I really, really dislike Ultragrrl [edited title - mod]

Then again, people send me free stuff, and I do things like post pictures of Chinese bridal parties, so it's most likely everyone involved is just deluded rather than actively evil.

-- breezy (breezypoint7...), June 7th, 2005

"oh, too malicious"

on the mark/on the money

Not as vile as that one site that kept calling her "Jewish" as an insult. And not even in a funny way!

(Does anyone have a copy of this and feel like posting some gems?)

What are we talking about again?

I actually intened at SPIN in 1989, and my then-boss (if you can call her a boss, being that I wasn't getting paid or anything....just ripping off tons of SPIN "sportswear" and albums that Legs McNeil wasn't going to touch with a ten foot barge pole) had a similar sort've aesthetic as Ultragrrrl. She'd fawn and swoon over bands like the Wonder Stuff, Ned's Atomic Dustbin, EAT, Kingmaker, etc. etc. I mean, I liked these bands as well -- but evidently for very different reasons (while I thought he was dead cool at the time, I harbored no desire to get in Miles Hunt's trousers). She later moved onto another job that dealt more with TV/movies and applied the same sort've approach there (and seemingly completely lost interest in music).

In re-reading this, I'm realizing that I'm sounding like a pompous, sexist rock snob (I know...SHOCKAH!). Liking bands primarily because you want to sleep with them just seems kinda shallow and stupid to me.

Moreover, the whole premise of her book (not that I've read it, mind you) just sort've smacks of striving to make the right IMPRESSION. It's like those Rolling Stone guides from about a decade back (remember them? They were sized like a compact disc). They'd espouse albums seemingly solely for folks who just wanted to have the "right" discs on their shelves, so when people came over, they'd say: "Ooh, Gerald, you're so ecclectic! You have LL Cool J AND Slint!"

Then again, I haven't read her book: Maybe she talks more about resources with which to find out about new and or obscure music, as opposed to musicians who are really cute and shaggable. But I doubt it.

A Too Much Joy song comes to mind.

On VH1 right now, SPIN's Sarah "Ultragrrrl" Lewitinn just called Eminem's "Lose Yourself" one of "the greatest pop songs....EVER!"

I didn't actually say I wanted to shoot her out of a poop canon, but I did say she made me want to blow up the world....which is still more or less true. That said, this thread did devolve into a discussion about her arguable "chunky troll legs," which seemed a bit offsides.

No, it doesn't. I think the girls in BOND are entirely sexy and shaggable and whatnot, but I'd sooner suck a car's muffler than actively listen to their music.

Aren't you confusing liking a band and liking their music?

Well, you don't have to listen to their music. Who are BOND? I thought you were talking about the film franchise for a moment.

Jes sayin'.

There are lots of idiots on ILM.
-- Cool Hand Luuke (showroo...), June 8th, 2005.

There are lots of idiots on ILM.
-- Cool Hand Luuke (showroo...), June 8th, 2005.

There are lots of idiots on ILM.
-- Cool Hand Luuke (showroo...), June 8th, 2005.

There are lots of idiots on ILM.
-- Cool Hand Luuke (showroo...), June 8th, 2005.

There are lots of idiots on ILM.
-- Cool Hand Luuke (showroo...), June 8th, 2005.

There are lots of idiots on ILM.
-- Cool Hand Luuke (showroo...), June 8th, 2005.

There are lots of idiots on ILM.
-- Cool Hand Luuke (showroo...), June 8th, 2005.

There are lots of idiots on ILM.
-- Cool Hand Luuke (showroo...), June 8th, 2005.

There are lots of idiots on ILM.
-- Cool Hand Luuke (showroo...), June 8th, 2005.

There are lots of idiots on ILM.
-- Cool Hand Luuke (showroo...), June 8th, 2005.

There are lots of idiots on ILM.
-- Cool Hand Luuke (showroo...), June 8th, 2005.

(Hahaha Nick Sylvester to thread to agree/disagree with that?)

I was recently called out on Twitter about this thread. Suffice to say, back in the late 90's through early 2000's, I expressed a profoundly ill-advised selection of roundly ill-advised, insensitive and objectionable comments here, usually couched within the frequently missed understanding that I should not be taken so deathly seriously.

Some people may have gleaned as much, but others did not. It is certainly not a a testament to my abilities to convey my genuine points that my venom and bluster was so routinely taken at face value. Moreover, I was probably frequently inconsiderate, unthinking and impulsive about the things I contributed here.

In short, I was a callously unthinking dick quite a lot of the time. Having big opinions about things shouldn't give one license to behave like I did, and I was out of line on more than a few occasions, this thread being just one of them.

In any case, I believe I penned a mea culpa on my blog some years ago to the same effect but it bears repeating. I am sorry. I did not mean any harm. I was foolish and stupid. I sincerely apologize to Ultrragrrl, Scout Niblett and any number of other targets i singled out for spleen-venting.

I regret it all.

"I expressed a profoundly ill-advised selection of roundly ill-advised.."

Awful.

One more thing on this: i used to blithely suggest that no one's day should be ruined by something they read on a public forum about music, as if that was some shiny badge that enabled me to be callous, boorish, pig-headed and insulting. Well, that's a pile of crap, and I again apologize. Regardless of the subject matter of a discussion, there's never an excuse for being a belittling jerk. I was and am that jerk, and I apologize again.