OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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i don't think that family is comparable to a biker gang or a convicted murderer?

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 17:32 (ten years ago) link

truman capote didn't just write about murderers. mentioned the hell's angels merely to point out that if you write stuff like the NYT piece you are gonna get heat. not beat up, probably, but heat nonetheless.

scott seward, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link

A guy told me one time, "Don't let yourself get attached to any blues memorabilia you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 19:31 (ten years ago) link

scott, it felt like a fair assumption you were doing an in cold blood / hst comparison there

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link

answered prayers is where capote drew the charges of betrayal and was ostracized by his friends

balls, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 22:28 (ten years ago) link

Throughout their hour-plus set, the three sisters shook their luxurious manes and showed emotion by running fingers through their perfectly conditioned hair. If the music thing does not work out, they can count on a lucrative contract endorsing Neutrogena or Herbal Essences.

Remember when they said this about the Screaming Trees?

how's life, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link

and they can play!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link

what a fucking douche. Just when I start to think rockism is an irrelevant concept now.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:46 (ten years ago) link

look at those bitches with their hair

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:49 (ten years ago) link

Because, at the moment, not only do their lyrics and stage presence not only lack sophistication, but none of their songs contain the timeless stupidity of a catchy hook like "MMMbop" had, though their "Wire" comes the closest.

diagram THAT monstrosity

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link

lol at hurting going HAIM in the comments

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link

yeah didn't mean to triple post that, hope that's fixed now

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link

girls aren't sophisticated see

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link

If you scroll back far enough in his reviews you find out he like Cat Power though so

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link

fortunately every Bryan Ferry review I've ever written mentions his hair

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link

A poll on that telegraph article up thread
Worst Thing In This Daily Telegraph "10 ways Britpop changed modern manhood" Article

۩, Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link

Possibly the most notes I ever got on a Tumblr post was that time I went to an Interpol gig and reviewed their haircuts!

(granted, it may have been semi-parodic)

Bramble Bluebell (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link

Pretty sure most reviews of Hanson mentioned their hair too.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link

and Nelson, remember them? "The Timotei Twins"

۩, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:00 (ten years ago) link

And the Beatles.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link

Yeah but that was because they looked like girls with girl hair and as such were unworthy of anything more complex in terms of criticism than "lol ur hair"

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link

to be fair who didn't lol at Nelson's hair?

۩, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link

not damaged/depressed = "not sophisticated" is an annoying trope in its own right, and one that probably overlaps with the gender stuff at issue here but is not exclusive to it

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:22 (ten years ago) link

vmg's overall music-bloggage quality was pretty awful with a few exceptions (hi reed, thanks for being awesome) but miami's was always the most consistently embarrassing. good to see they're keeping it up

maura, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link

I've thought about pitching stories but

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:20 (ten years ago) link

holy shit that quietus britpop article upthread

britpop's idea of a controversial loudmouth was louise wener? DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE FORGETTING SOME PEOPLE

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link

every member of HAIM has incredible hair. but i can't agree with that writer's assertion that their songs are unsophisticated.

ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link

Yeah that's some lousy writing. They have hair, their songs are dumb like Hanson, and they have long hair like Hanson. That's pretty much all of the review, and yet it takes 2 pages to read.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ0v6pBkmdc

katherine, Friday, 2 May 2014 04:49 (ten years ago) link

Yeah that's some lousy writing. They have hair, their songs are dumb like Hanson, and they have long hair like Hanson. That's pretty much all of the review, and yet it takes 2 pages to read.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, May 2, 2014 12:39 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't forget the bit where everyone liked the songs (except for him) and how Haim should just shut up and not talk and just play with their hair instead.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 2 May 2014 09:57 (ten years ago) link

One of the band's biggest strategic mistakes was that while Danielle Haim does most of the vocals, her older sister Este was charged with the onstage patter, which seemed to be influenced by the Shoshanna character from the HBO series Girls.

A strategic mistake? Were they overrun by an army of Cimbri half-way through the set?

(also, I doubt a 27 year old based her personality on a character from a show that premiered 2 years ago.)

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link

yeah but Haim are girls and the show is named GIRLS so you know i mean there's a pretty good link there

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link

I hear they mapped out their strategy in kindergarten: Este would grow up to be more talkative and Danielle more reserved.

Excited to see some genuinely execrable writing again itt. Now with added life coaching.

