yeah it's a weird one. interesting story but the album itself is not really that great iirc! funny that light in the attic is trying it again.
― tylerw, Friday, 11 April 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link
yeah I really only wanna hear the one track
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 April 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link
fans of this thread will recognize a bunch of these but it's kind of mind-boggling how much of this I STILL have never heard
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 April 2014 20:16 (ten years ago) link
funny, in the new alex chilton bio, there's a bit about brian wilson calling chilton up in the mid 70s and trying to get him to come sing on ... "Shortnin' Bread." Why did Brian love that song so much?
― tylerw, Friday, 11 April 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link
cuz it's fuckin catchy!
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 April 2014 20:24 (ten years ago) link
haha, yeah. it seems to have been Wilson's White Whale. lol just found this -- THE SHORTNIN' BREAD SUITEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCvOiwUMNW8
― tylerw, Friday, 11 April 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link
A suite of the various times when Brian has incorporated the so-called "Shortenin' Bread" riff in his compositions and others. Descriptions in text with more detailed descriptions here:00:00-00:35 Original "Shortenin' Bread." Unreleased, intended for the Adult/Child release: track, bvs and bass vocal are from 1973, Carl's lead overdubbed in 1977. 00:35-01:14 "Shortenin' Bread" that was released on the L.A. Light album in 1979. It is unknown if Brian was involved with this version, it is known that Carl sings the lead and Dennis is on the bass vocal.01:56-02:10 Section from Brian's b-side "Too Much Sugar" from 1987, b-side to the "Let's Go To Heaven in My Car" single from the film Police Academy 4. One of my personal least-favorite BW songs.02:10-02:25 Section from "Walkin' the Line" from Brian's very good 1988 self-titled solo album.02:25-04:16 The majority of "Metal Beach" an epic (mostly) instrumental tune that Brian wrote in collaboration with Paul Schaffer and Dick Dale for Schaffer's Coast to Coast in 1989. Note Steve Douglas on saxophone (one of Brian's main call instrumentalists in the 60s) and Eugene E. Landy on the titular "metal beach."04:17-04:59 The coda to a collaboration with Rob Wasserman and Carnie Wilson called "Bells of Madness" for Wasserman's trio album. Released in February of 1994.05:00-06:20 The "Bread" relevant portions of Brian's cover of "Proud Mary" from 1992. Recorded with Don Was, this version is unreleased and Brian recorded a new version in 2006 which, in addition to being unbooted, has yet to see release. Those that have heard it say it is much better than this version, though I think the 1992 "Mary" is nothing to snoot at.06:20-06:37 A section of "South American," a collaboration with Jimmy Buffett and ex-wrestler Joe Thomas from Brian's Imagination album. Note, in addition to the ever-present saxophone, Jimmy's backing vocal.06:37-07:28 The tag to "No Wrong Notes in Heaven" a very groovy song written by Scott Bennet of Brian's band, with some input from Brian (no prizes on what his contribution is) released under the band name "The Dotted Line." Nick Walusko and Jeff Foskett from Brian's band also appear on this recording.07:28 to end. The "Bread" portions of "Goin' Home," from Brian's newest (and best) solo album That Lucky Old Sun.
― tylerw, Friday, 11 April 2014 20:31 (ten years ago) link
surely "too repetitive for Iggy Pop" is some kind of achievement
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 April 2014 20:33 (ten years ago) link
haha yeah that is one of my favorite beach boys stories.Section from Brian's b-side "Too Much Sugar" from 1987, b-side to the "Let's Go To Heaven in My Car" single from the film Police Academy 4 has a sort of terrifying poetry to it. Also "No Wrong Notes in Heaven" is the best song title ever.
― tylerw, Friday, 11 April 2014 20:36 (ten years ago) link
For starters, many of the titles have never been published, a process the Beach Boys seem reluctant to take on. (It is far easier to keep reissuing alternate versions or new mixes of popular hits.)
I know nothing about music publishing. Can anyone explain this? Would this really be a valid reason to keep anything unreleased?
― fit and working again, Friday, 11 April 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link
well, am thinking that if they've never been released and were just BW home tapes -- who actually owns the publishing on those? would it be whoever BW works with currently? Who represented him at the time? Does the whole Brother Records thing in late 60s-early 70s come into play?
― Dominique, Friday, 11 April 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link
Like, BW may have a deal that says "anything you write and release is published by X" -- but then, he may also have a deal that says "anything you write and release for the Beach Boys is published by Y", and if any of those songs, or even just parts of them were performed/released by the Beach Boys, it may be a matter of multiple people claiming ownership.
― Dominique, Friday, 11 April 2014 21:14 (ten years ago) link
^^^
publishing is such a racket
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 April 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
"Where Is She?" - Another sweet Wilson ballad from the Sunflower/Surf's Up sessions, which saw release on last year's Made in California box.
This is a deeply uncomfortable rewrite of "She's Leaving Home."
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 12 April 2014 01:17 (ten years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 14 April 2014 04:19 (ten years ago) link
Where's the love for "Shortnin' Bread"?
― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 14:06 (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^ bears reposting
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 15:54 (9 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^ bears rereposting
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Monday, 14 April 2014 12:28 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0YC3Z6lkBI
not bad but yeah def She's Leaving Home redux
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 April 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link
could've become something interesting given more development and production. I like the part where the title phrase is drawn out
― Lee626, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 01:27 (ten years ago) link