I think classic rock as we know it ended the day Nevermind came out. On a completely unrelated note, I'm glad nobody is nominating acts like Big Star, Gram Parsons or Gene Clark, who, great as they are, were never on the radio, and hence cannot be classic rock.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 03:24 (nine years ago) link
yeah in earlier planning stages i thought of 90/91 as the cutoff point instead of 86/87. so many classic rock stations outright playing Nevermind and Achtung Baby singles now, though. Kenny Wayne Shepherd's "Blue On Black" now shows up in the top 500 airplay stats for the format, and that's from 1997!
― some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 03:28 (nine years ago) link
my local station has recently taken to playing new singles by old acts in the middle of regular daytime programming, and even if the occasional new Paul McCartney or Joan Jett track is actually not bad, it really feels weird in that context
― some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 03:32 (nine years ago) link
X postKenny Wayne Shepherd is NO Johnny Lang!
Who is everyone's favorite classic rock DJ? Scott Muni 4EVA!!!!!!!!
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 03:34 (nine years ago) link
"Blue on Black" was the #1 Album Rock Track in 1998, the before NuMetal broke.
― Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 03:35 (nine years ago) link
The YEAR before, even
― Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 03:36 (nine years ago) link
I really like a lot of the 60s / 70s stars current music. One of my favorite songs by The Who is Mike Post Theme from their 2006 record.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 03:38 (nine years ago) link
My dad was reminiscing about KZAP (sacramento) today, talked about how they would play 11 minute Traffic album cuts and stuff late in the evening. I distinctly remember them enforcing a Led Zeppelin ban for some reason?!?
― brimstead, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 03:38 (nine years ago) link
o hey yeah, traffic. "dear mr. fantasy"
― sci-fi looking, chubby-leafed, delicately bizarre (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 03:41 (nine years ago) link
I got to say I heard Detroit Rock City and some of the other early Kiss classics way more than Beth on the radio. Maybe it was an Indiana thing, but at night they would sometimes even do the long intro. on Detroit Rock City. I'd say maybe more regional hits, but ones that got played a ton back when I was in high school along the usual staples.
Joe Walsh- The ConfessorAldo Nova- FantasyBilly Thorpe- Children of the SunBlackfoot - Train, TrainThe Fixx - One Thing Leads to Another, Saved by ZeroThe Outlaws- Green Grass and High TidesDio- Rainbow in the Dark, Holy Diver, The Last In LineRainbow- Man on the Silver Mountain Ten Years After- I'd Love to Change the World
― earlnash, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 03:51 (nine years ago) link
God, "man on the silver mountain" kicks so much ass
― brimstead, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 03:53 (nine years ago) link
yeah, it's the best and i thought abt nominating it earlier. but i never heard it on the radio, not even back in the 70s. did hear tons of dio once upon a time, esp "rainbow in the dark".
― sci-fi looking, chubby-leafed, delicately bizarre (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 04:22 (nine years ago) link
Feel like this debate has already been settled, but The Cars debut album is one of those records where every track but one or two has become a classic rock staple. First Boston album is the same way.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 04:38 (nine years ago) link
Also feel like Appetite for Destruction is the bellwether that makes the '86 cutoff so crucial. I take back even mentioning "Free Fallin'"
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 04:40 (nine years ago) link
By the time Slash played a solo in "Sweet Child O Mine" with full blown wah pedal, it already felt like a reappropriation of another era. It's definitely the line between the old guard and the new at the time.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 04:42 (nine years ago) link
There's a strain of Hard Classic Rock mini formats that include GNR and Def Leppard and stuff but that's another dope animal. That whole mid-late 80s hard rock scene scared me as a young kid, all these depraved demons screaming about sex while guitar lava exploded everywhere
― brimstead, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 04:48 (nine years ago) link
one more from the great robert palmer: you're gonna get what's coming
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 05:12 (nine years ago) link
harry nilsson - jump into the fire (even as i nominate it, i'm unclear on whether this is revisionist classic rock history or actual classic rock history. thoughts?)
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 05:15 (nine years ago) link
i get why we might want to force a cutoff point, and '87 seems as good (and as arbitrary) as any. so fine. but including songs that were swept under the "classic rock" umbrella well after that '87 cutoff while still policing the release date itself is sort of bizarre and leads to perversities like arguing that "shake it up" and "i want a new drug" are legit, time-hallowed classic rock jams while "free fallin'" and "sweet child o' mine" aren't. no biggie, but it's strange.
