NE-YO v THE DREAM

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I still can't believe people here (and not just Ship) hate on "I Luv Your Girl"

The-Reverend (rev), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

how did you change the bracket-ey part of your name?

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

two diff log-ins

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i can't really figure out what "blame it" has to do with "i luv your girl" i dont hear it

autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

: ( Sick of these constraining shackles, but I still want to be able to get webmail.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

T-Pain's entire verse is written around references to "I Luv Your Girl" and the whole stuttering vocal hook of "Blame It" is pretty similar, although I might only hear the latter because of the former.

blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link

oh. i think you guys pay way more attention to this little corner of RnB than I do.

I fucks with this new T-D album though so I need to get up on all the other stuff. I'll probably go dl Thr33 Ringz. then maybe the J Foxx album and erase the tracks without any guests...

autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

how did you change the bracket-ey part of your name?

― Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:01 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

two diff log-ins

― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:02 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Year, "rev" = my imgs-off account I use when at school.

The-Reverend (rev), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah*

The-Reverend (rev), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

xxxxxxxxxp deej I get what you're saying about not wanting to react negatively to all of the hype around this... I mean, I'm still kind of skeptical about all of the praise this is getting from certain people, but it is a great album and is deserving of the praise so... maybe this will get people to check out more modern r&b - lvm is a great album, but there are lots of others! j holiday just released a really good follow-up album. maybe it isn't as exciting or as much of an 'event'album as LvM but it's a really good record.

messageboard killa/ilx gorilla (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 06:46 (fifteen years ago) link

about wanting to**

messageboard killa/ilx gorilla (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 06:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyway, I went to buy this and it was SOLD OUT at two different stores. This album really feels like an EVENT - the 106 & Park takeover, sold out a bunch of places, rave reviews, everyone seems excited about it (not just on the internet), which is so cool...

also "mr. yeah" is my new favorite song on this.

messageboard killa/ilx gorilla (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 06:51 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah it feels really fun to be into the album right now - last time i felt this type of fervor was with carter III i think

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 06:57 (fifteen years ago) link

where's he gonna debut? top 5? definitely behind U2 and clarkson, will it lose out to swift? if lamb of god can beat out the jonas brothers i think maybe dream can too?

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah I'm thinking top 5 definitely, I think #3 is a possibility. It's #2 on iTunes - I don't know if thats a barometer or anything, but watevs.

messageboard killa/ilx gorilla (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:06 (fifteen years ago) link

on 106 today he said he expects the album to sell 3 Million which is kind of o_O

messageboard killa/ilx gorilla (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:07 (fifteen years ago) link

btw this whole thing with him and Christina Millian (and her new image) is hilarious

messageboard killa/ilx gorilla (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:08 (fifteen years ago) link

on 106 today he said he expects the album to sell 3 Million which is kind of o_O

― messageboard killa/ilx gorilla (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:07 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

loll

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:09 (fifteen years ago) link

i've definitely gone from "initial rush of immediate love" to "well it has this problem and that problem and this part isn't as good as l/h" back to "wow this album is pretty incredible" after listening on good speakers tonight

i was going to write something about this but i think ill just end up posting the thoughts in here. on an unrelated note i again realized tonight how remarkably epic the "love vs money"s are, but also how great of a club track "take u home 2 my mama is", i think now that i've receded from the position of holding it against lvm that the club songs aren't as brilliant and different as something like "playin in her hair" i appreciate how much they're able to work into "take u home 2 my mama," which has a pretty narrow focus in terms of arrangement. but i think if you take the position that the trancey club track is a concerted decision and not them running out of ideas or trend hopping, you can appreciate just how much of that song has dream and tricky's DNA even tho it's unremarkable at first blush. these weird sounds happening (those bells or whatever they are, bleeps and bloops all over), dream's retarded second verse ("i'm like DAMN/ my niggas like **DAMN**/her titties like woooooOOOO/her booty like woooooo"). then the chorus kind of opens up (or at least it did for me)— i had to run right up out the VI/ pop that, i seen you drop that/ now i'm like DO THAT AGAIN/ AYYYY".

