i just lump him in with the likes of matt & kim at this point, which is probably more the fault of me seeing him at bamboozle '09 than anything else
― maura, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:28 (ten years ago) link
haha i have no idea what matt and kim sound like but had this vague assumption in my head that you have just completely overturned
― balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:08 (ten years ago) link
and yeah echoing girl talk's kinda lineage in plunderphonics if you listen to the mix before night ripper you get more of a sense of that. as much eye rolling and tiresomeness eventually (well, pretty quickly i guess actually) came out of that mashup moment there's still alot there i remember fondly. also, for ppl who don't know, jason forrest aka donna summer became some kind of motivational sales coach guy, his motivational album (?) is on spotify. this, sadly, isn't but is still awesome - http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/song?q=Jason+Forrest+10+Amazing+Years
― balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:17 (ten years ago) link
wait wait wait that's not really the same jason forrest is it?! the motivational guy???
― Evan, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:18 (ten years ago) link
oh i mean girl talk and matt & kim at this point serve the 'festival music' function of being made for partying/glowsticking/dancing along with. girl talk just has more recognizable hooks than his compadres (although the time i saw axwell and he dropped songs by rhcp, the fray, and coldplay into his set probably dovetails with gt's sustaining appeal).
actually this (terrible) piece on outkast's place in the edm-heavy festival land kind of sums up gt's appeal at this point
http://edm.com/blog/why-its-EDMs-fault-Outkast-flopped-coachella-2014
― maura, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:20 (ten years ago) link
haha i actually have no idea - i've looked at pics of both and been like 'maaaybe?', i might have prosopagnosia though, i have my doubts about my temporal lobes.
― balls, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:26 (ten years ago) link
I did the same thing.
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1534276_697687620264711_26413011_n.jpghttp://www.viceland.com/blogs/nl/files/2010/01/j_forrest_05_cut_web.jpg
aaargh I need answers
― Evan, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:52 (ten years ago) link
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1656012_715049978528475_1406772524_n.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPiMTtobWVE9cN7stmCTfYR78VH9f0Z3xUfugyqZXo9YMlvtcL
― Evan, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:55 (ten years ago) link
Yes, I'm absolutely trying to kill the thread.
― Evan, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:56 (ten years ago) link
Maura that piece makes a lot of sense, unpleasantly written tho it may be, think hipster crowds've been heading in this direction since early 00s/electroclash rly
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 04:09 (ten years ago) link
Donna summer is fuckin awesome btw
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 06:21 (ten years ago) link
Oh yeah that doesn't seem to be the same guy (Donna Summer/motivational speaker), too bad
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 06:25 (ten years ago) link
Fwiw i don't hate Girl Talk, it's just kind of amazing. I saw him around a decade and the crowd for the show was really small and not really dancing or even really all that into it, just there because he was Girl Talk and he had some buzz. And yeah at the time it felt like last gasps from electroclash not the start of some big-name festival guy. I mean, if I knew how music worked, maybe I would be in Girl Talk's place.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:05 (ten years ago) link
I don't listen to Girl Talk but I get it. Also, in interviews Gillis is surprisingly thoughtful about the process.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link
dude was a doctor of some sort doing this shit on the weekend if i remember correctlyand yes, I can't help but appreciate his no samples cleared freebie mixes distributed on the internet back when that was a fairly novel conceit. plus i liked night ripper as much as the next kid with a limewire accountbut much like no one coulda assumed cee-lo would be the darling of the reality show set, I don't remember anyone saying "this girl talk guy, he's a definite draw on the festival circuit for the next ten years, that's bankable money there"
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:14 (ten years ago) link
Not everyone's as abreast of the musical zeitgeist as your average ILMer, not least festival audiences. That's not meant to be snobby, in fact I'm often surprised at how quickly Ilxors are ready to reject a style as being old hat when to the rest of the world it's only just kicking off. Thinking about dubstep -> EDM; minimal techno -> deep house etc... If the mashup scene feels a bit ten-years ago to us, it's bound to appeal to a broad range of people who just want to dance around to pop songs in a tent.
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link
Hey, I never would have guessed the guy behind the low hanging fruit that was The Grey Album would quickly go on to be a principal collaborator with Cee-Lo, the dude from the Shins, Beck, U2, Black Keys, Damon Albarn and others.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:19 (ten years ago) link
in a world where this guy i've never heard of is worth 42 mil anything is possible:
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/richest-djs/judge-jules-net-worth/
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link
I've never heard or heard of Judge Jules, but I suspect I would rather listen to Girl Talk.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:27 (ten years ago) link
UK trance/Ibiza stalwart. NB. not a qualified judge.
― Angkor Waht (Neil S), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link
Judge Jules is still a going concern eh? That's a blast from 1999.
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link
judge jules >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> girl talk
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:36 (ten years ago) link
perpetually dumb. should have called it How Big Of A Jerk Are You?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/perpetua/how-much-of-a-music-nerd-are-you
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 16:53 (ten years ago) link
not music writing really...just took over my facebook...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link
should have called it How Big Of A Jerk Are You
the title and URL already mix'n'matches 'nerd' and 'snob' so maybe they already do on the front page or something
― From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link
just say no to quizzes
― maura, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 17:05 (ten years ago) link
ugh I couldn't even get through five tickboxes of that, def should just be called "are you a dick"
― ביטקוין (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link
And fuck all of these buzzfeed quizzes.
Failure to support our clickbait, page view, slideshow economy could spell disaster for the recovery.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link
http://i.lv3.hbo.com/assets/images/series/enlightened/episodes/season-01/10/burn-it-down-1024.jpg
― maura, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 17:10 (ten years ago) link
that guy man
― waterbabies (waterface), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 17:13 (ten years ago) link
Jesus http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2014/04/15/301440765/why-we-fight-about-pop-music?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20140415#partthree
― waterbabies (waterface), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link
how is that bad
― katherine, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link
where do i start
― waterbabies (waterface), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 17:54 (ten years ago) link
ann powers and carl zoilus are two of the best pop critics working
― katherine, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link
i just scanned that but it read pretty fucking great actually
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link
just because they are the best dont make that article good
― waterbabies (waterface), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link
We still have this spectacle of people (mostly straight white men of a certain age) angry that we treat music made with drum machines, or for dance floors, or with rapping (unless it's "political"), or by Beyoncé with the same respect and depth of thought we'd devote to anthems sung by bands of guys with guitars
Strawman City
― waterbabies (waterface), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link
brb getting popcorn
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link
stale popcorn
lol
― good and relaxing like akon dont matter (intheblanks), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link
if you look at the comments on this or any similar article it'll quickly become clear it isn't a straw man at all
― katherine, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link
Plus, look at that 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair poll mentioned. The Washington Post comment board is often filled with such comments in regards to certain music articles.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:23 (ten years ago) link
Worst comments thread I've read, ever :(
― poopsites attract (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link
oh yeah comments on a news article, like i'm gonna read those and learn something. not.
― waterbabies (waterface), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link
online comments are such bs
kinda miss the days when not every fuckin' thing on the internet was followed by line after line of hateful garbage
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:27 (ten years ago) link
website guest books > comments sections
― Sufjan Cougar Mellencamp (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link
thank you for visiting my website. please sign my guestbook.
― Sufjan Cougar Mellencamp (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link
so cordial
The worst passage Wilson writes isn't the "strawmanning" thing, but the part where he weirdly opens part 4 by saying we shouldn't use "poptimism" basically because it sounds lame, but we should still use "rockism."
― good and relaxing like akon dont matter (intheblanks), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:38 (ten years ago) link