CLASSIC ROCK TRACKS POLL parking lot tailgate pre-party -- nominations, discussions, parameters, etc.

Never heard "Cowboy Song" on the radio before, CR or otherwise.

ditto, though I wish I had!

can i just

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i have heard Cowboy Song on the radio you bastards

lol gr8080

hahahahaha

Is THE BONE the one with the morning jocks you can't figure out why they haven't been put in sacks and dropped in the bay?

― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cf every classic rock station everywhere

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no these guys are definitively worse

― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dropping these guys into the bay is too good for them.

christ

D:

The weekday on-air staff at The Bone consists of Lamont & Tonelli (with "Super Producer" Sully, Baby Huey & Chasta), Steven Seaweed, Tim Jeffreys, Nikki Blakk.

Re: Cowboy Song. I've never heard it on the radio, but it's a rock song released in 1976 by a classic rock band, from an album (Jailbreak) with two classic rock radio staples ("The Boys Are Back in Town" and the title track) and was released as the third single in the US behind the first two songs. I understand leaving it off if the poll is meant to be a survey of the best songs of "classic rock radio," but "Cowboy Song" unquestionably belongs to genre of Classic Rock as we understand it today and should be included if this is a genre poll.

it's not a genre poll. it's a radio format poll.

I think my criterion for voting is going to be whether I want to turn it up or turn it off

xp then there you have it. it might be a little too deep for the poll

And if we're including the Clash, maybe "I Fought the Law"?

OK: I plan to read this whole fucker and digest what's been said, but looking at the initial list, it reminds me why listening to classic rock at, say, my father in law's house over the holidays or some place where everybody else enjoys it or doesn't pay attention to it drives me fuckin' crazy.

probly 3/4s of those songs I like or love or are among my favorite songs ever made. but taken as an unchanging canon, the soundtrack of the mid-late 20th century overclass, Lee Abrams' legacy and the body of popular music held up as, like, when music wuz good, before african americans and MTV and so forth forgot their place, makes my skin crawl. Maybe the fact that I'm 43 accounts for a lot of this, but any five songs above played together, combined with Schmucky and FuckFace talking about how great Seger is and that there will be dollar drafts at Patty O Furniture's this Tuesday, is infuriating.

I live in Ditmas Park, BK and don't have a car. But after FCC urged me to contribute to this thread, I walked over to my friends house and picked up his car as he will be going away for a week. Got in the car, thought of this thread, held my breath and turned on Q104.3, Clear Channel's NYC flagship. And there was "I don't care any more" a now overlooked Phil Collins tune. "In the air tonight" has no power any longer, but this tune retains to me how eccentric his shit could be.

And then "Come together" came on. Fuck if I was gonna listen to that! Spent the rest of the hour listening to pop/r&b/the new NYC country station. Listened to three tunes on the latter about trucks and chicks and drinking that probly annoy people who live in the south, but sounded great to me, as I think pop music should always have songs about partying and wanting to fuck or fucking chicks/guys but am not regularly exposed to the likes of Florida Georgia Line or Jason Aldean or Miranda Lambert. Also heard Tre songz "Na Na," Katy Perry "Birthday" Icona Pop "I Love it" which I love, and a bunch of IDM/Avicii-sounding songs which I don't. But they all sound alive. Unlike the effect of listening to Classic rock.

later we should talk about how there really was no classic rock until, say, 1986 (preceded by AOR, which did play new shit, but only by "rock artists." That's when the door was slammed shut, and only GnR, Metallica, U2, a few Clash songs, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Green Day and the Red Hot Chili Peppers were allowed in.

not only is "Come Together" the most played Beatles song on contemporary CR radio, the Aerosmith version is played more than the original. it's kind of a perfect emblem for what sucks about the format.

the Aerosmith version is played more than the original.

...ugh, really?

not gonna get in the habit of spilling out the airplay stats i have, but yeah

tbf, Aerosmith's version is just as classic as the film it's from.

otm

some dude, don't hold back on yr stats

I hope to hell he saves them for the rollout.

ooh good point

as you were

that is astonishing! I have never, ever heard the Aerosmith version on CR radio. I can't even hear it in my head.

i hear it all the time

xp

i think the cutoff for the the fully-ossified CR format hits earlier than '86, if only cuz it was familiar to me by the time i graduated (note: not graduated) in '85. and yeah, the stinkblanket of rockist conservatism (if not outright racism & homophobia) hangs over this thread whether or not we care address it, though i'm not sure what might be said here that hasn't been well explored elsewhere on ILM. it's a fucked-up, deeply tainted format, and though that goes w/out saying, i don't suppose it can be allowed to go w/out saying.

Spent the rest of the hour listening to pop/r&b/the new NYC country station. Listened to three tunes on the latter about trucks and chicks and drinking that probly annoy people who live in the south, but sounded great to me, as I think pop music should always have songs about partying and wanting to fuck or fucking chicks/guys but am not regularly exposed to the likes of Florida Georgia Line or Jason Aldean or Miranda Lambert.

