Future - Honest (2014)

read an interview w future where he said hes not having superstar features anymore cause its too much hassle getting everyone to show up and sign off and this album wouldve been out a year ago if it wasnt for them so theres that

True story is his arrival I guess but same damn time > any song on it

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, April 20, 2014 4:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or 'gone to the moon'

i will give 'long time comin' the edge over 'runnin through a check although barely

Didn't he once upon a time say Future Hendrix would have no features? lol smh

and then future hendrix never came out

Anyone know who did the "I Be U" beat?

Detail

Such a lazy album cover.

Detail

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, April 21, 2014 4:16 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thanks.

Don't get the dislike for the Pusha verse in this thread. a couple parts I can see but as a whole it's straight

there is a real nitpicky element to this thread

ILX? Being nitpicky?

this album has some really incredible moments and i wish it had been tightened up just a little more - feel like i shouldn't have to be cherrypicking from it or gritting my teeth through kanye or pusha

the andré track is actually really unexpectedly great though! "look ahead", "i be u", "special", "side effects" all brilliant. i never thought "sh!t" was more than a minor pleasure but it turns out i forgot what a booming entrance it makes

"look ahead" kinda gives me "power" vibes?? in a good way

the first album was so in the synthed out mike will zone it had a real sense cohesion and culture, this one sounds way more general and cosmopolitan, feels a lil unfocused, lots of samples, a bunch of features from regular ass rappers that dont really fit imo, idk

futures whole voice and mode on this one feels really tuned up too, he was more mellow last time, thats not a judgement tho feelin the new places hes going with his voice

yeah that's kind of what makes its highs so high and its missteps so irritating

xp

mike will only has 3 tracks on this i feel like we might look back on 'honest' as one of the big signals that metro boomin has sort of passed him up as atlanta's hottest rap producer (pop/r&b a diff story)

as much as i love the "Honest" and "The Blanguage" beats, that seems really premature, i don't see it for him like that yet. Mike Will has been kinda sorta shooting blanks for a minute, though.

just:

smoothed out by a T-painian dollop

wait i was sort of conflating metro boomin and dun deal, lol

anyway i think all of the following are hotter than mike will right now as far as pure rap goes

dun deal
metro boomin
808 mafia
london on da track

i can't tell if mike will "fell off" in the lugerian sense or if he's just moved onto a totally different class of rappers

different class of artists**

between dj mustard, detail and those aforementioned producers i've been wondering if mike will is already "over" like 6 months after we all hailed him as music's new kingmaker

6 months is the new lifespan.

ya the producer hype cycle is brutal

I still say that the Move That Dope beat is vicious. Put some other non-song-ruining guests on there (Tip, Kendrick, even Yo Gotti or the Gucci Mane) and the song would have blown up massively. Pusha was the wrong call, Pharrell's verse is dope but weird and Casino, as much as I love him, doesn't help either.

otm was thinking this morning it'd be better even if the chorus was just looped for 2 mins instead of the features

dont like pharells verse neither

or his hat, folks

sidenote since he didn't do the beat but it'd be cool if Pharrell was still good at minimalist beats these days, as opposed to it being the style he's worst at

I think its sequence is all fucked up. I'm trying a HARD SHIT at the front, ATL stuff in the middle, soft serve stuff at the end (and adding "Real and True") and seeing how that treats me

what songs = ATL stuff? i'm sure it's obvious to more educated rap fans, but i'm curious

the Andre 3000 song, for starters. It's his best verse since -- hell, I don't even know.

i guess i thought he meant stuff that was super ATL influenced on the beat? i dunno. even i know where Andre is from

i haven't even heard that song, pulling it up now

wait, is this the "bitches" song they did at Coachella? kinda disliked that one

i dont like the andre song but apparently i'm pretty alone on that

nah it's pretty weak. def. one of the dud post-Idlewild Andre raps too

it's definitely kinda jarring to have Andre 3K show up with by far the most ignorant shit on a supposedly ignorant rapper's album

Don't like that song

is Future supposedly ignorant?

tbh I haven't listened to Andre's words, just the flow. This album is long. "I Be U" was the other standout besides "Move That Dope."

is Future supposedly ignorant?

― alpine static, Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:01 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

to people that think every southern rapper younger than Andre is destroying the genre, yeah

So...onion a/v club commenters, racists, and Ghostface a decade ago

well and lots of white people my age (37) who think "good" rap ended with public enemy, atcq and/or outkast and all new stuff sucks...i see the point

I'm trying a HARD SHIT at the front

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:54 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

Whiney is like, gross

http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/11/south_park_mouth_poo-99214.gif

So...onion a/v club commenters, racists, and Ghostface a decade ago
--Whiney G. Weingarten

lol at the idea that there isn't still a strong and very vocal army of rap purists (of all ages) who see people like future, rich homie quan, young thug et al as destructive forces

one might even go as far as to say that the real racist is the guy who thinks only white people hate on "ignorant" rap

when rappers sing thats bad, give me a rapper who doesnt do singing any day of the week folks

singing rappers make me feel some type of way

I still say that the Move That Dope beat is vicious. Put some other non-song-ruining guests on there (Tip, Kendrick, even Yo Gotti or the Gucci Mane) and the song would have blown up massively. Pusha was the wrong call, Pharrell's verse is dope but weird and Casino, as much as I love him, doesn't help either.

― longneck, Tuesday, April 22, 2014 7:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this is right, the beat and hook still elevate it enough but that's despite the verses (i like pharrell, casino is better than he's credited for but only in terms of energy, future is only adequate, pusha is horrible). i assume remixes might solve this for us in the end

hahahaha this kanye verse

^^^ I've been cut and pasting that since 2007.