nakh, what do you think of the director Alan Clarke?
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link
No, over a year and a year and a half later, and did not contain Langham
― Gritty Shakur (sic), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link
there's a lot of unpleasantness, at its best there was a certain ambiguity about the amount of hate involved and how it worked in terms of sitcom laugh cues, sometimes it doesn't work in a reflexive sense and is just crudely unpleasant
the premise is that satire against the hated political class is essentially conservative and anodyne, so it inverts it by identifying directly with the political class and against the hateful hoi polloi that bemuse them, 'tabards and mean little mouths' etc
it's not a completely coherent piece of work but its subtlety came from presentation of amorality not in a pure will-to-power sense (this became overplayed once sitcom legend tucker became the focus) but more as structural inertia / death drive and paranoia, abbott is essentially vapid and lost, a papery nothing
therefore it's probably the cultural best response to the iraq war and the third way that exists
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link
haven't seen anything by alan clarke, don't have a lot of interest in british films of that era but should probably see 'elephant' which a number of people i rate seem to like
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 23:09 (ten years ago) link
I always preferred Leigh for Meantime, the play for today triumphs and Life Is Sweet. It constantly beats all that "I am the fucking daddy around here" bollocks.
― xelab, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link
I wouldn't say "Scum" is his best work. I like it but it does have a things wrong with it. His TV stuff is much better than his movies in general. I love "Contact", "Christine" and "Road" a lot.
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 23:51 (ten years ago) link
a *few* things wrong with it.
I like Mike Leigh a lot too. I've been meaning to watch "Meantime" for a while now.
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link
Nakh, what do you think of Dom P and Momus as a) ILX0rs and b) as internet personalities?
― online hardman, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 08:21 (ten years ago) link
good q
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 11:15 (ten years ago) link
momus as an ilx poster was mostly alright and is usually the least embarassing person on any 2001 era threads that get revived where he is doing his titillating lil apercus about lacan and japanese rape porn shtick to an interchangeable cast of belle and sebastian fans on first name terms
as an internet personality he remains resolutely early 2000s and it would be deathly dispiriting to find he is still keeping it going on twitter or whatever
dom p as an ilx poster no longer seems to be quite the same king under the mountain (whoever the italian version of that is) to the remaining spirit-of-'07 posters who have let go of their cause of anarchy that was beyond tenability now that someone like 'how's life' better exemplifies the spirit of the age
as an internet personality he has probably gone onto better things, idk? talented vindictive writer, could maybe develop into some sort of less lyrical jonathan meades type
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link
do chaki next
― Mordy, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 17:10 (ten years ago) link
hmmn
probably the second most interesting mexican jew of the mid 2000s after ariel pink
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 17:15 (ten years ago) link
surprised your so soft on momus frankly
― goole, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 17:35 (ten years ago) link
what aspects of momus did u most dislike?
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 17:41 (ten years ago) link
jesus, a possessive vs contraction typo
i think it would have to be his sideways shit-talking imperviously blind way of writing and thinking about everything
that's just my recollection tho
― goole, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link
Current Tokyo fashion is reggae style; big woolly hats. I find this a lot more acceptable than trucker hats because the underclass it references Jamaican black spliffed-up musicians rather than American white trash redneck drivers. I mean, break it down:
Jamaican: They are Jamaican. (Left wing poor country value.)Black: They are black. (Left wing racial value.)Spliffed up: They smoke dope. (Left wing peace vibe.)Musician: Creative. (Left wing expressive occupation value.)
American: They are American. (Right wing rich country value.)White: They are white. (Right wing colonial bastard value.)Trash: They are lower class. (Right wing populist value.)Redneck: Not urban. (Right wing 'private property, soil, C&W, patriotism' type value.)Drivers: Aggressive individualist job. (Right wing occupation value.)
So are trucker hats (no matter how 'ironic') a youth culture trend that could only happen under the Republicans? Why are the Williamsburgers not wearing big woolly rasta hats? Is it because they're not 'woolly liberals' right now?
― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:57 AM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― goole, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
does he ghostwrite for greg gutfield now?
― goole, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 17:49 (ten years ago) link
his endearingly naive anti-americanism, insistence on anglo/non-anglo as binary to understand all of culture is quite endearing, reminds me of the cockroach shakespeare dude
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link
so glad i caught up on this thread *rests chin on hands*. i was always secretly pro-momus even when seeking noise approval. who was the cockroach shakespeare dude?
― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link
i listened to some of momus' recent surrealist podcast and it was really good imo, propah twilight-zone resonance fm shit
matt, Cockroach News of Cockroach England
― imago, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 23:31 (ten years ago) link
ah yes
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 8 May 2014 15:39 (ten years ago) link
were you former DiS noize hardman Geirogeirgegege? or do you just share an old username.
― online hardman, Thursday, 8 May 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link
yes.
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 8 May 2014 15:59 (ten years ago) link
i'm thinking of starting to read fiction again soon -- any recommendations?
― markers, Thursday, 8 May 2014 16:04 (ten years ago) link
lol i am not nor have i ever been a contributor to the drownedinsound site or forums
cursory search suggests that this hardman was simply named 'Gerogerigegege' which is just the name of the japanese noise group, not with the 'geir' modification
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 May 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link
tom mccarthy's remainder is so good, also relatively recent enough that i simply have to recommend that
if you want something a bit less obvious, inferences from a sabre by magris is my favourite short novel
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 May 2014 16:09 (ten years ago) link
thank you!
― markers, Thursday, 8 May 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link
can vouch for 'inferences from a sabre' — still need to read 'danube'
― clouds, Friday, 9 May 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/4kO5xZU.jpg
― 龜, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 20:15 (ten years ago) link
http://www.necpress.com/tickimg/insectlogoshirt.jpg
― TMI@JFC.U_U (wins), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 20:22 (ten years ago) link
Nils / Nakhy, here's an easy one for you:
What are you listening to these days?
― ∞, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 21:26 (ten years ago) link
things
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Friday, 13 June 2014 00:49 (ten years ago) link
is there a chinese character for
i like the vagueness of the latin res = things, or a lot of other things other than just things
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Friday, 13 June 2014 00:53 (ten years ago) link
things u like about albums by bands
― sarahell, Friday, 13 June 2014 00:54 (ten years ago) link
― ∞
chiastic slide, dopesmoker, revolutionary pekinese opera ver 128
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Friday, 13 June 2014 00:55 (ten years ago) link
those are all good albums by bands
The Chinese word for 'things' is 东西 (at least in standard Mandarin)
They are the characters for East and West, respectively
I think it probably is called that because it evokes 'everything between the East and the West' but I am not sure
― 龜, Friday, 13 June 2014 00:58 (ten years ago) link
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=UXP5AQAAQBAJ&pg=PA901&lpg=PA901&dq=dictionary+of+untranslatables+res&source=bl&ots=yLY-MUuJqP&sig=Y0w_61AqJxz7JKeZwROV9fa_szg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iEyaU-CXEe2V7AaXnYCoDg&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=res&f=false
― Merdeyeux, Friday, 13 June 2014 01:00 (ten years ago) link
dear nakhchivan,
i have listened extensively to a compilation of autechre's first three albums and found its res to be incompatible with my joy
are chiastic slide and lp5 closer in craft to the wonders that followed, and is it in your estimation that i'd relish them?
― Who whom kissed? (imago), Friday, 13 June 2014 01:04 (ten years ago) link
also, dayo that is more elegant than even 'res', but I wonder if there could be an even more abstract rendering of thingness (as opposed to the liminal haecceity (nakhers taught me that word) implicit in the linguistic allusion even to a 'thing')
― Who whom kissed? (imago), Friday, 13 June 2014 01:06 (ten years ago) link
have you seen any stupid looking dogs recently?
― sarahell, Friday, 13 June 2014 01:07 (ten years ago) link
just thinking baout 东西
― popchips: the next snapple? (seandalai), Friday, 13 June 2014 01:19 (ten years ago) link
― ∞, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 21:26 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
chexy's new username strikes me as a decently abstract abjection of thingness that does for an asshole 'things'
― Who whom kissed? (imago), Friday, 13 June 2014 01:20 (ten years ago) link
try to view autechre less telelogically, they all have good things on their own termslp5 is certainly worth having a look at, its sort of glossy and tuneful but with a perverse logic mitigating against that
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Friday, 13 June 2014 01:23 (ten years ago) link
have u heard new Vatican shadow?
― Mordy, Friday, 13 June 2014 01:25 (ten years ago) link
It's ok if you find autechre dull lj
― sarahell, Friday, 13 June 2014 01:44 (ten years ago) link
Yeah
― TMI@JFC.U_U (wins), Friday, 13 June 2014 06:09 (ten years ago) link
Use that as a starting point, it could be your "way in" to their albums
― TMI@JFC.U_U (wins), Friday, 13 June 2014 06:10 (ten years ago) link
who's chexy BTW
hi chexy
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Friday, 13 June 2014 09:44 (ten years ago) link