 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
can't we just keep pretending it means "honestly naive" or whatever the hell Treeship is thinking it does
― have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:16 (ten years ago) link
tbrr tho she's not being "falsely naive"/faux-naif but "deliberately ignorant", the tone of the piece is written about 'look how ignorant I am about this music'; a writer being proud of one's ignorance is not something that even WGW is above
― continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link
If you pretend you have no knowledge or context, you can't be held to account when you screw up though, right? (Yes, you can.) It's one of the worst aspects of that style.
― have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link
Could we admit that there's a difference between "admitting one's blind spots" and "deliberate ignorance"?
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link
I don't think anyone is denying that
― have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:25 (ten years ago) link
I feel where Maura is coming from on this, but at the same time, having a big dumb record collection is a thing that skews so heavily male and is treated by record-collecting men as some kind of mysterious male talisman, and I feel like there's an aspect of this of demystification that I like. The sort of stereotypical "female" perspective whether you want to call it naive or faux-naive seems like a good tool for that job. I get that any amateur could just review records in an uninformed and amateurish way, but the fact that she is tackling "The Collection" seems like part of the point.
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link
I don't think it's a great look but I think it emerged as a reaction to the much more prevalent tendency to act like everything can be reduced to its context. That's the context for the faux naif bloggy voice imo. It's about wanting to step outside the critical noise machine and make empirical observations as if for the first time.
― Treeship, Monday, 17 March 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link
Think it's more about feeling like there's something intellectually dishonest about pretending to have a depth of knowledge about things you googled for half an hour.
― tsrobodo, Monday, 17 March 2014 19:34 (ten years ago) link
xpost
http://www.cultbritannia.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2001-Baby-Earth.jpg
― perfect puppy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:35 (ten years ago) link
that too
― Treeship, Monday, 17 March 2014 19:35 (ten years ago) link
Sorry my last post was xp to tsrobodo.
― Treeship, Monday, 17 March 2014 19:36 (ten years ago) link
Can we all agree that the most insufferable comment came from the husband
Alex Says: Even though I have 2 AC/DC records, I don’t really know their music all that well. I just collect records. It’s what I do. So I have two AC/DC records. Deal with it.I’m pretty sure I bought this album off my old pal Michael Troutman, mostly because I was very familiar with Will Oldham’s weird cover of Big Balls, and I was like “ok, I’ll check it out.”
― have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:51 (ten years ago) link
100% yes
― waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:53 (ten years ago) link
uggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
― perfect puppy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link
be cool, fuckface
― waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:59 (ten years ago) link
lol words.
― eric banana (s.clover), Monday, 17 March 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link
It's what I do...Deal with it...Big Balls
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 March 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link
My first impulse about this was that it was fake, because the "wife" seemed so ignorant in that stereotypical "clueless girl" way. I had only read the Arab on Radar one at that point.
― sarahell, Monday, 17 March 2014 20:23 (ten years ago) link