Hah I didn't read any of the rest of the thread. I just didn't get the idea that there isn't much going on/notable regarding the record. Glad that it is not the case for me, it just rules.
― grandavis, Friday, 25 April 2014 15:34 (ten years ago) link
yeah i dunno re: feminism -- i mean, eno probably had a lot of weird ideas at the time. he was a weird dude!
― tylerw, Friday, 25 April 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link
he was a weird dude and honestly i don't care what he thinks about feminism then or now
there's a part in "baby's on fire" that has been stuck in my head for 14 years
― Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Friday, 25 April 2014 16:04 (ten years ago) link
I like Another Green World and Before and After Science, but somehow I just can't get into this record.
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 25 April 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link
all four of those vocal records are so great that it makes me upset that he didn't continue banging them out. I know its not really like Eno to continue doing the same thing but it's such a great run and all those records are unparalleled in their own way
― frogbs, Friday, 25 April 2014 16:14 (ten years ago) link
it is my third favorite of the enorawk quadrilogy after Tiger and Green but I do love it and I LOOOOOOOVE Needles
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 April 2014 16:16 (ten years ago) link
i think what Green and Tiger have over Jets is the sound of them is so distinctive and spatial and pleasing and Jets does have that garage psych feel which is fine but not what Eno would end up being ~about~
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 April 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link
It ws wt he ws abt at the time tho
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 25 April 2014 16:29 (ten years ago) link
yeah that was a dumb comment on my part.
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 April 2014 16:32 (ten years ago) link
Every song title on this album is great too. The songs are also ridiculously fun to sing. All the way through!! Great album for words IMO.
Blank Frank is the messenger of your doom and your destruction!
― Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Friday, 25 April 2014 16:35 (ten years ago) link
And the whole approach to recording/making this rec ws v Eno, really
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 25 April 2014 16:41 (ten years ago) link
Some of them lose, and some of them lose
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 25 April 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link
FYI:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paw_Paw_Negro_Blowtorch
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Friday, 25 April 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link
"Dead Finks Don't Talk" was my favorite. That bit that sounds like an Elvis impersonation is gold. I loved Eno's approach to writing lyrics - "The biology of purpose keeps my nose above the surface" is one of my favorite lines. You have to really strain for it to mean anything but it flows so nicely!
― frogbs, Friday, 25 April 2014 16:53 (ten years ago) link
That bit that sounds like an Elvis impersonation
think eno was going for something else here
― PhetamineGrrrn (wins), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link
maybe it's just hard to hear with hindsight (hindhearing?) but HCTWJ just doesn't seem all that sonically interesting to me. Maybe I need to listen to it on really killer speakers or something.
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link
Have you seen Velvet Goldmine?
― Kilgore Haggard Replica (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link
probably! but I can't figure what? is it Ferry?
― frogbs, Friday, 25 April 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link
Yup
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link
It's not sonically interesting so much as it's arrangement/production interesting
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link
its interesting how eno and ferry were both singing in that snotty quavery style they'd abandon so hard p soon
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:17 (ten years ago) link
wrt ferry the order in which i heard roxy and his stuff means that i learned early on that his purpose was to ensheath me in comfort and luxury so i can't help hearing early roxy singing as "sounding like Warm Jets" even though it's vice versa
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
I hate that style, xp
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
I guess in retrospect I can tell, but I heard Eno before Roxy, and for the longest time I thought it was Eno singing "Mother of Pearl."
― dlp9001, Friday, 25 April 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link
given the chaaanceI'll die like a baaaaabyyyyy
― PhetamineGrrrn (wins), Friday, 25 April 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link
and that's what baby's been reduced to
― Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Friday, 25 April 2014 19:10 (ten years ago) link
this album is good but TTT(BS) has somewhat devalued it in my mind by being so utterly, phenomenally brilliant
― imago, Friday, 25 April 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link
*TTM(BS)
― imago, Friday, 25 April 2014 21:32 (ten years ago) link
Reading through this thread, since I'm currently reading David Sheppard's Eno book, and I had never even heard about the Black and White Minstrel Show.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/Black_and_White_Minstrel_Show.jpg
jfc, this went on until 1978?
― djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 April 2014 21:47 (ten years ago) link
6:27:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cYbU_dOYHI#t=368
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 April 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
i like this album a lot, but i feel where you're coming from, hurting, for awhile i couldn't stand eno or cale vocalwise.
― brimstead, Saturday, 26 April 2014 03:51 (ten years ago) link
it's not as 'pleasant' a listen as "another green world", but i think it has a similarly playful approach to arrangements and guitar tones
― brimstead, Saturday, 26 April 2014 03:54 (ten years ago) link
jamming this now on a Saturday morning
bass solo in Needles rules
substitute that rhymes with dissolute = prostitute?
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:12 (ten years ago) link
hmm maybe that is a synth solo in Paw Paw, not gtr
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link
love the cymbal-ticking light touch drums on Baby's On Fire
Fripp guitar solo is one of his most undeniable
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link
For years I assumed that was Manzanera doing that solo. Someone here set me straight.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link
I was pretty baffled by this record when I first heard it about 20 years ago; all I knew of Eno was his brilliant Roxy work and my unfair view of "that hissing shit on those Bowie records" (a view I have since revised considerably). I did not expect the melodic power-pop herein. Love it.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:21 (ten years ago) link
I also love the move of putting a 2 1/2 minute freakout gtr solo into the middle of a 3 minute song
lovely treated gtr solo by Manzanera on Cindy Tells Me, I've always liked the backing vocals too
Driving Me Backwards is the only song here I will not vehemently defend, kind of a monochromatic downer
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:24 (ten years ago) link
Tarfumes otm
― Choogle Plus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link
aside from On Some Faraway Beach being incredibly goddamn beautiful, I love the way everything else in the mix slowly overtakes the piano line as the song progresses
side 2 of this is maybe my favorite side of the 4 vocal records
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:32 (ten years ago) link
onslaught of Blank Frank, the density of the bass really helps, the wall of gtr scree freakout (Manzanera?) one minute in is really something
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:34 (ten years ago) link
speaking of lyrics there are some particularly good ones in Blank Frank
"the only time he speaks is in incomprehensible proverbs"
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link
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I dig the warbly piano, but yeah, if Warm Jets has a failing, it's this song. If it has a failing.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link
yeah the piano is my favorite part as well
oh perfect masters
they thrive on disasters
they all look so harmless
TILL THEY FIND THEIR WAY UP HERE
all the weird little backing vocal details in Dead Finks, love it
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:41 (ten years ago) link
aside from all the gorgeous melody in Some Of Them Are Old, it has that sweet little slide solo
so many moments like that hidden in this record
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link
I just realized that I've probably passed the 30-year mark on listening to this record (less than others posters itt)
still holds up
remember me, remember me...
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link
can someone who owns the lyric book tell me what the actual words to the title track are?
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link
nothing to saaaay, nothing to saaaaay
― avinit garde (wins), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link
that's all I know
― avinit garde (wins), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:49 (ten years ago) link
Driving Me Backwards is a fav for me
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link