this record is deceptive. like when you first got rubiks cube and you were all like "aw hell, no way am I touching something inspired by hungarian physicists
but then over breakfat,the potatoes warmed themselves and you were all like "ah hell this record is so good, he is revealing the soul, like jung in the red book.
― dell (del), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 05:59 (ten years ago) link
disappearing is like the masculin/feminin response to HAIM's forever
a meditation on the soul, in both its provisional and eternal aspects. what apprehends is forever, the other stuff is ornament. as was, there was a lot of detriment in my blood and that of others, but in listening to this record i realized that I had hugely erred and manufactured a sense of self that is in fact incapable of preventing love's revelation, no matter the assumptive arguments. If you want something from the place then it will come unto you but be careful what you wish for.
― dell (del), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 06:13 (ten years ago) link
A connecting principleLinked to the invisibleAlmost imperceptibleSomething inexpressibleScience insusceptibleLogic so inflexibleCausally connectableYet nothing is invincibleIf we share this nightmareThen we can dreamSpiritus mundiIf you act as you thinkThe missing linkSynchronicity
If we share this nightmareThen we can dreamSpiritus mundi
If you act as you thinkThe missing linkSynchronicity
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 11:47 (ten years ago) link
That reads like Sesame St
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 12:15 (ten years ago) link
holla back jung'n
― white humor blows (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 12:32 (ten years ago) link
Why the Police lyrics idgi
― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 14:00 (ten years ago) link
Ask the butterfly that just died in Scotland.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 14:15 (ten years ago) link
*stares into the distance*
― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 14:19 (ten years ago) link
well the comedown here is easy/like the arrival of a new day
this man is a poet, and not in the Reader's Digest sense. He is talking to the Soul, which is presently down in the workshop, coated in sawdust and the sweat of lacquer
― dell (del), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 00:58 (ten years ago) link
if way quieter some of the best hypno-grooves since the most recent wooden shjips
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 15:38 (ten years ago) link
the intro of "burning" REALLY has a lot of "young turks" in it.
if nothing else this has to be the greatest driving record of the last 10 years.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 25 April 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link
i only heard slave ambient because of LITD, and i don't see how anyone could prefer the latter over the former.
― Hunt3r, Friday, 25 April 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link
both are kind of samey, but there is an overall tension and vibrance that drives slave ambient along. LITD seems listless.
gah can you tell i'm not a music critic.
― Hunt3r, Friday, 25 April 2014 21:22 (ten years ago) link
i love how burning is all rod stewart, bruce springsteen, dire straights, and tom petty-ish within the first minute.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 25 April 2014 21:46 (ten years ago) link
it's really weird that this band has engaged me so much, i feel like it's on some pressure point of my aesthetics, like i somehow have to wrestle out some kind of justifiable opinion about it. relistening to LITD track by track now, i need to recalibrate from comments above. anyway, under the pressure and red eyes are def not listless...
― Hunt3r, Friday, 25 April 2014 21:49 (ten years ago) link
Hunt3r I am right on the same page with you - both your first comment and the last one too. Definitely find Slave Ambient to be superior but feel some kind of urge to break LITD to its elements--find the trees in the forest.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 26 April 2014 00:32 (ten years ago) link
"eyes to the wind" sounds a lot like a latter-day jayhawks jam, one of the ones not sung by gary louris, like say "bottomless cup"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGs9BQzJvds
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 26 April 2014 12:30 (ten years ago) link
agreed with you guys xp i'm listening to this a lot more than i planned in the name of figuring it out
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 26 April 2014 12:32 (ten years ago) link
it's hard to figure it all out
life just keeps movin on
― j., Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link
Hearing "Red Eyes" a lot on WXRT locally, which means it's only a matter of time before WoD is as big as DMB.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link
I didn't care at all about this band when they were new but yesterday a dude who was into them back then told me to really give the new one a chance and wow. Like this record a lot, and I generally don't listen to, you know, indie rock
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
yeah this is my favorite record in quite a while
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link
Like this record a lot, and I generally don't listen to, you know, indie rock
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"never get high off your own supply"
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 13:56 (ten years ago) link
I'm still trying to reconcile it, but there's def. some overlap with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5eP95OsxqM&feature=youtu.be
It's that mix of epicness and grandeur and vagueness and exultant release.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link
actually sometimes his delivery reminds me of chris bailey in the 80s a little madness to be free/all fools day period. the music, not much.
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link
didn't care at all about this band when they were new but yesterday a dude who was into them back then told me to really give the new one a chance and wow. Like this record a lot, and I generally don't listen to, you know, indie rock
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned),
I feel like I lost a member of the family.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 17:34 (ten years ago) link
we accept you we accept you one of us
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
listening to under the pressure really does have a lot of that pagan place big music vibe
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link
I don't know what to tell you Alfred this is good music. it's not as good as Ava Inferi but most people don't really give a shit about Ava Inferi, what can you do
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 2 May 2014 03:10 (ten years ago) link
Don't worry Steven, Alfred has been pretty intent on being a total drag in this thread from the get go
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 May 2014 11:51 (ten years ago) link
Am I wrong to wish they'd drop the synths and go full roots rock? Don't answer that, I know what you will all say. But I want more Taking The Farm and Arms Like Boulders, and less emoting over soundscapes for 10 minutes at a time.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 2 May 2014 11:56 (ten years ago) link
Am I wrong to wish they'd drop the synths and go full roots rock?