I've been listening to 97.9 The Loop all day for this poll and you know what? I knew that "Reach down between my legs, ease the seat back" was about sex, but seriously until just now I though he was telling her to reach down between his legs to the floor where the lever that leans the seat back is located, so she can lean the seat back and they can do it. It's like I couldn't process that David Lee Roth was straight up saying, "Hey, grab my dick!" in the middle of this song, so I just turned it into a vehicle operation instruction.

When I was a kid, I thought Hot Dog & a Shake was about lunch at Hardee's.

Just, you know, speaking of David Lee Roth and his dick...

I never even knew Aerosmith covered Come Together. That's probably for the best

Aerosmith also covered "I'm Down" and "Helter Skelter".

I've been listening to 97.9 The Loop all day for this poll and you know what? I knew that "Reach down between my legs, ease the seat back" was about sex, but seriously until just now I though he was telling her to reach down between his legs to the floor where the lever that leans the seat back is located, so she can lean the seat back and they can do it. It's like I couldn't process that David Lee Roth was straight up saying, "Hey, grab my dick!" in the middle of this song, so I just turned it into a vehicle operation instruction.

It means both those thing, though. Double entrendre.

but speaking of conservative formats & the soundtrack of the american overclass...

country radio??? no way. i mean, it's conservative in the same way that most commercial radio formats are innately conservative, but otherwise, no. it's a relentlessly current and relentlessly pop format that makes room for taylor swift and hunter hayes and florida georgia line and eric church, and still allows for the occasional tim mcgraw or george strait tune while otherwise rejecting its elders with the same enthusiasm and quickness that, say, mtv does.

and it's no more the soundtrack of the american overclass than iggy azalea or lil jon is.

veronica's fantastic post for some reason made me think of kid rock's "all summer long," which took two classic rock staples and wrestled them out of classic rock's usual context. country radio played it. pop radio played it. do classic rock stations ever play it, or any kid rock for that matter?

my hunch is that if any Kid Rock song ever makes it onto CRR playlists it'd be "Only God Knows Why"

I seem to hear "All Summer Long" a lot

but that might be a BOB/JACK format thing, I dunno

FCC: I think that not living in the, ahem, flyover parts of the country like you and I do prevents us from understanding how prevalent country is (or do you hear modern country in the wild in LA?) Your average self-identified music fan, which for this purpose includes Wilco-ites/pitchforkites/ your smug Dero substitute at the bar as well as the ILM-erati, encounters country all the time, and I think associates it with the very worst of suburban thoughtlessness—maybe people who think the World Cup is for foreign faggots, for instance. Me, I just look at all those country videos with hot white chicks and…um really like it. that the country radio format is being recognized as being dynamic in pop-ist nests and by Jody Rosen probly does not short-circuit the resentment people who live in the south, west, midwest and shit probly everywhere except the Northeast feel for what it represents.

Are you guys sure that classic rock is not the soundtrack of the American proletariat?

Yeah calling country music and classic rock the soundtrack of the "overclass" whatever that is is some sort of sub-Berkeley freshman thesis crap.

Or somebody who's never been to the Midwest or the south.

I think classic rock is just a catch-all term for " rock music for baby boomers" just as 'alternative rock' will be (already is?) a catch all term for people my age (20s/30s) who listened to rock. "Alternative radio" is pretty big in St. Louis.

There's nothing more dire than "alternative radio"

I think classic rock is just a catch-all term for " rock music for baby boomers" just as 'alternative rock' will be (already is?) a catch all term for people my age (20s/30s) who listened to rock. "Alternative radio" is pretty big in St. Louis.

i think they're both badges of exclusion.

Yeah, perhaps "overclass" isn't right. More like a proto tea party soundtrack, where it represents a perfected form that appeals to folks that are discomfited by modernity. My peers and myself, scions of the overclass of lville ky, tended to go for sst, Amrep, misfits, skater shit. The very rich kids, tho, thought they were really counter culture for becoming deadheads. Pre punk 60s music was seen by prep school kids whose dads ran the CIA as real rebel music opposed to frivolous false 80s pop music. So the offspring of the overclass did go for classic rock, despite being oblivious to conservative this predeliction is.

relevant post from this thread: So what is this BUTT ROCK, anyway?

"i also think of this stuff as workingman's rock. to the extent the lyrics are about anything other than girls, partying and rock'n'roll, they have a lot of casual references to clock-punching, bossmen, weekends, etc -- the stuff of 1970s blue-collar union-dues life.

― would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 14 April 2009"

Yeah, I tend to agree. I really don't get the overclass thing.

when I'm watchin' my TV
and a man comes on and tells me
how white my shirts can be
but he can't be a man
cos he doesn't smoke
the same cigarettes as me