skip spence's "oar" -- visionary underground classic or over-romanticized obscurist sham?

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"match up well"

clemenza, Monday, 2 June 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

Sundazed Announces Box Set:

Today we celebrate what would have been Skip Spence’s 72nd birthday! And what better day to announce that the once-thought-impossible is soon to be a reality?!?!?

This summer, Sundazed / Modern Harmonic will proudly deliver to the world a 100% mindblowing, definitive, multi-disc edition of Alexander Spence’s beyond-iconic album, Oar. The upcoming set will feature nearly TWO HOURS of previously unheard recordings from Skip’s legendary 1968 Nashville sessions, including songs that were never before known to exist, radical alternate versions, revealing demos, snippets and more. Originally released in 1969 by Columbia Records, then expanded in content (and in audience) in 1999 by Sundazed Music, this upcoming, definitive, multi-disc edition of Oar, entitled AndOarAgain from Sundazed / Modern Harmonic is a find of true historic significance.

The background: Alexander Spence – a singer, songwriter, guitarist and multi-instrumentalist known as “Skip,” recently relieved of his duties in the San Francisco rock band Moby Grape after a descent into excessive hallucinatory-drug use, arrives in Nashville on a motorcycle that he purchased with part of a small recording advance from Columbia Records, the Grape's label. Spence had powered down to Nashville on his new bike after being released from New York's Bellevue Hospital, where he had just spent six months in the psychiatric unit.

Skip then spends six days in studio sessions (spread over two weeks) in December, 1968, recording Oar in the Columbia Recording Studios, at 504 16th Avenue South in Nashville, Tennessee. At the sessions’ end, the Oar reels are painstakingly edited, refined and organized into an album by legendary producer David Rubinson. This will be Skip’s first album as a solo artist.
It will also be his last.

Issued commercially on May 19th, 1969, Oar will be Spence's only complete expression of his experimental verve and musical facility, under his real name and creative control, before he recedes into rapidly deepening, and - ultimately conquering - darkness.

David Fricke: “A half-century after its brisk, strange birth, Oarremains one of the most harrowing and compelling artifacts of rock & roll's most euphoric era: an apparent chaos of eccentric composition and overwhelming melancholy, wreathed in country-blues shadows and the smokey blur of Spence's wounded-baritone singing.

This definitive edition of Oar – over 3 CDs (or 3 LPs) with nearly three dozen previously unknown performances, including additional songs and fully conceived alternate takes – prove Spence's diligence, inspired momentum, and clarity beyond any doubt. He played all of the instruments, including bass and drums, and produced the album, testing ideas and building arrangements with an odd but assured vision: a confession of mental and emotional trauma stripped to primal-blues, ragged-country, and solitary-folk fundamentals, sung as if from inside a trance but precise in the tormented details.

The additional recordings here – nearly two hours of music on the way to Oar along with roads not taken – at once clarify and muddy the enigma: how did Spence determine the final, preferred state of the album's twelve songs? An extended outtake of "Diana," running close to six minutes, is just voice and spindly acoustic guitar, interspersed with outbursts of robust strum. Stripped to just vocal and acoustic guitar in a newly-revealed version here, “Broken Heart” now sounds as bleak, grave, and true as Johnny Cash's towering noir, in his sunset years, with producer Rick Rubin. Then there are the scraps of song, more than a dozen in this set: sparks and notions on bass and drums, sometimes guitar, with a flick of melody or possible chorus. Some never get much past a minute like "I Got a Lot to Say," a potential R&B dance party with Spence testing that vocal line against different tempos. Some go farther, with genuine promise. You can't miss the hint of classic, soaring Moby Grape in "I Want a Rock + Roll Band." In a momentary reprieve between prisons, physical and mental, Spence recorded as much music as he had in his head and heart and as much as the studio clock and Columbia's budget permitted.”

Sundazed Music/Modern Harmonic, in conjunction with Sony Music/Legacy Recordings, is elated to announce the Ultimate Expanded Edition of Skip Spence’s Oar, an edition across 3 CDs (including the original album), or 3 LPs, joined with deluxe packaging and unseen photos. The set will also contain new notes from David Fricke (senior writer at Rolling Stone, MOJO contributor, and host of The Writer’s Block on Sirius XM radio). David has been writing about Skip Spence and Moby Grape for three decades.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link

Will check that for sure---yesterday I spotted my ancient dub of the Sundazed: 22 tracks and a note to self re checking his Jefferson Airplane Takes Off and Early Flight tracks---maybe some more recent JA collections have more Spence---anybody familiar with this early stuff? Did he record anything before Airplane?

dow, Thursday, 19 April 2018 00:32 (six years ago) link

Sounds like the 3lp is only the extras.

I approve of that idea..

Mark G, Thursday, 19 April 2018 13:20 (six years ago) link

three months pass...
one month passes...

"an olympic super swimmer whose belly doesn't flop,
a super race car driver whose pit it can't be stopped,
a honey-dripping hipster whose be cannot be bop'd,
better to be rolling oats than from the roll be dropped"

A+

budo jeru, Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link

f o u r
d a z e

https://media.sundazed.com/media/images/MHCD-086-PS.1.png

budo jeru, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 01:08 (five years ago) link

Hopefully sooner! I preordered and allegedly it should be in on Wednesday.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 01:10 (five years ago) link

And in hand. It's very lovely.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 00:49 (five years ago) link

Love the title

Harper Valley CTA-102 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 01:04 (five years ago) link

this original columbia advertisement is included in the booklet (!!!)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/18/9f/61189fecb72650b5f6468c0842a2a29e.jpg

budo jeru, Monday, 1 October 2018 00:19 (five years ago) link

at this point i haven't made it through the original tracks yet but am v excited.

and yeah it's an awesome title, very head, very sundazed xp

budo jeru, Monday, 1 October 2018 00:20 (five years ago) link

never liked this album, and this paragraph from his wiki entry always made me think he sounded p skeevy. Having spent plenty of time in Santa Cruz and being familiar with its panoply of hippie burnout creeps this is just... not someone that sounds v interesting, to me.

