Dr Dre: Classic or Dud ?

he's Mr. Que too?

or Enri-QUE?

lol aero.

i'm not gonna out him.

sorry bro, your investigation has not produced the clues you think it has, but stay on the case, the mayor really wants results on this one

i don't even know if i'm 100% right, but i'm not gonna do it.

j., i have barely interacted with you under this name. i have no idea what your deal is. but anyway

and my youtube was on topic this time

aw :( xxpost

well I guess a Dr. Dre thread of all places is acceptable to 'express yourself'

i'm glad i didn't say anything because, after a little more digging, my initial hunch has a much, much higher probability of being wrong and might even just be flat out wrong. too bad! alright, i'm peaceing from this thread now.

http://www.gigwise.com/news/57749/Dr-Dre-To-Release-Instrumental-Hip-Hop-Album-About-The-Solar-System
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uh, notwithstanding this beef that I have no idea about, it would seem that this is the place to talk about very significant news, right?

seeing as I don't read the tech press like maybe I should…

1. would this be the most significant purchase Apple has made in order to consolidate its future? most significant in a long time? Like Jobs was always "we make our own shit that everybody wants, we don't appropriate some other company's innovations"…but they haven't put out anything in a while that knocked any socks off… now that paid DLs are declining, they are spooked by Spotify, obv…

2. always thought it striking that their headphones sucked so bad. not shocking, as they make their shit for the quotidians, who don't have an awareness of good audio quality, or don't care…point of reference: I recently bought my first ever downloads ever from the Apple Store, and now I know that Neil Young is not being some old contrary coot: that shit is indeed inferior.

Neil Young is not being some old contrary coot: that shit is indeed inferior

not mutually exclusive tbf

Definitely will make Dre the richest dude in hip-hop.

I like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thtPhtMcdlY

did we really wait this long for such an underwhelming album? i shudder to think how bad detox must have been but then remember i need a doctor and never mind i get it now.

"i need a doctor" may be some of the worst art ever created

this isnt a real dre album though is it? its just a soundtrack. besides, i liked some of those guide tracks that leaked a few years back. shit popped off was good.

wow, i've never seen anyone else even mention "shit popped off" before. i've always been into that one (it got an official release on a TI mixtape at some point). one of the versions of "topless" is really nice, too, great beat.

definitely all feels a cut beneath his previous album material, though, and i think he was wise to admit – especially after "kush" and "doctor" – that he'd lost perspective. still, i'd like to imagine there are a few worthwhile gems buried somewhere in the sessions, perhaps even a full album's worth of stuff if you combed through all the different eras and iterations it went through over a decade+ (especially since his goal had been to make something groundbreaking like the last two times, not simply to make something great – there could be all kinds of stuff that got cut for reasons that would hardly matter now). if he called burt bacharach in for a session and the only reason we know that is bacharach mentioned it when promoting an album of his, who knows what kind of weirdness is lurking on old externals and thumb drives.

can't even imagine how this is going to be good given how sterilized and machinelike all his recent production work has been, but bout to fire it up and give it a shot

it's....okay i guess?

thing is that he doesn't have a real new "discovery" MC like snoop or eminem was to hang his hat on here

he has kendrick on some tracks but it's not the same thing he's so established and not really tied to dre

he has some other no name dudes that are ehh

thats p much exactly how i feel, its more like a big-budget mixtape beat tape on which dre occasionally raps and mostly a bunch of other dudes do. production was more interesting than i thought

also, really couldve done without the gratuitous wife-killing skit thing, which (surprisingly) eminem is not responsible for

*mixtape/beat tape

yeah that's a good way of putting it, the mixtape...yeah it just seems like a bunch of...stuff...put together to be an album

i like the one with xzibit and cold187

After first listen, I agree with the above that it's just ok. Seems to lean a bit too heavily on Anderson Paak, but the Kendrick verses and the Kendrick-penned Dre verses are solid.

i mean dre has always kind of obviously taken on the flow of his ghostwriters like "forgot about dre" was so obviously Em or "still d.r.e." was so obviously jay-z but with kendrick's style it feels a little weird and unnatural and i'm not sure why

how are you supposed to say Anderson .Paak

i think he pulled off eminems flow, but it never quite sounded as good as when the doc or snoop wrote for him. their flows sounded smoother, better suited to his voice/'vocal weight'. obv thats also down to the era, but you do wonder why eminem or kendrick cant write in a diff flow for dre. or maybe dre wants to use their flows too, to seem more current.

oh god, i need a doctor was so awful

Critical reception
Nick Levine of Digital Spy gave the song a very positive review - rating the song five stars out of five; "Why is 'I Need a Doctor' such a brilliant single? Well, first of all there's the production from British knob-twiddling whizz Alex da Kid, which has a similar gravitas and bone-rattling bombast to his work on 'Love the Way You Lie' and 'Airplanes'. Then there's the haunting chorus, delivered by Diddy's 'Coming Home' bud Skylar Grey, which inhabits you from first listen. However, what elevates 'I Need A Doctor' from "very good" to "a little bit special" are the performances of Dre and Em. [...] That single manly tear dribbling down your cheek? Entirely, entirely justified."[14]

@StillAdvance true, though eminem and dre have such great chemistry together. they could even pull off a concept as thin as "old time's sake."

that quote reminds me how stupid it was that a dr. dre song be produced by someone else, and dre's own appearance be limited to a trainwreck third verse. given its message and emotional tenor, the song would have made way more (nevertheless awful) sense being billed as an eminem single.

Production is much much busier than anything Dre's done before, it works in today's environment, but is it as good as his past albums? idk, probably not.

Agree that the ratio of Dre verses to guest verses is way too low.

I also don't know how to pronounce Anderson .Paak, but I do know that I like him

some nice moments but imo it's a really cluttered, dated-sounding album. i suspect not calling it Detox and claiming the movie provided a flurry of creativity is partly to mask how old some of the music is. makes me really glad that Dre has been pretty hands-off with Kendrick's albums.

dated-sounding

yeah : /

Am I wrong for hearing t.i. behind some of these drake verses?

you mean Dre and not Drake right? it's possible, T.I. was one of the ghostwriters for Detox that reference tracks leaked for years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhwIOBLQPqc

Dre, right.

haha pretty good freudian slip

People keep saying Kendrick wrote Dre's Genocide verse but I'm hearing TI. And It's All On Me cements it. I may be wrong but idk.

Just about every time Dre says "homie" I think of Tip.

after hearing genocide, i think im going to go back and check those old leaked demos for detox, which were pretty decent IIRC

Is the mix on this weird? I'm listening on Apple Music and some of the songs are so flattened out they sound like turn-of-the-century Roots tracks, while others are so sharp and tinny I can barely tolerate them. "Deep Water" is making me want to rip the headphones from my ears right now.

i played it on my laptop first, hella snare

then on my usual setup it did not at all have the greater presence i was expecting

They should have a station at the Apple shop where you can listen to it on Beats headphones to hear how it's really supposed to sound

otm bad mix. kinda depressed about that. was pumped to hear this loud.

Yeah I swear I heard some actual clipping which is just weird & not pro

bnm

bmf

nbd

smh