OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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It's not like I was being subtle about it

post-nodern music player (wins), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link

Jeez guys the term is "falsely naive"

― continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, March 17, 2014 12:51 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

can't we just keep pretending it means "honestly naive" or whatever the hell Treeship is thinking it does

have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:16 (ten years ago) link

tbrr tho she's not being "falsely naive"/faux-naif but "deliberately ignorant", the tone of the piece is written about 'look how ignorant I am about this music'; a writer being proud of one's ignorance is not something that even WGW is above

continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link

If you pretend you have no knowledge or context, you can't be held to account when you screw up though, right? (Yes, you can.) It's one of the worst aspects of that style.

have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link

Could we admit that there's a difference between "admitting one's blind spots" and "deliberate ignorance"?

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link

I don't think anyone is denying that

have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:25 (ten years ago) link

I feel where Maura is coming from on this, but at the same time, having a big dumb record collection is a thing that skews so heavily male and is treated by record-collecting men as some kind of mysterious male talisman, and I feel like there's an aspect of this of demystification that I like. The sort of stereotypical "female" perspective whether you want to call it naive or faux-naive seems like a good tool for that job. I get that any amateur could just review records in an uninformed and amateurish way, but the fact that she is tackling "The Collection" seems like part of the point.

james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link

I don't think it's a great look but I think it emerged as a reaction to the much more prevalent tendency to act like everything can be reduced to its context. That's the context for the faux naif bloggy voice imo. It's about wanting to step outside the critical noise machine and make empirical observations as if for the first time.

Treeship, Monday, 17 March 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link

Think it's more about feeling like there's something intellectually dishonest about pretending to have a depth of knowledge about things you googled for half an hour.

tsrobodo, Monday, 17 March 2014 19:34 (ten years ago) link

that too

Treeship, Monday, 17 March 2014 19:35 (ten years ago) link

Sorry my last post was xp to tsrobodo.

Treeship, Monday, 17 March 2014 19:36 (ten years ago) link

Can we all agree that the most insufferable comment came from the husband

Alex Says: Even though I have 2 AC/DC records, I don’t really know their music all that well. I just collect records. It’s what I do. So I have two AC/DC records. Deal with it.
I’m pretty sure I bought this album off my old pal Michael Troutman, mostly because I was very familiar with Will Oldham’s weird cover of Big Balls, and I was like “ok, I’ll check it out.”

have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:51 (ten years ago) link

100% yes

waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:53 (ten years ago) link

uggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

perfect puppy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link

be cool, fuckface

waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 17 March 2014 19:59 (ten years ago) link

lol words.

eric banana (s.clover), Monday, 17 March 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link

It's what I do...Deal with it...Big Balls

james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 March 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link

My first impulse about this was that it was fake, because the "wife" seemed so ignorant in that stereotypical "clueless girl" way. I had only read the Arab on Radar one at that point.

sarahell, Monday, 17 March 2014 20:23 (ten years ago) link

she's going to get a book deal, isn't she

waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 17 March 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link

the world survived book deals for Stuff White People Like and Hipster Puppies, I don't see anything apocalyptically awful about it

sarahell, Monday, 17 March 2014 20:36 (ten years ago) link

i didn't say it was awful

waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 17 March 2014 20:38 (ten years ago) link

other people upthread seemed to be framing it as such, sorry waterbro

sarahell, Monday, 17 March 2014 20:39 (ten years ago) link

So I have two AC/DC records. Deal with it.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 17 March 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link

i've decided i don't have an opinion on this tumblr ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 17 March 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link

Oh, someone said "Book Deal"...

That's the new "Big payout from the press" innit?

Mark G, Monday, 17 March 2014 20:54 (ten years ago) link

wtf is this innit shit

waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 17 March 2014 20:54 (ten years ago) link

i have like eight ac/dc records i think

We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 March 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link

ok you win. (xpost)

I had one, but I sold it last week.

Mark G, Monday, 17 March 2014 20:56 (ten years ago) link

I like the way he says "I just collect records" as though it were like "collecting" dust -- just kind of happens to him, he can't necessarily be held accountable for their contents, etc.

james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 March 2014 20:59 (ten years ago) link

"Why do you have ten copies of Aqua's 'Barbie Girl' single next to an assortment of Boyd Rice albums?"

