OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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are you trying out a bit or what

― waterbabies (waterface), Monday, March 17, 2014 2:44 PM (3 minutes ago)

we are referring to a thread that happened before you started posting here

sarahell, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:49 (ten years ago) link

vinyl sorta put me through college but collecting it seriously in 2014 seems like a really bad idea

We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 March 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link

This is where I kinda wanna stick my fingers in my ears and sing "la la la, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a maaaaaan la la la I'm a man" since my Record Collection is such a stereotypically male talismanic thing! Can I get the societal privilege and the extra 30% in my paycheque to go with my talismanic collection, please? And an end to all the gender dysphoria I feel when conversations take this tone?

But it's like we can't ever just dismantle or indeed just abandon the idea of this construction of masculinity, instead we gotta dissect some girl because her "tone" is "naif" or not.

"Endemic. What does that mean, man?" (Branwell Bell), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:15 (ten years ago) link

""tone""

eric banana (s.clover), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:17 (ten years ago) link

by abiding by and reinforcing conventional views of gender roles, hierarchy and taste, this blog has in fact caused us to question our very notions of selfness and society. this was clearly the plan all along do you see.

eric banana (s.clover), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link

we are referring to a thread that happened before you started posting here

― sarahell, Monday, March 17, 2014 4:49 PM (28 minutes ago)

heh

Corporal Clegg, you've got a lovely daughter (WilliamC), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:20 (ten years ago) link

Maybe it would be worse if it were fake -- in terms of perpetuating stereotypes and oppositions (record nerd dude, musically naive woman) -- whereas I think (based on numerous conversations with women who have male partners who are record nerds) those are detrimental and only so "true"

sarahell, Monday, 17 March 2014 22:21 (ten years ago) link

When I pulled this album off the shelf I said, “oh, it’s an open-y!” And Alex was all, “alright, do you want to know the technical term for that?” And I was all like, “shut up I’m looking at this,” because he was sounding condescending, but now, I’m over it and want to know. It’s called a “gatefold.”

I want to read the blog where the noize-rock bf repeats librarian gf's tales of octavo and quarto, and hey there's a dedication on the t.p. verso, and check out the hand-marbled endpaper on this one

that's going to be a viral blockbuster for sure

(actually maybe it is, the librarian blog network is kind of nuts)

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:23 (ten years ago) link

everything!

treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:26 (ten years ago) link

Sorry to butt in but... Seriously - who doesn't shout, 'OH YEAH! OH, IT’S SICK!' when they hear the synths on Afrique's Kissing My Love?

And her take on it is probably the wisest thing that's ever been said about it: 'Honestly, you should just play this entire album at your backyard bbq. Everyone would be really happy about it guaranteed.'

NAILED IT. And some folk are now going to be having BBQs this summer listening to House Of Rising Funk. Good on her and her husband's stupid record collection.

So the blog can't be all bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7mtJ7qZVf4

I wish it was a bit funnier but then it's just a hobby blog and it wasn't written for me was it? Or anyone else on this board for that matter.

Doran, Monday, 17 March 2014 22:26 (ten years ago) link

These types of discussions are so full of landmines even for people who agree with your point of view that it's not worth pursuing. Suffice it to say one of my best friends is a music nerd and she doesn't seem to worry what other people think about her nerddom. Then again I doubt she's challenged on her credentials very often and I understand that would be irksome.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 17 March 2014 22:31 (ten years ago) link

everyone i knew sharing this on facebook were fans of albert ayler and/or arab on radar, and it was more of a "some random person is writing about music i like a lot that doesn't get that much written about it" than a "oh i am a self-congratulatory obscurantist"

sarahell, Monday, 17 March 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link

Alex Says: I really thought this was going to be the one where Sarah said “I have nothing good to say about this album. It’s garbage.” This review is a testament to how open minded she is being about this project. This album just screams (literally) “I AM FOR DUDES.”

niels, Monday, 17 March 2014 22:38 (ten years ago) link

that's gotta be some kind of gatefold technology i don't know about

We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:41 (ten years ago) link

what album?

sarahell, Monday, 17 March 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

sorry, anthrax - among the living

niels, Monday, 17 March 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link

oh, it's an open-y!

post-nodern music player (wins), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link

srsly don't know how anyone can read that & not be like, yeah, he is sounding condescending, but you are sounding like ralph wiggum

post-nodern music player (wins), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link

deliberately

post-nodern music player (wins), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link

posted without comment from another listserv

Showed this thread to my wife, who likes pop radio, NPR, and most consumer stuff...
"How precious."
She then reignited her blowtorch and proceeded to melt copper, silver, and other fine metals into a jewelry form she carved over the weekend.
What's problematic here? Them or us?

We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:56 (ten years ago) link

what's precious here? the blog or the metals?

post-nodern music player (wins), Monday, 17 March 2014 22:57 (ten years ago) link

hey here's Kate Moss reviewing George Michael's new album

http://www.vogue.co.uk/news/2014/03/17/kate-moss-george-michael-album-review-symphonica

don't worry, she asks her husband's opinion too

Charles, hatless (sic), Monday, 17 March 2014 23:10 (ten years ago) link

everything this story touches becomes noxious

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Monday, 17 March 2014 23:11 (ten years ago) link

George turns up to her house to give her the album.

