OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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fuck Imogen Dragoons

xXp That post was not made in earnest, dunno about that thread I haven't read it thrillingly enough

I got that, it wasn't directed at you

fuck "obscurity" fuck "nerdiness" fuck "difficultness" fuck "i don't get it" fuck expressing yr opinions fuck rating music fuck the plain listener fuck the girl/boy divide fuck "owning your ignorance"

(not directed at any one body)

this thread has become the dry rot in the ilxor party wall for some reason

wins thoroughly otm if i'm not being lucid enough

the thing that bugs me most about the blog is that in some of the photos she is imitating the album cover image and in some of the photos she isn't, but there are a few where it's ambiguous and I can't tell if she is imitating the cover or not (I'm not outraged by this, though, just to be clear).

On that AC/DC thing, I have a bunch of records that people have given me because they've been getting rid of old vinyl. Which is why I have the entire Guadalcanal Diary catalog that I've never listened to. I guess I'm asking, should I listen to it? Is it good? Do I need to have a quip for a future girlfriend?

Not being intentionally faux-naif bt on this at least it'd be nice if ppl didn't assume we all already know you write abt music, cos we don't

Unless yr Ned

this thread overnight has been even worse than the annoying and completely ignorable blog

Sorry, or Lex

What rankles me slightly wrt that blog is that usually writers do that with kids, maybe the blog is satire?

Threads are ignorable too iirc!

Hot new contender. Toxic levels of rockism and rongness.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/Julian_Casablancas_Is_Riding_Forth_To_Rescue_Rock_Again?click=feed

But was it good? That’s hard to say.

Wait. Julian Casablancas' new band is called The Voidz? For real? Um.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/18/music-criticism-has-degenerated-into-lifestyle-reporting.html

No real mentions in that article of specifics to support his point.

lol under daily beast headings

POLITICS ENTERTAINMENT WORLD NEWS TECH+HEALTH FASHION GREAT ESCAPES WOMEN BOOKS

lol, i was just coming by to roll that url into the room, shut the door and run

the dry rot in the ilxor party wall

this is a beautiful bit of work noodle vague

'The Strokes saved rock'n'roll' is my least favourite common misconception in music revisionism. Is this an American thing? I guess I've heard the same case made for the Libertines, but it never felt that way to me.

it's a fucking british thing

"Technical knowledge of the art form has disappeared from its discourse."

"I’ve just spent a very depressing afternoon looking through the leading music periodicals."

"And I read some reviews of albums, and got told by “‘critics” (I use that term loosely) that they were “badass,” “hot,” “sexy,” “tripped-out,” and “freaky.”"

Kind of reads like an editorial from the Onion.

'The Strokes saved rock'n'roll' is my least favourite common misconception in music revisionism. Is this an American thing

lol iirc this was almost 100% a british music press thing, it reeks of it

xp waterface yes

hi 5 marcos

pretty sure british publications have a cover template that has an empty photo slot and insert-band-name spot that reads "____ Are Here to Save Rock n' Roll!!!"

disappointed that ted gioia doesn't know that totally shredding is a v. precise term of praise, though he was supposed to be a discerning critic

He IS a discerning critic: he read several music publications lying on his coffee table

Serious question: Have you guys heard of Ted Gioia before today?

"the leading music periodicals"

http://www.neh.gov/files/imagecache/neh_large/divisions/preservation/images/papersbg.jpg

I follow him on Twitter. He's fairly well-known.

I know him because of jazz stuff

know of him, I mean

x-posts but only if you really believe that "The NME" and "the British Music Press" are synonymous.

i have his history of jazz sitting on the shelf next to me

This really stuck out at me:

The pentatonic scale is a simple concept—just five notes (do, re, mi, so, la) we all learned as children.

"we all". Because yes, I learned what a pentatonic scale was, as a child, but only because my parents were wealthy enough to afford private music lessons. He's blaming the music press when he seems to omit how much musical education has been slashed from the majority of schools. (I have no idea what any of his "football" terminology means either, but hey.)

cmon public schools have pianos with black keys too

People have technical conversations about music all the time, they just use different vocabularies, values, terms, etc. Or tools for that matter. There's so much wrong about piece - but it mostly seems to stem from its belief in a singular public, a set of norms to assess best practice, a single sonic language. I mean, that article can't be serious. It's too crazy.

My public school taught us basic musical concepts, but I do have a feeling that fewer public schools do it now, and that really does pain me, a lot. But I don't think that's the or a primary reason why a review of Justin Bieber doesn't read like NYTimes Classical Music criticism.

People have technical conversations about music all the time, they just use different vocabularies, values, terms, etc. Or tools for that matter. There's so much wrong about piece - but it mostly seems to stem from its belief in a singular public, a set of norms to assess best practice, a single sonic language. I mean, that article can't be serious. It's too crazy.

― MikoMcha, Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:26 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Right, e.g. I just randomly opened a pitchfork review just now and the term "motorik" appeared in the first paragraph -- that, in a way, is a technical musical term.

yeah to me the things gioia says about technical knowledge betray kind of a questionable assumption that it's only jazz and classical criticism that call for 'specialized' knowledge (thus dedicated musically-focused criticism). shit, what kind of music doesn't?? and the pressures from there being eight million different musics competing for attention probably have a lot more to do with the choices critical venues ended up making than straight up venality and vapidity.

Although it's never a good idea to discount the power of venality and vapidity in any avenue of human endeavor.

But I was told music is a universal language!

it's kind of funny bc pentatonic scale is abt as close to a universal musical language as we have
but it's arrant madness to think "we all" were taught wtf a pentatonic scale is in school. I was in fucking BAND (alto sax) for most of grade school and high school and no one ever told us that, prob because there are no pianos in band.

he didn't say we were all taught what a pentatonic scale was, he said we all learned those notes