― sci-fi looking, chubby-leafed, delicately bizarre (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 05:25 (nine years ago) link
first time i ever heard "jump into the fire" was in goodfellas. it was pretty obscure at that point, certainly not a classic rock staple. may have snuck into a few playlists since?
― sci-fi looking, chubby-leafed, delicately bizarre (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 05:27 (nine years ago) link
Okay, I came up with a handful to add
Ozark Mountain Daredevils - Jackie BluePaul Simon - Late in the EveningHamilton Joe Frank & Reynolds - Don't Pull Your LovePilot - MagicJohn Stewart - Gold
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 05:28 (nine years ago) link
i have no idea if "gold" qualifies as classic rock or not -- seems more AM/oldies to me-- but damn that is a great song that deserves as much love as it can possibly get. the first time i found myself "driving over kanan" after i moved to LA was a huge moment for me.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 05:32 (nine years ago) link
yeah I wasn't sure about Gold...but since Stevie & Fleetwood Mac are already a lock, it seemed worth a shot :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 05:40 (nine years ago) link
i mean...i pre-nominated "Beth" and someone else nominated "Detroit Rock City" days ago, but it doesn't really mean anything or matter when different things were nominated. it's all in there now, and people can voice their opinions about them with their ballots.
― some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:03 (nine years ago) link
Robert Cray- Smoking GunRobert Cray- Right Next Door
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:19 (nine years ago) link
moreso than "strong persuader", or did someone already nom that?
― Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:37 (nine years ago) link
I think right next door is same song
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:43 (nine years ago) link
By which I mean "Strong Persauder" is actually called "Right Next Door (Because of Me)"
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:48 (nine years ago) link
lol, okay duh. that one!
― Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:59 (nine years ago) link
as you can tell, i don't know anything abt rbt cray, but i do like that song. only track of his i've ever heard on the radio, tho it was NPR.
― Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 11:00 (nine years ago) link
Two different songs.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 11:24 (nine years ago) link
Also: YES on the Cars. Every song from the debut I heard at some point in the eighties and earll nineties on classic rock radio.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 11:25 (nine years ago) link
oh duh sorry: I read "Strong Persuader" as "Smoking Gun" for some reason.
Someone with more time than me, please Spotify all these noms.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 11:28 (nine years ago) link
Cray was interesting to me, as he seemed the only black artist besides Hendrix and Living Colour that I ever heard on my local classic rock station.
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 11:29 (nine years ago) link
o yeah, good point - "cult of personality"
― Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 11:54 (nine years ago) link
I will make a master Spotify playlist of all nominated tracks, will be posted in the voting thread after the noms are done.
― some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:16 (nine years ago) link
Bless you.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:21 (nine years ago) link
Off topic question that I'm curious about:When people make Spotify playlists for things like this, is it done manually by looking up each individual song or is there a quicker way?
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:25 (nine years ago) link
How 'bout Joe Cocker? "Feelin' Alright" and "With A Little Help From My Friends" are staples.
― voodoo chili, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link
You can c+p a list of songs into http://www.ivyishere.org/ivy and it will do its best to give you a Spotify playlist back xp
― dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:42 (nine years ago) link
Joe Walsh - MeadowsDeep Purple - Woman from TokyoGrand Funk - Bad Time
― clemenza, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:43 (nine years ago) link
Lol, or you could turn on the radio for a couple of days.:P [ / ducks]
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:48 (nine years ago) link
wow, seandalai, great tip, will def give that a try
― some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:49 (nine years ago) link
I tried it during the Motown poll with some ridiculous list of songs -- close to 1000 I think -- and it churned and churned away at it. I thought I'd broken something but it finally generated a decent playlist. (Completely forgot about it after that.)
― no matter how crabby of a mood I’m in because of the New World Order (WilliamC), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:52 (nine years ago) link
it's a tragedy that Great White's "once bitten" is disqualified due to its 1987 release as it's my own personal quintessential CR track
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:53 (nine years ago) link
1989 even! damn.
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:55 (nine years ago) link
I don't own a radio!
― Jeff, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:57 (nine years ago) link
once bitten twice shy is a cover.
― how's life, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:57 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, the original would qualify chronologically but did it actually get that much airplay in North America?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link