Does she like it?

What you reckon?

Mark G, Monday, 17 March 2014 23:16 (ten years ago) link

who the hell only checks out AC/DC because Will Oldham covered them? I mean

http://whatshouldbetchescallme.tumblr.com/post/40501338427/when-a-girl-wont-stop-talking-about-herself

the tune was space, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 00:09 (ten years ago) link

I mean... the "oh they lead such a boring precious life" stuff is the least offensive part of this, what sort of life should they instead be leaving ("the sort of life where they don't write a blog" is acceptable but kinda misses the point)

katherine, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 00:15 (ten years ago) link

(wow, unfortunate typo there)

katherine, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link

I would probably say "it's an open-y" irl

coops all on coops tbh (crüt), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link

*opens thread*

"oooh it's a close-y."

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 00:25 (ten years ago) link

Haha I saw that blog a couple days ago & thought ah that's p funny ilx will have a shit fit about this

gimme the lute (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 00:45 (ten years ago) link

everything is just a game to you, isn't it upper mississippi sh@kedown?

Treeship, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 00:58 (ten years ago) link

Treeship, what do you think james franco would say about this situation?

, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 01:00 (ten years ago) link

TS: "isn't my ignorance ADORABLE" vs. "isn't my disinterest in sacred cows EDGY"

the tune was space, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 01:02 (ten years ago) link

in the age of google (cf whiney) ignorance in the only rebellion left

Treeship, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 01:08 (ten years ago) link

I am trying to figure out exactly why I want to tie this blog to the Upworthy-fication of Internet discourse and am drawing a blank

Wahaca Flocka Flame (DJP), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 01:27 (ten years ago) link

white ppl

no war but glass war (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 01:30 (ten years ago) link

have you no shame at all

no war but glass war (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 01:31 (ten years ago) link

Shame is a pigment we only experience it temporarily thats why we go from red back to wite again after

treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 01:49 (ten years ago) link

I like the concept of that blog but the writing is so gluey. It's really, really gross. Compare with Anna Minard's "Never Heard of Em" entries linked way upthread, which are similar in many ways but, you know, actually readable and pretty entertaining. I'm not clever enough to analyze why that is, but I'm kinda sure Branwell knows, and she'll probably find a way to beat me up about it. Am I rewarding Ms Minard for performing gender in some record-nerd-approved way and punishing whatserface for doing it in a non-nerd-approved one? I dunno. I don't think so. Although some of the grossness derives from gender stereotypes or can be read that way, it's the cotton-candy disingenuousness that's the real problem for me. I'd hate pomplamoose (Mr Seward OTM about the similarities in tone and spirit between ILM's most-hated band and its most-hated blog IMO) just as much if they were a couple of dudes, or if the chick was the musician and the guy was the singer. And I hated what I read of that blog and am done thinking about it hopefully forever now, but I'll probably check in with Anna Minard once in a while for fun.

a lot of really bad records changed my life (staggerlee), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 02:26 (ten years ago) link

I mean... the "oh they lead such a boring precious life" stuff is the least offensive part of this, what sort of life should they instead be leaving ("the sort of life where they don't write a blog" is acceptable but kinda misses the point)

― katherine, Monday, March 17, 2014 5:15 PM (3 hours ago)

they should have a life that conforms to those of me and my friends where everyone is fairly knowledgeable about semi-obscure music

sarahell, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 03:55 (ten years ago) link

Indeed. One must fully be familiar with at least five sun ra recordings to live an exciting and fulfilling life.

james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 04:17 (ten years ago) link

wildly off-topic and i know you meant it glibly but which 5? i've been trying to get into sun ra for a while and his disco is so overwhelming

Mordy , Tuesday, 18 March 2014 04:18 (ten years ago) link

oh wait sorry, I read the chart wrong, that data is inversely correlated

james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 04:18 (ten years ago) link

Thanks to this thread I just wasted a half hour reading my husband's stupid record collection.

JacobSanders, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 04:48 (ten years ago) link

I've never taken this thread title literally or seriously so I find it a bit bemusing how pretty much everything that gets posted here will get at least one "why are you guys so OUTRAGED by this for chrissakes its just a ___ why aren't you fighting the real enemy which is ___"

idk maybe some people are sitting there all hypertensive going THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE EXECUTED but for me this is just another lol @ dumb shit on the internet thread. This blog is clearly really annoyingly written but I'm not annoyed cause I haven't read it. I don't think anyone has a duty to know more about music or be less boring or delete their shit blog.

post-nodern music player (wins), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 07:12 (ten years ago) link

they should have a life that conforms to those of me and my friends where everyone is fairly knowledgeable about semi-obscure music

But they can go on about Imagine Dragons and the thrilling fact that they haven't heard them, and that would be fine

Iain Mew (if), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 07:21 (ten years ago) link

this thread board has no desire for a voice of reason

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 07:24 (ten years ago) link

xpost

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 07:26 (ten years ago) link

fuck Imogen Dragoons

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 07:26 (ten years ago) link


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