didn't care at all about this band when they were new but yesterday a dude who was into them back then told me to really give the new one a chance and wow. Like this record a lot, and I generally don't listen to, you know, indie rock
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned),
I feel like I lost a member of the family.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 17:34 (ten years ago) link
we accept you we accept you one of us
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
listening to under the pressure really does have a lot of that pagan place big music vibe
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link
I don't know what to tell you Alfred this is good music. it's not as good as Ava Inferi but most people don't really give a shit about Ava Inferi, what can you do
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 2 May 2014 03:10 (ten years ago) link
Don't worry Steven, Alfred has been pretty intent on being a total drag in this thread from the get go
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 May 2014 11:51 (ten years ago) link
Am I wrong to wish they'd drop the synths and go full roots rock? Don't answer that, I know what you will all say. But I want more Taking The Farm and Arms Like Boulders, and less emoting over soundscapes for 10 minutes at a time.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 2 May 2014 11:56 (ten years ago) link
Am I wrong to wish they'd drop the synths and go full roots rock?
No, you're right. I want them to go full Dire Straits.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 May 2014 11:59 (ten years ago) link
Have you seen them live? I have not, but I wonder if they get closer to rock on stage.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:03 (ten years ago) link
Going straight roots rock would rob them of the thing that makes them interesting and unique, it's all about the combination of earthiness and floatiness.
― Matt DC, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:10 (ten years ago) link
otm
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 2 May 2014 12:13 (ten years ago) link
Don't feel like they're that good at either of them but only get by on being sorta interesting
― Hunt3r, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:26 (ten years ago) link
synth vs. no synth is a red herring, i think some of you want them to write tighter songs which three albums in they're pretty clearly not going to do
― call all destroyer, Friday, 2 May 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link
more like war on interesting music
― ienjoyhotdogs, Friday, 2 May 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link
Listened to this based on seeing it in SNA constantly and it is not bad but it really lacks any tunes or hooks, just feels like lots of atmospherics and mood without any great dynamics. I really like the textures and I think that trying to hang them on "big songs" would be missing the point but as it sounds just now it feels a bit anaemic. But it is the kind of album that's interesting enough to make me want to persevere and listen a few times again to see if it opens up, and I think it's going to sound better in the summer for some reason.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 2 May 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link
Can't imagine listening to this band anywhere else than in a car on a highway
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 3 May 2014 06:47 (ten years ago) link
i just sit in my chair but i do pretend i'm in a car
i roll the windows down too
― j., Saturday, 3 May 2014 14:32 (ten years ago) link
This record sounds more like Calling Elvis than Tunnel Of Love.
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 3 May 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link
Fun thread to read. upper mississippi sh@kedown otm throughout. I kind of feel like it diminishes this band's music to only listen for the influences. I get why people do it, though, because we haven't really heard this particular mixture of influences before, so it's interesting to try to pinpoint exactly what they are channeling. For me their music appeals more as part of a long continuum of trance-inducing repetitive music (along the lines of Cave, Loop, Wooden Shjips, Spacemen 3, etc.) just one that happens to occasionally evoke a certain strain of east coast bar rock of the 80s. I really like this album, I think it's more consistent than earlier stuff, and the hooks are stronger, but so far nothing on it tops my favorite songs on Slave Ambient ("It's Your Destiny", "Original Slave", "Come to the City").
― beard papa, Saturday, 17 May 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link
my album mix this morning transitioned from tony williams on miles' 'miles smiles' to the cymbals opening 'lost in the dream', didn't miss a beat
― j., Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:22 (ten years ago) link
After several weeks of going crazy trying to figure out which song the melody & progression of "Eyes to the Wind" remind me of, I finally realized it's Belle & Sebastian, "My Wandering Days Are Over" (for some reason I had been thinking Pavement, I think because the production reminded me a little of CR,CR)
― Todd Palin Campaign HQ Blues (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:28 (ten years ago) link
I read the recent interview w him about mental health issues he was dealing w before during and after making the record and it prompted me to listen to it again. Y'know how you go through these phases where maybe you listen to something fairly obsessively and then have to take a break from it b/c for whatever reasons even thinking about it makes you sick.
Anyway, I feel like he really did contact the Advocate that is present and available to all of our psyches -- the aspect of ourselves that argues for a more realistic and vaster picture of who we actually are. In our culture we don't have a vocabulary for, or instilled readymade spots for shamanic leanings to occupy -- we don't have a healing vocabulary. We do best at being cynical and inventing increasingly withering putdowns to express the disgust and unease that we feel at being incarnated in these forms. Anyway, maybe this is all insane projection on my part, but I think that the WoD guy contacted some of that vibe and managed to put it on his record. I don't grasp that feeling from many other records. The sense of wrestling w one's demons and catching them in that moment when you are looking into their eyes and seeing them as the helping spirits that they are. The actual grit in the oyster and all that junk. It's an ecology; we need poison as much as we need medicine.
