OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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this is some all-american stuff right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySZHeosB0rI

scott seward, Monday, 14 April 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link

its the american version of that verve video.

scott seward, Monday, 14 April 2014 20:54 (ten years ago) link

ILX's Girl Talk hatred is one of the most misguided things ever on this site. "Only WE can be music geeks! Everyone's OTAKU now! Ugh!" Seriously reeks of Star Wars fans complaining about chewbacca tea cozies or something

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 14 April 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link

i'm actually surprised you're not hating on him

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link

i've always rode for Girl Talk

this is just the aftertaste of the goon-culture days when everyone besides me and xhuxk was too shook to have any opinion on rap different than ethan's at risk of being called a herb or a kid-fucker

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 14 April 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link

herbs...
kid fuckers..
curbs...
herb fuckers!
herb fuckers on the bench!
/arlo guthrie

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:24 (ten years ago) link

*rolls eyes, dies*

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link

my dislike of girltalk came more from a vahid/"dahnce" POV than whatever ethan-phobic projection yr going on abt

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link

chewbacca tea cozies

*jizzes on belly*

Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link

ILX's Girl Talk hatred is one of the most misguided things ever on this site. "Only WE can be music geeks! Everyone's OTAKU now! Ugh!" Seriously reeks of Star Wars fans complaining about chewbacca tea cozies or something

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, April 14, 2014 5:15 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've always rode for Girl Talk

this is just the aftertaste of the goon-culture days when everyone besides me and xhuxk was too shook to have any opinion on rap different than ethan's at risk of being called a herb or a kid-fucker

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, April 14, 2014 5:17 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You are starting to overheat. I just don't like girl talk.

ביטקוין‎ (Hurting 2), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link

goon-culture days when everyone besides me and xhuxk was too shook to have any opinion on rap different than ethan's

dude fuck you

it's funny how that post is like the mirror image of what he's accusing *the entire rest of ILM* of doing

ביטקוין‎ (Hurting 2), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link

i understand why ilx doesn't like girl talk but my guess is that it boils more down to politics than snobbery. white suburban dude remixing popular radio for hipster listeners is never going to get broad acceptance here. it is just close enough to actual pop music to feel uncanny

Mordy , Monday, 14 April 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link

i just can't believe girl talk doesn't play his own instruments and write his own songs. can't we all agree that's what's really wrong with music nowadays?

smhphony orchestra (crüt), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link

ok, in retrospect, that ethan post was cray on my part hahaha

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 14 April 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link

it is just close enough to actual pop music to feel uncanny

I think there is something to this

ביטקוין‎ (Hurting 2), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link

i haven't heard much girl talk stuff but i know i didn't hate it. it felt more rap-oriented or hip-hop than indie/hipster stuff usually does. i can totally believe people lose their shit to it live. i mean i am an olde-tyme sampling/remix/megamix/edit fan, and i think he's got something. dunno if i could listen to a whole album of it, but in the 80's he might have been a cool freestyle edit/remix dude. maybe. i wouldn't mind hearing some of his good rap remixes. he must have some. or production for other people like that freeway thing.

scott seward, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:21 (ten years ago) link

i mostly just remember the girl talk black sabbath thing and i was into that. but then i loved rick rubin's we will rock you remix, so, you know...

scott seward, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:22 (ten years ago) link

yeah whiney i know you didn't start posting til like 2005 or whatever but i can assure you ethan was not the hip-hop consensus in early days. i liked that first really big girl talk mix (the one w/ the neutral milk hotel mashup), i kinda enjoyed it as similar to soulwax mixes etc only coming from an american perspective so there was this rooting in hip-hop and altrock and classic rock and amerindie instead of like betty boo and gary numan, reminded me of danger mouse's parties in the late 90s (he'd always get the crowd going to 'holland 1945' also). felt a little hilarious and really? to see ppl putting it on their year end lists but it was a good workout mix. the later ones didn't do as much for me and i was kinda surprised ppl were still enthusiastic about the guy, like whiney treating him like he's an unparalleled dj god is kinda amazing, but i don't doubt this guy could get a crowd ecstatic, as long as he didn't play any outkast i guess.

balls, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:32 (ten years ago) link

i was just thinking of the mid-2005 days when ethan and strongo were dogpiling on ol' Girl Talk