No, you're right. I want them to go full Dire Straits.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 May 2014 11:59 (ten years ago) link
Have you seen them live? I have not, but I wonder if they get closer to rock on stage.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:03 (ten years ago) link
Going straight roots rock would rob them of the thing that makes them interesting and unique, it's all about the combination of earthiness and floatiness.
― Matt DC, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:10 (ten years ago) link
otm
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 2 May 2014 12:13 (ten years ago) link
Don't feel like they're that good at either of them but only get by on being sorta interesting
― Hunt3r, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:26 (ten years ago) link
synth vs. no synth is a red herring, i think some of you want them to write tighter songs which three albums in they're pretty clearly not going to do
― call all destroyer, Friday, 2 May 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link
more like war on interesting music
― ienjoyhotdogs, Friday, 2 May 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link
Listened to this based on seeing it in SNA constantly and it is not bad but it really lacks any tunes or hooks, just feels like lots of atmospherics and mood without any great dynamics. I really like the textures and I think that trying to hang them on "big songs" would be missing the point but as it sounds just now it feels a bit anaemic. But it is the kind of album that's interesting enough to make me want to persevere and listen a few times again to see if it opens up, and I think it's going to sound better in the summer for some reason.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 2 May 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link
Can't imagine listening to this band anywhere else than in a car on a highway
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 3 May 2014 06:47 (ten years ago) link
i just sit in my chair but i do pretend i'm in a car
i roll the windows down too
― j., Saturday, 3 May 2014 14:32 (ten years ago) link
This record sounds more like Calling Elvis than Tunnel Of Love.
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 3 May 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link
Fun thread to read. upper mississippi sh@kedown otm throughout. I kind of feel like it diminishes this band's music to only listen for the influences. I get why people do it, though, because we haven't really heard this particular mixture of influences before, so it's interesting to try to pinpoint exactly what they are channeling. For me their music appeals more as part of a long continuum of trance-inducing repetitive music (along the lines of Cave, Loop, Wooden Shjips, Spacemen 3, etc.) just one that happens to occasionally evoke a certain strain of east coast bar rock of the 80s. I really like this album, I think it's more consistent than earlier stuff, and the hooks are stronger, but so far nothing on it tops my favorite songs on Slave Ambient ("It's Your Destiny", "Original Slave", "Come to the City").
― beard papa, Saturday, 17 May 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link
my album mix this morning transitioned from tony williams on miles' 'miles smiles' to the cymbals opening 'lost in the dream', didn't miss a beat
― j., Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:22 (ten years ago) link
After several weeks of going crazy trying to figure out which song the melody & progression of "Eyes to the Wind" remind me of, I finally realized it's Belle & Sebastian, "My Wandering Days Are Over" (for some reason I had been thinking Pavement, I think because the production reminded me a little of CR,CR)
― Todd Palin Campaign HQ Blues (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:28 (ten years ago) link
I read the recent interview w him about mental health issues he was dealing w before during and after making the record and it prompted me to listen to it again. Y'know how you go through these phases where maybe you listen to something fairly obsessively and then have to take a break from it b/c for whatever reasons even thinking about it makes you sick.
Anyway, I feel like he really did contact the Advocate that is present and available to all of our psyches -- the aspect of ourselves that argues for a more realistic and vaster picture of who we actually are. In our culture we don't have a vocabulary for, or instilled readymade spots for shamanic leanings to occupy -- we don't have a healing vocabulary. We do best at being cynical and inventing increasingly withering putdowns to express the disgust and unease that we feel at being incarnated in these forms. Anyway, maybe this is all insane projection on my part, but I think that the WoD guy contacted some of that vibe and managed to put it on his record. I don't grasp that feeling from many other records. The sense of wrestling w one's demons and catching them in that moment when you are looking into their eyes and seeing them as the helping spirits that they are. The actual grit in the oyster and all that junk. It's an ecology; we need poison as much as we need medicine.
― dell (del), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
i think that's a very interesting juxtaposition, del, between 'more realistic' and 'vaster'
i would normally be inclined to hear the blissed-out sound, and the motorik version of american road music, with less realism, somehow - because of associations with escapism, flight, abandonment
but there does seem to be something realistic about the sound (not just the lyrics), something about life/the world that's being intended by it
― j., Sunday, 12 October 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
"blissed-out sound, and the motorik version of american road music" - thanks for nailing their sound so succinctly. i'd been struggling to describe them to people so far
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 13 October 2014 09:26 (nine years ago) link
oh i stole it from a review, no doubt, they all say that
― j., Monday, 13 October 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link
the motorik version of american road music
I get what this means, but still, that is literally this:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/A74-D-front-250.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 October 2014 13:21 (nine years ago) link