Haha, I just heard this last night for the first time and when "Wild West Show" came on I was like, "is this the Mission?" Roll on goth-country takeover!
― Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:14 (twenty years ago) link
2. That their sudden ubiquitousness on country stations may well represent the most quantum leap taken by ANY musical genre in, I dunno, decades. At least.>>
Chuck, I get what you're saying here, and I kinda agree, but do you really think Big & Rich is that big a leap from the ironic jiggle-and-bling videos that have been all over mainstream country for at least the past 5 years? the quasi-hip hop bravado of Toby Keith, etc? I mean, B&R definitely are the most dramatic shift in this direction so far, but I don't see it as that surprising or unprecedented.
― Al (sitcom), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link
While I do think Chuck may be taking it a bit far with some of his declarations on this one, here I think he may (may) have something. To the above quote, I'd say that the difference lies what B&R walk in the video and talk in the music is where he has merit.
― frankE (frankE), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago) link
Yeah, really remember those old Hank Jr all my rowdy friends videos....and that God Bless Texas one from about 10 years ago?
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:52 (twenty years ago) link
― frankE (frankE), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:41 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 4 June 2004 19:41 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 4 June 2004 19:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Friday, 4 June 2004 19:49 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Friday, 4 June 2004 19:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Friday, 4 June 2004 19:52 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 4 June 2004 19:53 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Friday, 4 June 2004 19:57 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 4 June 2004 19:59 (twenty years ago) link
refusal to bend,if we're feeling ten feet tallthen screw the midgets
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:04 (twenty years ago) link
FWIW, "the race thing" is probably the most irritating thing on the record to me. I can't really listen to Love Train (even though I love the fact that they just decided to call their song Love Train, as if it didn't matter that there already was a Love Train--it's a great little snapshot of their "Fuck it" attitude) because the lyrics are just too hard to take: "The whole color thing's never made sense to me." Really? It hasn't? That's shocking. You think we should all just get along? Can I subsribe to your newsletter? To me, this line by itself undercuts some of the other actually interesting stuff about race on the alum.
― Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:11 (twenty years ago) link
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― chuck, Friday, 4 June 2004 20:12 (twenty years ago) link
I think that attitude is total horseshit. They might as well sing "some of my best friends are black!" Though that's obviously implied on the record, of course.
― Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:32 (twenty years ago) link
What tractors, Yancey?? You mean the country group by that name, from a few years ago, who I remember nothing about, assuming that was even their name? Were they even any good? (I thought they were some corny retro act, but maybe I was as wrong about them as I was about the Kentucky Headhunters, who I stupidly ignored back when they actually had hits.) I do know that some people think Kenny Chesny's tractor is sexy, though. (Unless that was Marc Chesnutt's tractor; I forget.)
― chuck, Friday, 4 June 2004 20:41 (twenty years ago) link
― frankE (frankE), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:48 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 4 June 2004 20:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:49 (twenty years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 4 June 2004 21:07 (twenty years ago) link
Overall, I still prefer DBT's lyrics but I think Big and Rich have got better hooks, both great bands in my book.
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Friday, 4 June 2004 21:20 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 4 June 2004 21:27 (twenty years ago) link
― MV, Friday, 4 June 2004 21:32 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 4 June 2004 22:13 (twenty years ago) link
― frankE (frankE), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Saturday, 5 June 2004 00:04 (twenty years ago) link
"not nearly as parrot-like as..."
What about lyrics? Surely B&R's are more Buffetesque than those others folks', no?
― MV, Saturday, 5 June 2004 01:16 (twenty years ago) link
Big and Rich are quiteaggressive and flashy intheir lyrical approach
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 5 June 2004 01:27 (twenty years ago) link
The rhythm section might be better (or worse) now that Isbell's wife is playing bass for them (Earl Hicks left the band, right?)
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 5 June 2004 01:28 (twenty years ago) link
and that's true about Shonna Isbell being the new bassist, when I saw them play last year here in town she was terrific, a great new addition.
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Saturday, 5 June 2004 02:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Saturday, 5 June 2004 02:15 (twenty years ago) link
― David Allen (David Allen), Saturday, 5 June 2004 03:08 (twenty years ago) link
Anyone who likes the black cowboy rapper, whatever the fuck his name is, is batshit - he's TERRIBLE. That song he's on is inexcusably awful. Awful kanawful. Totally without merit.
Overall, I dig the album. Not sellin' it back. I'm definitely sold on the homoerotic angle yall got goin upthread too, even the booklet speaks volumes.
Are there any available solo recordings? Who's who? Does Big do most of the lead vocals or is it John Rich?
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 5 June 2004 06:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 5 June 2004 06:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 5 June 2004 06:58 (twenty years ago) link
Well clearly this is why we have to keep the minimum wage down
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And then America tells him to step right up despite not allowing him to buy a glass of whiskey.— John Legend (@johnlegend) May 28, 2022
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