I mean, the thing I loved about him was that he came from the arty, quasi-political Negativland/John Oswald world of plunderphonics and somehow made it commercially viable. He's not some dude just slapping Jeezy YYYYEEEAAAHSSSS on Jimmy Eat World songs.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:43 (ten years ago) link

yeah i've heard so many shittier versions of what he does just from schmucks around town (which must mean there's hundreds of these guys in america alone) and these guys never hesitate to stop the party or the flow of what they're doing regardless of whether ppl are enjoying it to do some lazy 'look at me, i downloaded this app on my ipad!' trick or some clever drop, though really i'm talking more five to eight years ago, most of those guys are doing straight brostep now, i guess due to the decline of hip-hop w/ white millenials.

balls, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:52 (ten years ago) link

it's not that I'm baffled that girl talk is popular, more that I forget they exist roughly every other year

katherine, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link

girls keep talking, girls always...work it out

Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link

MUSIC CRITCS ARE THE ART OF PRETEND FORGETFULLNESS

balls, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link

oh for fuck's sake

katherine, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link

apologies for not properly following the writing guidelines from a 10-year-old thread

katherine, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link

o but you did!

balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:11 (ten years ago) link

don't sweat it -- you're in good company.

(ironically i forgot about that thread)

wat is teh waht (s.clover), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:12 (ten years ago) link

it's just a funny affectation, everybody does it

balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:42 (ten years ago) link

i did mit mystery hunt this year and one of the puzzles was based off girl talk's discography:

http://web.mit.edu/puzzle/www/2014/puzzle/monster_potatoes/

maura, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:50 (ten years ago) link

oh and here's the solution:
http://web.mit.edu/puzzle/www/2014/puzzle-solution/monster_potatoes/

maura, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:52 (ten years ago) link

and guess who figured out the conceit of the puzzle

that's right

maura, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:52 (ten years ago) link

freelance hellraiser?

balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 01:22 (ten years ago) link

Whiney otm

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:05 (ten years ago) link

I saw Girl Talk play to 120 ppl above a pub in 2006, it was great

would not go anywhere near the 1600-cap theatre shows he's played since

check my awesome two-bladed snobbishness!

brock out with your cock out (sic), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:05 (ten years ago) link

saw Girl Talk play to 120 ppl above a pub in 2006, it was great

yet how many of these attendees went on to form bands?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:21 (ten years ago) link

you don't start a band after seeing Girl Talk, you put you iPod in shuffle mode and find yourself unable to stop skipping to the next track every 30 seconds

posi riot (some dude), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:25 (ten years ago) link

I had no idea ILM hated Girl Talk and kinda wish this thread gave me a better idea of why, tbh. Scott otm too, I'm still loving his ep w Freeeway a lot so far as him doing hiphop stuff goes

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:27 (ten years ago) link

i just lump him in with the likes of matt & kim at this point, which is probably more the fault of me seeing him at bamboozle '09 than anything else

maura, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:28 (ten years ago) link

haha i have no idea what matt and kim sound like but had this vague assumption in my head that you have just completely overturned

balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:08 (ten years ago) link

and yeah echoing girl talk's kinda lineage in plunderphonics if you listen to the mix before night ripper you get more of a sense of that. as much eye rolling and tiresomeness eventually (well, pretty quickly i guess actually) came out of that mashup moment there's still alot there i remember fondly. also, for ppl who don't know, jason forrest aka donna summer became some kind of motivational sales coach guy, his motivational album (?) is on spotify. this, sadly, isn't but is still awesome - http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/song?q=Jason+Forrest+10+Amazing+Years

balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:17 (ten years ago) link

wait wait wait that's not really the same jason forrest is it?! the motivational guy???

Evan, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:18 (ten years ago) link

oh i mean girl talk and matt & kim at this point serve the 'festival music' function of being made for partying/glowsticking/dancing along with. girl talk just has more recognizable hooks than his compadres (although the time i saw axwell and he dropped songs by rhcp, the fray, and coldplay into his set probably dovetails with gt's sustaining appeal).

actually this (terrible) piece on outkast's place in the edm-heavy festival land kind of sums up gt's appeal at this point

http://edm.com/blog/why-its-EDMs-fault-Outkast-flopped-coachella-2014

maura, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:20 (ten years ago) link

haha i actually have no idea - i've looked at pics of both and been like 'maaaybe?', i might have prosopagnosia though, i have my doubts about my temporal lobes.

balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:26 (ten years ago) link

Yes, I'm absolutely trying to kill the thread.

Evan, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:56 (ten years ago) link

Maura that piece makes a lot of sense, unpleasantly written tho it may be, think hipster crowds've been heading in this direction since early 00s/electroclash rly

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 04:09 (ten years ago) link

Donna summer is fuckin awesome btw

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 06:21 (ten years ago) link


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