"Skippy was just hanging around. He hadn't been all there for years, because he'd been into heroin all that time. In fact he actually ODed once and they had him in the morgue in San Jose with a tag on his toe. All of a sudden he got up and asked for a glass of water. Now he was snortin' big clumps of coke, and nothing would happen to him. We couldn't have him around because he'd be pacing the room, describing axe murders. So we got him a little place of his own. He had a little white rat named Oswald that would snort coke too. He'd never washed his dishes, and he'd try to get these little grammar school girls to go into the house with him. He was real bad. One of the parents finally called the cops, and they took him to the County Mental Health Hospital in Santa Cruz. Where they immediately lost him, and he turned up days later in the women's ward."[

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 October 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

i mean, it's entirely possible he was a creep, exacerbated no doubt by years of drug abuse and untreated mental illness.

that said, i'm not really interested in the legend of skip spence, nor do i think it's cool or mysterious or whatever that he freaked out and never made another record (or any other music, really) -- and, perhaps most importantly, i don't think any of these sordid biographical details have any bearing on my enjoyment of this strange record. that shit depresses me and i'm just grateful he had this brief moment of lucidity and put something beautiful and honest into the world.

you might even say that that quote says a lot more about peter lewis than it does about skip, trying to turn the tragedy of spence's instability into this like "har har you dirty dog!" story

budo jeru, Monday, 1 October 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link

anyway, the first ten seconds of "my friend" sounds like it could be the fall

budo jeru, Monday, 1 October 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link

I too have never been able to understand what people see in this record. Just seems like average singer songwriter weirdo stuff, the kind you find done a lot better on literally hundreds of private press "loner folk" LPs

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 1 October 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link

Yup

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 October 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link

What in the world is average about any of these songs? You might not like them but they are very unique.

timellison, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 03:09 (five years ago) link

average singer songwriter weirdo stuff, the kind you find done a lot better on literally hundreds of private press "loner folk" LPs

More buzzwords. Who are we talking about that you're asserting is similar to Skip Spence?

timellison, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 03:15 (five years ago) link

ts: skip spence vs. dave bixby

dub pilates (rushomancy), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 03:26 (five years ago) link

you might even say that that quote says a lot more about peter lewis than it does about skip, trying to turn the tragedy of spence's instability into this like "har har you dirty dog!" story

― budo jeru

one might, but then one would be in essence saying "maybe skip spence isn't the bad person, peter lewis is the bad person!", which would be slightly reductionist.

if people like listening to the record, like the songs, that's wonderful, but often mentally ill people get miscategorized as being "too pure for this world" or some such bullshit. we're not.

dub pilates (rushomancy), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 04:06 (five years ago) link

above average singer songwriter weirdo stuff, the kind you find done a lot better not quite as well on literally hundreds of private press "loner folk" LPs

the late great, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 05:20 (five years ago) link

="If you like this, you may also like..."

Mark G, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 06:10 (five years ago) link

Forgot about this thread! This is one album I think is somewhat similar to Oar.

timellison, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

i went to listen to this album one day about 6 years ago. my ex-wife owned it and we lived together at the time. the vinyl was smashed inside the intact sleeve. i've still never heard it

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 23:14 (five years ago) link

Re:budo jeru, i definitely side with how he's or she's looking at things. The art is whats important, sordid details of an artists personal life are (or should be) peripheral or secondary. And yes you could say i'm generalizing, as there are some artists who make their private/personal life the fodder of the work. But there are exceptions to EVERY rule. Doesn't change the rule.

VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Thursday, 4 October 2018 02:39 (five years ago) link

And i just saw, you dropped the name of The Mighty Fall!! Now i def need to hear that. Actually the Oar re-ish is quite affordable on Amazon. Next payday, it's mine. Speaking of Fall i got a MES trading card off eBay today. It's pretty funny looking and fairly accurate. Lol! It'll make a swell bookmarker. Y'know I miss that geezer.

VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Thursday, 4 October 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

rush, i think it’s entirely possible that skip was a shitty person AND peter lewis was shitty for characterizing skip’s behavior in the way that he did. more generally, calling out somebody for having a shitty take re: sexual assault e.g. is in no way diminishing said assault — like, we have conversations about the discussions / attitudes surrounding these things. surely this isn’t controversial.

also not sure if that “too pure” thing was directed at me, but i explicitly wrote that i’m not interested in the “legend” of skip spence, by which i meant essentially the same thing that you did. you’re right, it’s bullshit.

also the late great otm

budo jeru, Thursday, 4 October 2018 03:41 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

I finally got the "book/3CD" version thanks to someone who bought it, didn't like it and sold it on ebay. Cheaper.

Anyhow, I am enjoying it! For someone who at that point had been apart from music, it's loose but accomplished in places too.

Mark G, Friday, 25 January 2019 12:15 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

So finally listening to this (17 years after I said I would lol) and I can't believe there was a tribute album! Bloody funny to have Tom Waits and Flying Saucer Attack on the same record.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:44 (four years ago) link


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