in a way i almost appreciate the way that the middle of this album has these seemingly standard arrangements yet they're still incredible— it's like they stopped cheating and are still better than everyone. i mean all the clattering and bursts of noise happening in "love vs money" and "love vs money part 2". shit is really the apocalypse.

then again im a stan

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:24 (fifteen years ago) link

btw the lyrics booklet is so nerdy— dude has things labeled as "post-hook" and "b-sec"

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:26 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah there really is a lot crammed into these songs, I mean "love vs. money pt.2" is only 4 minutes long but there are entire MOVEMENTS within that one movement. just from a production standpoint the album is incredible, the little sounds in the background and really make the album (that beep or whatever it is in the beginning of "take u home 2 my mama" before the massive synths come in is so WHIMSICAL, it's one of my favorite moments on the album). I think the thing a lot of people connect with in The-Dream's music is that it all sounds like it's overflowing with creative energry, like it's a place where Dream, Tricky & LOS can show off all their cool new tracks that they'll put to use until the NEXT Dream album comes out.

messageboard killa/ilx gorilla (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:32 (fifteen years ago) link

the whole booklet is retarded actually, dream is such a doofus. on top of being an awful dresser he's always wearing a stupid hat and in the center of the booklet they have this really stylized shot where dream is like in this really dramatic victorian room that looks like what i imagine all the rooms in clue to look like, and there are these roses and dark leather and deep crimson furniture and candlesticks and a girl laying on a gold blanket and yet here is dude in a navy pinstripe jacket with brown accents, a navy tie with red and white diagonal stripes and a white shirt with baby blue trim. it's so so so mismatched, and also he's wearing a backwards hat, oh and of course there are five 100 dollar bills scattered there haphazardly near his thigh, because you know, love VERSUS money. it's such an encapsulation in many ways

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:34 (fifteen years ago) link

the little sounds in the background and really make the album (that beep or whatever it is in the beginning of "take u home 2 my mama" before the massive synths come in is so WHIMSICAL, it's one of my favorite moments on the album).

^^cosign 100

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:35 (fifteen years ago) link

btw part of me does think that this album is missing a "ditch that"-type banger, but then again I found myself skipping "ditch that" a lot when listening to L/H because it kind of disrupts the flow of the album for me, whereas everything flows well on LvM ("Mr. Yeah" after the epic quadrifecta (lol) is kind of brilliant).

messageboard killa/ilx gorilla (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:38 (fifteen years ago) link

xp i meant "cool new tricks"

messageboard killa/ilx gorilla (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:41 (fifteen years ago) link

itunes bonus choon : http://www.zshare.net/audio/56855070329666ea/

messageboard killa/ilx gorilla (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:53 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah "mr. yeah" is really great, but it's bounciness and pep seems almost farcical coming after the suite

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 08:07 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah "mr. yeah" is really great, but it's bounciness and pep seems almost farcical coming after the suite

― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:07 AM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark

this should say "even though" instead of "but"— it's just such a weird jump emotion from "you love me baby/then unlove me baby" to "rubbin on my ella!". that's rebound sex i guess tho

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 08:08 (fifteen years ago) link

it's good farce though, it seems fully intentional and all that.

i find the complaints about the hype really funny, is he really crossing over in the US? not that he was exactly hidden before. he has ZERO profile here. his record company denies all knowledge of release dates, no editor i've pitched to has even heard of him, he's not even been playlisted on 1xtra (radio stn for "black music"), let alone mainstream radio 1.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 08:42 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, if it weren't for Christgau, I prob wouldn't have heard of the first album,

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry, getting a second wave of "Shit, this really is fucking amazing though"