With the sisters ranging from being young to being kind of young (Este's the oldest at 27 and Alana's the youngest at 22), there is time for them to fall in and out of love, hitchhike around the Southwest, or have other meaningful and meaningless experiences that might help their lyrics and personas catch up to their musical skills.

hitchhike around the Southwest,

is he basically telling them to go get murdered?

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:38 (ten years ago) link

the southwest seems like a terrible region to hitchhike, so many long desert roads and stuff, wouldn't it make more sense to hitchhike in like the southeast where it's still warm but more dense?

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link

also i'm p sure the haim album did well enough that they could buy like an old honda accord or something

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link

hitchhike around the southwest, collecting topaz necklaces, bald eagle statuettes, and actual living lizards

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link

Spend your allowance on a bow and arrow set where the arrows have rubber plunger tips. Get some water at wall drug. Release a hit record.

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:05 (ten years ago) link

Form a Brit pop band with some Nevadans, like an inverse dire straits. See the Hoover dam. Check out those arches. Play to arenas full of adoring fans.

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:09 (ten years ago) link

WOW @ "there is time for them to fall in and out of love." that's rly gross.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 May 2014 19:12 (ten years ago) link

Can't wait until Haim writes a song or two about falling in or out of love

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link

a prescription for success!

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:21 (ten years ago) link

re: the NYTimes Magazine piece on Geeshie Wiley and Elvie Thomas, McCormick's daughter posted the following to the fb "The Real Blues Form" page:

A few points:

1) My father isn't “withholding” or “hoarding” his archive. He is actively working on getting his research out there. I am aware that there is widespread dissatisfaction with the speed at which he works. Bipolar disorder is a terrible thing to have to live with. He does the best he can.

2) No one has any intention of burning the archive, setting it out by the curb for garbage collection, or otherwise allowing it be lost. My father has referred to it as his “monster” but it’s also his baby. It represents years of his labors, his hopes, and his dreams. He desperately wants it be preserved, as do I.

3) That said, he is not going to just give it away to anyone. He has very strong feelings about how he wants it to be handled and preserved. As he has every right to, because it is his life’s work. He devoted years of effort to collecting this data and he is entitled to do whatever he wants with it. It is not in the public domain. It does not belong to “history.” It belongs to him. Whether you approve of his approach or the speed at which he works is irrelevant, because it’s his decision and no one else’s—not even mine. Your enthusiasm to get your hands on it does not magically give you a legal right to take possession of someone else’s property.

4) He is not in this for the money. I am not in this for the money. That does not mean that money is not a factor, but it’s certainly not the most important one. When all is said and done, I am fairly certain that any money that might potentially be earned by my father’s work will be far outweighed by the investment that has gone into it over the years.

5) There has been some talk of burglarizing his home to “rescue” his work. Please know that we take any and all such threats, even if intended as a joke, very seriously. Any such comments will be forwarded to our attorney and to local law enforcement in case anyone else should decide to follow in Sullivan’s and Love’s footsteps and steal from my father.

6) There is absolutely no purpose in circulating some kind of petition to try and convince either me or my father to do whatever it is you think you want us to do. We don't need your harassment to understand the importance of either his research materials or his work based on them. We already get a daily stream of phone calls and emails from people who want to “help,” most of whom simply want to help themselves to my father's work. The last person whose assistance he accepted was Caitlin Love, and instead of doing the work my father needed her to do, she rifled through his files and stole what she wanted for her own—and John Sullivan’s—professional and financial gain.

7) Indexing and preserving an archive containing decades of original research and notes is complicated. Writing a book (or in this case books) is complicated. Negotiating with universities, foundations, publishers, and agents is complicated. Living with bipolar disorder is complicated. Coping with age-related illnesses is complicated. There are no easy answers or simple solutions to my father’s problems. We are doing the best we can.

My father still believes he can finish at least some of his work. That belief is what gets him out of bed every day. How dare you suggest that anyone has the right to take that away from him.

If you really, really want to help, leave my father alone and let him work. Instead, call upon John Jeremiah Sullivan and Caitlin Love to return everything they removed from his home, and to refrain from using any more of my father’s work for their own profit.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:36 (ten years ago) link

damn

marcos, Friday, 2 May 2014 19:39 (ten years ago) link

neither side comes off remotely spotless here (piece is still great, I thought), but that "I wanted him to be a complicated but heroic figure" bit is one of journalism's worst magazine-writing chris evans impulses

katherine, Saturday, 3 May 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link


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