I'm looking forward to the inevitable rarities and b-sides comp. There's shit loads to choose from.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 April 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link
that's fair, although Forest Swords is like the least angular and disjointed (or post-dubsteppy) example i can think of.
xp
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 3 April 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link
Fits the bill more than The Lighthouse Family or Aerosmith.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 April 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link
That was me being factious, sorry.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 April 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link
The first four songs made more sense live particularly Bloom and Feral.
Staircase has always been the b-side highlight in here for me, should have been added in the album.
― Moka, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link
Bloom is really great, I think, just texturally gorgeous. It's Morning Mr Magpie and Little By Little that feel really incomplete to me, scrawny and half-finished when they should be full of dynamics and momentum.
KoL doesn't sound bad to me, just insubstantial, incomplete. It needed one of those annoying (but ultimately correct) A&R men who says go away and write some more songs, it's not done yet.
^^^ This.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link
That guy from Fiery Furnaces is extremely douchey.
― austinato (Austin), Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link
yeah, if mistakenly thinking there's an extra letter in a song title sets you off on a crazy tirade you have to reassess
Bloom is awesome, and i agree that the from the basement version kind of opened it up to me. the basement version's mix and organic build makes the song title make sense.
i really wish they'd try recording with a different producer, just for kicks
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:48 (ten years ago) link
They could definitely try teaming with a different producer at least for a b-side to see how it works out but Nigel is sort of like a 6th member. I don't see how they could do it without him feeling butthurt. At this point it would be like doing a Radiohead album and sending Phil home for a couple of tracks and having the Portishead drummer fill in for him instead.
― Moka, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link
^would enjoy that
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link
(nothing against phil but clive deamer is great)
Really, Staircase and Supercollider should have both been on the album, IMO.
― Branwell Bell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:10 (ten years ago) link
Yes, Supercollider and Staircase are confusing omissions, if they had them laying around why did they left them out when the album is too short and they are amongst the best material in here? Daily Mail doesn't really fit with the overall sound and the Butcher sort of meanders. I've said it before but this is the perfect sequencing of this album for me, I have been listening to it this way in itunes for almost three years and it has made me love the thing even more.
Ok remember that a year ago I posted a link to rearrange the tracklist in accordance to the newspaper version? ( http://www.oesquema.com.br/trabalhosujo/2011/02/28/the-king-of-limbs-newspaper-album-ou-codex.htm#comment-21810 )Well, I was thinking about using this rearranged tracklist and adding supercollider and staircase in there to make it a 10 track album. daily mail and butcher I feel like they disrupt the overall aesthetic of the album and I'm fine with leaving them as b-sides. I was also thinking of removing Feral completely and adding Staircase in there because it sounds great in between lotus flower and little by little. Without removing any of the original tracks this is what I came up with. I think it sounds fantastic. Give it a try and tell me what you think:1) “Lotus Flower”2) “Feral”3) "Staircase"4) “Little By Little”5) “Codex”6) “Give Up the Ghost”7) " Supercollider"8) “Morning Mr Magpie”9) “Bloom”10) “Separator”― Moka, Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:21 AM (2 years ago)
Well, I was thinking about using this rearranged tracklist and adding supercollider and staircase in there to make it a 10 track album. daily mail and butcher I feel like they disrupt the overall aesthetic of the album and I'm fine with leaving them as b-sides. I was also thinking of removing Feral completely and adding Staircase in there because it sounds great in between lotus flower and little by little. Without removing any of the original tracks this is what I came up with. I think it sounds fantastic. Give it a try and tell me what you think:
1) “Lotus Flower”2) “Feral”3) "Staircase"4) “Little By Little”5) “Codex”6) “Give Up the Ghost”7) " Supercollider"8) “Morning Mr Magpie”9) “Bloom”10) “Separator”
― Moka, Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:21 AM (2 years ago)
― Moka, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:17 (ten years ago) link
They could have edited 'Supercollider' by a minute or so, imho. But even with this modified playlist the album is 50 minutes long.
― Moka, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link
This is where I always say that Supercollider really should be 18 minutes longer...
― Branwell Bell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link
Agreed that Supercollider is next level, probably better than anything on KoL. Would be totally up for their next album having loads of pulsing muted house synths.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 4 April 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link
Dont get me wrong I love supercollider and I'm in for an extended version, just saying if it was an actual song in the album I'd edited to make it blend better in the album context and not as a stand-alone piece. Same thing with life in a glasshouse, I prefer the extended version but I understand why they added the editedversion instead (although they also made some awful sequencing choices on that album but that's another discussion)
― Moka, Friday, 4 April 2014 08:15 (ten years ago) link
That Friedberger story is amazing, it's like a real life version of one of those self-clowning oven ILX posts.
― Matt DC, Friday, 4 April 2014 09:20 (ten years ago) link
'Supercollider' is one of my favourite things to come out of this era of Radiohead, definitely.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Friday, 4 April 2014 11:07 (ten years ago) link
Played around with this last night. You just have to add the stand-alone singles in the middle and it becomes a full, pretty good album:
1. Bloom2. Morning Mr Magpie3. Little By Little4. Feral5. Supercollider6. The Butcher7. The Daily Mail8. Staircase9. Lotus10. Codex11. Give Up the Ghost12. Separator
Really flows well.
― LimbsKing, Friday, 4 April 2014 13:43 (ten years ago) link
On Give Up The Ghost, why does Thom keep singing "Radio 1"?