Prompted mainly by WHEN LOVE IS THE PROBLEM! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link

btw, I'm trying to swear less

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah there's so many awesome little bits on this album. My favourites are:

1) in "Rockin' That Shit/Thing" - "said do it to my body don't move..." (micropause) "... BABY!" (timed with crashing beat)

2) The "You you you you" (descending to screwed bassiness) at the beginning of "Love vs Money 2"

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:14 (fifteen years ago) link

the pause in the radio killer bit on rockin' that shit.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link

2) The "You you you you" (descending to screwed bassiness) at the beginning of "Love vs Money 2"

conversely, you'd have expected them to do the same with "all up on you like a monster truck / all up on you like SHAWTY. WHATS. UP." but dream instead doing it in comedy stern thuggin voice like a cross 5-year-old is super cute and 100x better.

i find the complaints about the hype really funny, is he really crossing over in the US? not that he was exactly hidden before. he has ZERO profile here. his record company denies all knowledge of release dates, no editor i've pitched to has even heard of him, he's not even been playlisted on 1xtra (radio stn for "black music"), let alone mainstream radio 1.

oh so like you are aware of this! man then why do you always pull the "england is clueless / this random tune should be number 1" strop, you come off like a right donut. the kanye tune might yet get traction but as of now anyone in england who cares is not gonna be someone who buys cd's anyway. (also buying expensive imports is what the uk-us love affair has always been built on!) same applied with the jeezy album, for instance.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:39 (fifteen years ago) link

just remembered i once spent twenty four english pounds on hieroglyphics '3rd eye vision' in hmv >_<

r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:58 (fifteen years ago) link

the whole booklet is retarded actually, dream is such a doofus. on top of being an awful dresser he's always wearing a stupid hat and in the center of the booklet they have this really stylized shot where dream is like in this really dramatic victorian room that looks like what i imagine all the rooms in clue to look like, and there are these roses and dark leather and deep crimson furniture and candlesticks and a girl laying on a gold blanket and yet here is dude in a navy pinstripe jacket with brown accents, a navy tie with red and white diagonal stripes and a white shirt with baby blue trim. it's so so so mismatched, and also he's wearing a backwards hat, oh and of course there are five 100 dollar bills scattered there haphazardly near his thigh, because you know, love VERSUS money. it's such an encapsulation in many ways

― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:34 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol please somebody find a scan of this

blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link

http://necolebitchie.com/2009/03/11/hater

Andy K, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

my favorite moment in music this year: everything from "taaake meeeeeee, i'm yooours, shawty" to the end of "Rockin' that Shit." The way the drums drop out and come back. The same for the synths. The placement of the OHHHHHS! The beautiful lyrics. The sweet hooks. A++++

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

gotta find the right Married To The Mob Milian pic for the 'not a good look' thread on 77

blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

"My Love" sounds like an inferior "We Belong Together."

B-b-but WBT is all weepy and intense where My Love is warm and breezy. I love them both. Her vocals on My Love kill! "Who's in love with yo ass like crazy?" *swoon*

Anyway, LvM is exceeding my expectations. I had a couple very minor reservations at first but they haven't stuck. I can't decide if it surpasses the debut or not.

lou, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I keep going back and forth. The fact that its obviously such a completion of the palindrome doesn't really help in preventing these speculations.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

we never talk about ne-yo on this thread anymore.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, the girl talking in Right Sight of my brain gives me a major lolz hemorrhage

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link

:) Sounds just like the "Purple Kisses" girl, no?

lou, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I always imagine the girl from Purple Kisses as Nikki Franco from VIP.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/nameom/Dreamspread.jpg

dabug, Thursday, 12 March 2009 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

LOOOOOL

as per diddy's twitter (The Reverend), Thursday, 12 March 2009 02:02 (fifteen years ago) link

there are MORE $100s beneath the sofa

as per diddy's twitter (The Reverend), Thursday, 12 March 2009 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link


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