CLASSIC ROCK TRACKS POLL parking lot tailgate pre-party -- nominations, discussions, parameters, etc.

Also feel like Appetite for Destruction is the bellwether that makes the '86 cutoff so crucial. I take back even mentioning "Free Fallin'"

By the time Slash played a solo in "Sweet Child O Mine" with full blown wah pedal, it already felt like a reappropriation of another era. It's definitely the line between the old guard and the new at the time.

There's a strain of Hard Classic Rock mini formats that include GNR and Def Leppard and stuff but that's another dope animal. That whole mid-late 80s hard rock scene scared me as a young kid, all these depraved demons screaming about sex while guitar lava exploded everywhere

one more from the great robert palmer: you're gonna get what's coming

harry nilsson - jump into the fire (even as i nominate it, i'm unclear on whether this is revisionist classic rock history or actual classic rock history. thoughts?)

i get why we might want to force a cutoff point, and '87 seems as good (and as arbitrary) as any. so fine. but including songs that were swept under the "classic rock" umbrella well after that '87 cutoff while still policing the release date itself is sort of bizarre and leads to perversities like arguing that "shake it up" and "i want a new drug" are legit, time-hallowed classic rock jams while "free fallin'" and "sweet child o' mine" aren't. no biggie, but it's strange.

first time i ever heard "jump into the fire" was in goodfellas. it was pretty obscure at that point, certainly not a classic rock staple. may have snuck into a few playlists since?

Okay, I came up with a handful to add

Ozark Mountain Daredevils - Jackie Blue
Paul Simon - Late in the Evening
Hamilton Joe Frank & Reynolds - Don't Pull Your Love
Pilot - Magic
John Stewart - Gold

i have no idea if "gold" qualifies as classic rock or not -- seems more AM/oldies to me-- but damn that is a great song that deserves as much love as it can possibly get. the first time i found myself "driving over kanan" after i moved to LA was a huge moment for me.

yeah I wasn't sure about Gold...but since Stevie & Fleetwood Mac are already a lock, it seemed worth a shot :)

I got to say I heard Detroit Rock City and some of the other early Kiss classics way more than Beth on the radio. Maybe it was an Indiana thing, but at night they would sometimes even do the long intro. on Detroit Rock City. I'd say maybe more regional hits, but ones that got played a ton back when I was in high school along the usual staples.

i mean...i pre-nominated "Beth" and someone else nominated "Detroit Rock City" days ago, but it doesn't really mean anything or matter when different things were nominated. it's all in there now, and people can voice their opinions about them with their ballots.

Robert Cray- Smoking Gun
Robert Cray- Right Next Door

moreso than "strong persuader", or did someone already nom that?

I think right next door is same song

By which I mean "Strong Persauder" is actually called "Right Next Door (Because of Me)"

lol, okay duh. that one!

as you can tell, i don't know anything abt rbt cray, but i do like that song. only track of his i've ever heard on the radio, tho it was NPR.

Two different songs.

Also: YES on the Cars. Every song from the debut I heard at some point in the eighties and earll nineties on classic rock radio.

oh duh sorry: I read "Strong Persuader" as "Smoking Gun" for some reason.

Someone with more time than me, please Spotify all these noms.

Cray was interesting to me, as he seemed the only black artist besides Hendrix and Living Colour that I ever heard on my local classic rock station.

o yeah, good point - "cult of personality"

I will make a master Spotify playlist of all nominated tracks, will be posted in the voting thread after the noms are done.

Bless you.

Off topic question that I'm curious about:
When people make Spotify playlists for things like this, is it done manually by looking up each individual song or is there a quicker way?

How 'bout Joe Cocker? "Feelin' Alright" and "With A Little Help From My Friends" are staples.

You can c+p a list of songs into http://www.ivyishere.org/ivy and it will do its best to give you a Spotify playlist back xp

Joe Walsh - Meadows
Deep Purple - Woman from Tokyo
Grand Funk - Bad Time

Someone with more time than me, please Spotify all these noms.

Lol, or you could turn on the radio for a couple of days.:P [ / ducks]

wow, seandalai, great tip, will def give that a try

I tried it during the Motown poll with some ridiculous list of songs -- close to 1000 I think -- and it churned and churned away at it. I thought I'd broken something but it finally generated a decent playlist. (Completely forgot about it after that.)

it's a tragedy that Great White's "once bitten" is disqualified due to its 1987 release as it's my own personal quintessential CR track

1989 even! damn.

I don't own a radio!

once bitten twice shy is a cover.

Yeah, the original would qualify chronologically but did it actually get that much airplay in North America?

Nick Gilder - Hot Child in the City

Gilder's a good one, might make my Hot Hundred.

are covers disqualified?

never heard the ian hunter version on the radio iirc

Joe Jackson - Is She Really Going Out With Him?
Bruce Hornsby - The Way It Is

xp: too true.

Covers are fine if it's the version that gets radio airplay. Will generally stick with the most appropriate version of the song unless there are 2 really big ones (Kinks as well as Van Halen for "You Really Got Me" is the only example that springs to mind).

at any rate, you will have a chance to vote for Once Bitten, Twice Shy in the hair metal poll, coming up in about 6 months or so.

whew

Rod Stewart - You Wear It Well
Rod Stewart - Reason to Believe
Warren Zevon - Excitable Boy

60's cult(ish) classics to maybe consider:

Bob Seger - Two Plus Two
Fleetwood Mac - Oh Well
Love - 7 and 7 Is
Move - I Can Hear The Grass Grow
Paul Revere - Kicks
Laura Nyro – Wedding Bell Blues
Left Banke - Pretty Ballerina

don't know where to start or stop with the Stones nominations.

I love (love love) Love but have never, ever heard them on the radio, except the time I played "7 and 7" at my college station. (Never heard the Move either.)

not even "Do Ya"? or is it the ELO version that gets played?

I didn't realize a hair metal was up so soon in the queue. With that in mind I'm tempted to trim the Crue/Ratt/Quiet Riot stuff out of the noms, and possibly also expand the timeframe into 87, 88 and maybe 89 (my concern with that era was partly how hair metal-heavy the 87-89 selections would be).