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 4 April 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link
Haha. I think he's saying "Don't harm me" and "Into your arms" in the background.
Was at a jazz club in DC last year and the band played "Give Up the Ghost." Pretty interesting arrangement.
― LimbsKing, Friday, 4 April 2014 14:26 (ten years ago) link
i'm listening to this again for the first time in ages, and it's fair to say this album has bits that sound like a complete mess and not in a good way. The drums on the first two tracks sound like they were put in as placeholders. Even on Little By Little, which I like a lot, it sounds like the rhythm is doing something completely out of touch with the rest of the song.
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 4 April 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link
I love the drums + bass combo on this one O_O
If it were for me all radiohead albums would be this rhythm-driven... its the closest I get to a modern Can. It's the actual songs I have a problem with, the elements are there but it's too abstract at points. You can see they are mature musicians now but there's more interest in style than content. They know how to make a song sound cool and ambitious, they just need a song now.
― Moka, Saturday, 5 April 2014 02:18 (ten years ago) link
the most interesting thing about "little by little" is how the rhythm is almost at odds with the rest of the song! it creates this neat, fluctuating pocket
live from the basement version of this record is probably their best record, but if i were playing god with the studio recordings i'd probably just have "staircase," "little by little," and "supercollider" followed by the second side
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 April 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link
i never got into this. and i really like ok computer, kid a, in rainbows, some of the bends and hail to the thief
― markers, Saturday, 5 April 2014 02:38 (ten years ago) link
amnesiac has its moments
the singles make this album way better. weird that they didn't get included.
― akm, Saturday, 5 April 2014 04:24 (ten years ago) link
i would add harry patch too
― akm, Saturday, 5 April 2014 04:25 (ten years ago) link
I really like These Are My Twisted Words.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 5 April 2014 10:41 (ten years ago) link
Ditto - think I prefer it to almost everything on the album. Nice and muscular.
― Simon H., Saturday, 5 April 2014 14:28 (ten years ago) link
Little by Little is a shoe-in for my ballot in the upcoming Radiohead poll
― lolipsism (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 6 April 2014 06:56 (ten years ago) link
Think the only two from the actual album that'll make my ballot are Lotus Flower and Codex, though Supercollider and probably Staircase will be there.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Sunday, 6 April 2014 12:11 (ten years ago) link
you guys, the beat on 'little by little' isn't that weird (think of it like a dancehall beat), it's the guitar part that makes the whole thing feel out of sync. the guitar is on all upbeats, but the way it moves and the legato-ness make it feel like the downbeat. also the drums are way too quiet in the mix to hold it down, the kick is barely audible.
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 7 April 2014 15:41 (ten years ago) link
It sounds like two songs playing at slightly different tempos, like if you were listening to one song and you could faintly hear your upstairs neighbor listening to a different song.
― LimbsKing, Monday, 7 April 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link
It isn't the first time they try these sort of disorienting guitar parts. It reminds me of 'Go to sleep' and 'Jigsaw falling into place' but whereas I found those two songs unremarkable the percussions on 'Little by little' are all sorts of amazing. I swear it sounds like a distant relative of Tago Mago / Ege Bamyasi.
― Moka, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:09 (ten years ago) link
idk, those have some odd-ish length phrases, but are pretty easy to feel on a bar-by-bar basis. this one is in 4/4 but i have to concentrate just to feel it the right way.
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 7 April 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link
I didn't care for _In Rainbows_ or _King Of Limbs_ and found them very disappointing, but oddly, all of these songs work great for me in a live setting
― Jak, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:26 (ten years ago) link
Personalised KoL era playlist I'm digging right now:
Bloom (Live from the Basement)The Daily MailStaircaseSupercolliderMorning Mr Magpie (Live From the Basement)Lotus FlowerCodexGive Up the GhostSeparator
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 13:20 (ten years ago) link
i'm so glad they re-wrote 'you and whose army' with the daily mail. seriously.
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link
Mine was better, chap ;)
I really hate daily mail, glad that one didn't make it. Staircase, though is one of the best songs from the whole set and it fits perfect inside the album. I can't believe they left that one out.
― Moka, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link
Give Up The GhostThere's a signpost to future directions within this one, and it's not pointing where you think it is.
― Mark G
I'm now curious for what you meant with this.
― Moka, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 20:17 (ten years ago) link
So am I.
(was it me? Really?)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 23:12 (ten years ago) link
guess it really isn't pointing where you think it is
― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 23:20 (ten years ago) link
Ok, I have found the original message, they are one-line reviews of all the tracks.
Was I aping someone's style? Was I being funny? Or was I meaning what I said?
I don't recall anything about this album at all now.
I guess I'm going to have to hear it again, aren't I?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 23:35 (ten years ago) link
Well, I did a one track review before you where I compared it to Neil Young, maybe that was it?
― Moka, Thursday, 4 September 2014 01:44 (ten years ago) link
Noh, I'm neither way wrt Neil
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 September 2014 06:21 (ten years ago) link
Man the live, martial version of "Lotus Flower" they used as set opener on the tour was maybe 10 000 times better than the album cut.
― MatthewK, Thursday, 4 September 2014 11:12 (ten years ago) link
New album soon?
http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/10/radioheads-new-album-is-finished-band-plans-to-tour-in-2016/
― groovypanda, Thursday, 15 October 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link
I still don't think that this is one of Radiohead's better albums, but 'Morning Mr Magpie', 'Feral' and 'Codex' have grown on me a hell of a lot recently.
― Turrican, Thursday, 15 October 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link