"I COLLECT RECORDS, OK?"

have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 17 March 2014 21:04 (ten years ago) link

Remember that dude's art project from the last couple years where he was trying to collect as many copies of The Beatles' White Album as possible? This blog would be kind of funny if she inspected his record collection only to find it was like 1500 copies of one album

have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 17 March 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link

ten copies of barbie girl is not enough

eric banana (s.clover), Monday, 17 March 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link

http://www.reddit.com/r/vinyl/comments/20i1nt/lady_goes_through_her_husbands_records_reviews/

[–]wacka4macca 18 points 1 day ago
Some friends and I saw this tumblr and honestly, while it's great she's discovering new music, we don't like that she's perpetuating the stereotype that "women know nothing about music or records". My husband and I share a vinyl addiction but in record stores, I'm the one who gets asked dumb questions about my music knowledge or have people trying to "educate" me about really basic things. I know it's a guy dominated hobby, but there are women out there who are just as into it. Plus, she calls his record collection "stupid". :/

Evan, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link

I just think it's weird that she supposedly has had no exposure to "her husband's records" until now, or like, she never accompanied him to a show by any of the artists or similar sounding bands? Is this common in relationships, because it was never the case with mine?

sarahell, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:27 (ten years ago) link

If I had to hazard a guess I'd say that they probably have attended shows together but the majority of records covered so far are by non-touring acts or bands that predate their shared cultural experiences

have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 17 March 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link

re the white album guy, i fuckin' loved this
https://soundcloud.com/dustandgrooves/white-album-side-1-x-100
worth listening through to at least glass onion where the deviances start to stack and break down to pure noise

We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 March 2014 21:32 (ten years ago) link

listening to the Beatles was so 4 yrs ago, forks

sarahell, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:33 (ten years ago) link

Even he doesn't even seem to know why he owns AC/DC records for instance, it was merely his duty to acquire them.

xxp

Evan, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link

dunno if you knew this sara, but they're played, like, everywhere

We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 March 2014 21:37 (ten years ago) link

sorry for frontin' forks, it's true, beatles records are delivered to my front steps weekly along with the door tags for local pizza places. you should see my collection of beatles records

sarahell, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link

are you trying out a bit or what

waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 17 March 2014 21:44 (ten years ago) link

i don't begrudge him for his ACDC comment. if you do collect records then you probably spend some time in dusty "friends of the library sales" and thrift stores and dollar bins and pick up TONS of shit that you just file in the "huh, may be interesting to hear at least once" shelf. the "deal with it" comment was kind of dumb but i think you people are overreacting.

marcos, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:44 (ten years ago) link

I feel where Maura is coming from on this, but at the same time, having a big dumb record collection is a thing that skews so heavily male and is treated by record-collecting men as some kind of mysterious male talisman, and I feel like there's an aspect of this of demystification that I like. The sort of stereotypical "female" perspective whether you want to call it naive or faux-naive seems like a good tool for that job. I get that any amateur could just review records in an uninformed and amateurish way, but the fact that she is tackling "The Collection" seems like part of the point.

― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Monday, March 17, 2014 3:27 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also this is otm

marcos, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:47 (ten years ago) link

i don't begrudge him for his ACDC comment. if you do collect records then you probably spend some time in dusty "friends of the library sales" and thrift stores and dollar bins and pick up TONS of shit that you just file in the "huh, may be interesting to hear at least once" shelf. the "deal with it" comment was kind of dumb but i think you people are overreacting.

― marcos, Monday, March 17, 2014 9:44 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

totally. not back in black tho

waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 17 March 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link

are you trying out a bit or what

― waterbabies (waterface), Monday, March 17, 2014 2:44 PM (3 minutes ago)

we are referring to a thread that happened before you started posting here

sarahell, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:49 (ten years ago) link

vinyl sorta put me through college but collecting it seriously in 2014 seems like a really bad idea

We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 March 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link

This is where I kinda wanna stick my fingers in my ears and sing "la la la, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a maaaaaan la la la I'm a man" since my Record Collection is such a stereotypically male talismanic thing! Can I get the societal privilege and the extra 30% in my paycheque to go with my talismanic collection, please? And an end to all the gender dysphoria I feel when conversations take this tone?

But it's like we can't ever just dismantle or indeed just abandon the idea of this construction of masculinity, instead we gotta dissect some girl because her "tone" is "naif" or not.

"Endemic. What does that mean, man?" (Branwell Bell), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:15 (ten years ago) link

""tone""

eric banana (s.clover), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:17 (ten years ago) link


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