― dell (del), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
i think that's a very interesting juxtaposition, del, between 'more realistic' and 'vaster'
i would normally be inclined to hear the blissed-out sound, and the motorik version of american road music, with less realism, somehow - because of associations with escapism, flight, abandonment
but there does seem to be something realistic about the sound (not just the lyrics), something about life/the world that's being intended by it
― j., Sunday, 12 October 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
"blissed-out sound, and the motorik version of american road music" - thanks for nailing their sound so succinctly. i'd been struggling to describe them to people so far
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 13 October 2014 09:26 (nine years ago) link
oh i stole it from a review, no doubt, they all say that
― j., Monday, 13 October 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link
the motorik version of american road music
I get what this means, but still, that is literally this:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/A74-D-front-250.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 October 2014 13:21 (nine years ago) link
lol i don't hear ANY tom petty in THAT
― j., Monday, 13 October 2014 13:29 (nine years ago) link
i saw them last night in the huxley's in berlin. in the beginning i stood in the middle of the hall and it was so loud that i couldn't hear the music. then i went back to the end of the place and it was better. but their main problem to me seems that they only have two or three good songs. all the slow ballad stuff is rubbish and even most of the more uptempo songs seem soulless and tuneless. the live version of "under the pressure" was awesome though. slowly buildig up from the mist of guitar feedback, the kicking in and peaking when the saxophone joins in, then an improvisational burst out of free-jazzy cacophony and then back to the forward moving theme and finally a slow fade-out of vague guitar noises again. what really turned me off later on though was the drumming. the lead singer/guitarist started the drum machine with his foot and then the drummer just did playback. the drummer as actor, how crap has contemporary rock music become? in the end i left during the encore of a ballad. i don't remember the last time i left a concert before the end. the other decent song they played was of course "baby missiles".
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 06:57 (nine years ago) link
If you think they have 3 good songs why did you go to the show?
― nostormo, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 07:14 (nine years ago) link
I saw them at Austin Psych Fest this year and to me they seemed like a COINTELPRO sham band the Feds would use for infiltrating a scene with unintentional hilarious results.
Not buying whatever bill of goods they're selling.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 07:29 (nine years ago) link
If you think they have 3 good songs why did you go to the show?that was a revelation that came over me after the concert...
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 08:19 (nine years ago) link
Love these guys - but i'm not sure I would like to see them live. Seems to me their songs are there to get you lost in something (the road, the landscape, etc), but maybe wouldnt work as well if focused on intently and exclusively
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 09:10 (nine years ago) link
They are fantastic live, you should go and see them if you get the chance, they start with the big rock songs and get gradually dronier as things progress.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 11:16 (nine years ago) link
i've come to terms with the fact this band is fundamentally crappy in some way but they hit some weird childhood ideal of FM 80s classic rock i can't help but be drawn to.
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
if you can't figure out what makes them fundamentally crappy then maybe they're not
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
i guess crappy's the wrong word....vacant? empty?put it this way, i don't ever want to see them live because i feel like it would ruin something about them for be, expose them for what they are. but the records create some illusion of a remembered sound, sort of acidhead bruce hornsby does crazy horse type vibe
but like i said i do find myself listening to them
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:56 (nine years ago) link
these guys are like balearic petty, i like em
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link
needs a sequencer
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link
yeah agree i think moving even farther towards boys of summer/arc of a dancer type vibes wouldn't be a bad idea
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link
Arc of a diver you mean right?
― calstars, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 01:59 (nine years ago) link
effortlessly
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link
Yep diver the winwood album
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 02:32 (nine years ago) link
just got Lost in a Dream - baffled by all the Spacemen 3 refs in the wiki entry, I detect no discernible influence. If anything this sounds like Don Henley's 80s solo work, comment about 80s FM rock upthread very otm
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link
i hear 80s dylan and mark knopfler
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
i know they aren't the most beloved band around here (or maybe the hater are just more vocals) but gosh, Lost in the Dream is such a fun summer record.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 15 August 2016 02:45 (eight years ago) link
Still love "Taking the Farm"
― calstars, Saturday, 20 August 2016 16:03 (eight years ago) link
this new one seems kind of...cheesy? "there's a darkness over there, but we ain't going"
― calstars, Friday, 21 April 2017 21:52 (seven years ago) link
I like it. It's not a great departure from the sound of LITD, which is fine by me. I still wish the drummer would learn to play fills. I mean, just give me one, dude.
Assuming the song will be on the album in addition to being released for RSD?
― Wimmels, Friday, 21 April 2017 23:26 (seven years ago) link
sounds great to me
saw them live a year ago and (perhaps I've mentioned this upthread) to my stoned surprise it totally rocked, channelling Bruce Springsteen a lot
― niels, Saturday, 22 April 2017 09:49 (seven years ago) link
I haven't listened to this one yet, but I saw that it's 11 minutes long. How much of that is outro? 7-8 minutes? This fuckin' guy and his outros.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 24 April 2017 03:53 (seven years ago) link
new song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBWiMAu3uII
― ciderpress, Friday, 2 June 2017 02:51 (seven years ago) link