*rolls eyes, dies*
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
my dislike of girltalk came more from a vahid/"dahnce" POV than whatever ethan-phobic projection yr going on abt
chewbacca tea cozies
*jizzes on belly*
― Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
ILX's Girl Talk hatred is one of the most misguided things ever on this site. "Only WE can be music geeks! Everyone's OTAKU now! Ugh!" Seriously reeks of Star Wars fans complaining about chewbacca tea cozies or something
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, April 14, 2014 5:15 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i've always rode for Girl Talk
this is just the aftertaste of the goon-culture days when everyone besides me and xhuxk was too shook to have any opinion on rap different than ethan's at risk of being called a herb or a kid-fucker
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, April 14, 2014 5:17 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You are starting to overheat. I just don't like girl talk.
― ביטקוין (Hurting 2), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link
goon-culture days when everyone besides me and xhuxk was too shook to have any opinion on rap different than ethan's
dude fuck you
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link
it's funny how that post is like the mirror image of what he's accusing *the entire rest of ILM* of doing
― ביטקוין (Hurting 2), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link
i understand why ilx doesn't like girl talk but my guess is that it boils more down to politics than snobbery. white suburban dude remixing popular radio for hipster listeners is never going to get broad acceptance here. it is just close enough to actual pop music to feel uncanny
― Mordy , Monday, 14 April 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link
i just can't believe girl talk doesn't play his own instruments and write his own songs. can't we all agree that's what's really wrong with music nowadays?
― smhphony orchestra (crüt), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link
ok, in retrospect, that ethan post was cray on my part hahaha
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 14 April 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link
it is just close enough to actual pop music to feel uncanny
I think there is something to this
― ביטקוין (Hurting 2), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link
i haven't heard much girl talk stuff but i know i didn't hate it. it felt more rap-oriented or hip-hop than indie/hipster stuff usually does. i can totally believe people lose their shit to it live. i mean i am an olde-tyme sampling/remix/megamix/edit fan, and i think he's got something. dunno if i could listen to a whole album of it, but in the 80's he might have been a cool freestyle edit/remix dude. maybe. i wouldn't mind hearing some of his good rap remixes. he must have some. or production for other people like that freeway thing.
― scott seward, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:21 (ten years ago) link
i mostly just remember the girl talk black sabbath thing and i was into that. but then i loved rick rubin's we will rock you remix, so, you know...
― scott seward, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:22 (ten years ago) link
yeah whiney i know you didn't start posting til like 2005 or whatever but i can assure you ethan was not the hip-hop consensus in early days. i liked that first really big girl talk mix (the one w/ the neutral milk hotel mashup), i kinda enjoyed it as similar to soulwax mixes etc only coming from an american perspective so there was this rooting in hip-hop and altrock and classic rock and amerindie instead of like betty boo and gary numan, reminded me of danger mouse's parties in the late 90s (he'd always get the crowd going to 'holland 1945' also). felt a little hilarious and really? to see ppl putting it on their year end lists but it was a good workout mix. the later ones didn't do as much for me and i was kinda surprised ppl were still enthusiastic about the guy, like whiney treating him like he's an unparalleled dj god is kinda amazing, but i don't doubt this guy could get a crowd ecstatic, as long as he didn't play any outkast i guess.
― balls, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:32 (ten years ago) link
i was just thinking of the mid-2005 days when ethan and strongo were dogpiling on ol' Girl Talk
I mean, the thing I loved about him was that he came from the arty, quasi-political Negativland/John Oswald world of plunderphonics and somehow made it commercially viable. He's not some dude just slapping Jeezy YYYYEEEAAAHSSSS on Jimmy Eat World songs.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:43 (ten years ago) link
yeah i've heard so many shittier versions of what he does just from schmucks around town (which must mean there's hundreds of these guys in america alone) and these guys never hesitate to stop the party or the flow of what they're doing regardless of whether ppl are enjoying it to do some lazy 'look at me, i downloaded this app on my ipad!' trick or some clever drop, though really i'm talking more five to eight years ago, most of those guys are doing straight brostep now, i guess due to the decline of hip-hop w/ white millenials.
― balls, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:52 (ten years ago) link
it's not that I'm baffled that girl talk is popular, more that I forget they exist roughly every other year
― katherine, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link
girls keep talking, girls always...work it out
― Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link
MUSIC CRITCS ARE THE ART OF PRETEND FORGETFULLNESS
― balls, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link
oh for fuck's sake
― katherine, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link
apologies for not properly following the writing guidelines from a 10-year-old thread
― katherine, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link
o but you did!
― balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:11 (ten years ago) link
don't sweat it -- you're in good company.
(ironically i forgot about that thread)
― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:12 (ten years ago) link
it's just a funny affectation, everybody does it
― balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:42 (ten years ago) link
i did mit mystery hunt this year and one of the puzzles was based off girl talk's discography:
http://web.mit.edu/puzzle/www/2014/puzzle/monster_potatoes/
― maura, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:50 (ten years ago) link
oh and here's the solution:http://web.mit.edu/puzzle/www/2014/puzzle-solution/monster_potatoes/
― maura, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:52 (ten years ago) link
and guess who figured out the conceit of the puzzle
that's right
freelance hellraiser?
― balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 01:22 (ten years ago) link
Whiney otm
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:05 (ten years ago) link
I saw Girl Talk play to 120 ppl above a pub in 2006, it was great
would not go anywhere near the 1600-cap theatre shows he's played since
check my awesome two-bladed snobbishness!
― brock out with your cock out (sic), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:05 (ten years ago) link
saw Girl Talk play to 120 ppl above a pub in 2006, it was great
yet how many of these attendees went on to form bands?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:21 (ten years ago) link
you don't start a band after seeing Girl Talk, you put you iPod in shuffle mode and find yourself unable to stop skipping to the next track every 30 seconds
― posi riot (some dude), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:25 (ten years ago) link
I had no idea ILM hated Girl Talk and kinda wish this thread gave me a better idea of why, tbh. Scott otm too, I'm still loving his ep w Freeeway a lot so far as him doing hiphop stuff goes
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:27 (ten years ago) link
i just lump him in with the likes of matt & kim at this point, which is probably more the fault of me seeing him at bamboozle '09 than anything else
― maura, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:28 (ten years ago) link
haha i have no idea what matt and kim sound like but had this vague assumption in my head that you have just completely overturned
― balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:08 (ten years ago) link
and yeah echoing girl talk's kinda lineage in plunderphonics if you listen to the mix before night ripper you get more of a sense of that. as much eye rolling and tiresomeness eventually (well, pretty quickly i guess actually) came out of that mashup moment there's still alot there i remember fondly. also, for ppl who don't know, jason forrest aka donna summer became some kind of motivational sales coach guy, his motivational album (?) is on spotify. this, sadly, isn't but is still awesome - http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/song?q=Jason+Forrest+10+Amazing+Years
― balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:17 (ten years ago) link
wait wait wait that's not really the same jason forrest is it?! the motivational guy???
― Evan, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:18 (ten years ago) link
oh i mean girl talk and matt & kim at this point serve the 'festival music' function of being made for partying/glowsticking/dancing along with. girl talk just has more recognizable hooks than his compadres (although the time i saw axwell and he dropped songs by rhcp, the fray, and coldplay into his set probably dovetails with gt's sustaining appeal).
actually this (terrible) piece on outkast's place in the edm-heavy festival land kind of sums up gt's appeal at this point
http://edm.com/blog/why-its-EDMs-fault-Outkast-flopped-coachella-2014
― maura, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:20 (ten years ago) link
haha i actually have no idea - i've looked at pics of both and been like 'maaaybe?', i might have prosopagnosia though, i have my doubts about my temporal lobes.
― balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:26 (ten years ago) link
I did the same thing.
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1534276_697687620264711_26413011_n.jpghttp://www.viceland.com/blogs/nl/files/2010/01/j_forrest_05_cut_web.jpg
aaargh I need answers
― Evan, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:52 (ten years ago) link
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1656012_715049978528475_1406772524_n.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPiMTtobWVE9cN7stmCTfYR78VH9f0Z3xUfugyqZXo9YMlvtcL
― Evan, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:55 (ten years ago) link
Yes, I'm absolutely trying to kill the thread.
― Evan, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:56 (ten years ago) link
Maura that piece makes a lot of sense, unpleasantly written tho it may be, think hipster crowds've been heading in this direction since early 00s/electroclash rly
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 04:09 (ten years ago) link
Donna summer is fuckin awesome btw
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 06:21 (ten years ago) link
Oh yeah that doesn't seem to be the same guy (Donna Summer/motivational speaker), too bad
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 06:25 (ten years ago) link
Fwiw i don't hate Girl Talk, it's just kind of amazing. I saw him around a decade and the crowd for the show was really small and not really dancing or even really all that into it, just there because he was Girl Talk and he had some buzz. And yeah at the time it felt like last gasps from electroclash not the start of some big-name festival guy. I mean, if I knew how music worked, maybe I would be in Girl Talk's place.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:05 (ten years ago) link
I don't listen to Girl Talk but I get it. Also, in interviews Gillis is surprisingly thoughtful about the process.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link
dude was a doctor of some sort doing this shit on the weekend if i remember correctlyand yes, I can't help but appreciate his no samples cleared freebie mixes distributed on the internet back when that was a fairly novel conceit. plus i liked night ripper as much as the next kid with a limewire accountbut much like no one coulda assumed cee-lo would be the darling of the reality show set, I don't remember anyone saying "this girl talk guy, he's a definite draw on the festival circuit for the next ten years, that's bankable money there"
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:14 (ten years ago) link
Not everyone's as abreast of the musical zeitgeist as your average ILMer, not least festival audiences. That's not meant to be snobby, in fact I'm often surprised at how quickly Ilxors are ready to reject a style as being old hat when to the rest of the world it's only just kicking off. Thinking about dubstep -> EDM; minimal techno -> deep house etc... If the mashup scene feels a bit ten-years ago to us, it's bound to appeal to a broad range of people who just want to dance around to pop songs in a tent.
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link
Hey, I never would have guessed the guy behind the low hanging fruit that was The Grey Album would quickly go on to be a principal collaborator with Cee-Lo, the dude from the Shins, Beck, U2, Black Keys, Damon Albarn and others.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:19 (ten years ago) link
in a world where this guy i've never heard of is worth 42 mil anything is possible:
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/richest-djs/judge-jules-net-worth/
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link