Moving on from academic discussion , I heard Molly Hatchets version of Dreams by the Allmans on atlanta's classic rock station (97.1 the river) the other day. Never heard the Allmans version on radio. Both versions are great.
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Saturday, 21 June 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link
i mean culturally conservative, at the very least generally in line with conservative tastes & values
i'm sure there's a built-in truth to that simply because country stations tend to be more prevalent in red markets than in blue ones, and any radio station is going to reflect the sensibilities of its local market if it wants to survive, and your song about the flyover states is probably more likely to get more traction in nashville than in new york. but most of the songs they play are about partying and/or getting laid and/or not getting laid but wishing you were.
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 21 June 2014 00:42 (nine years ago) link
but most of the songs they play are about partying and/or getting laid and/or not getting laid but wishing you were.
like all* the other songs
― mookieproof, Saturday, 21 June 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link
"but speaking of conservative formats & the soundtrack of the american overclass..."
country radio??? no way. i mean, it's conservative in the same way that most commercial radio formats are innately conservative, but otherwise, no.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, June 20, 2014 12:46 PM (3 hours ago)
― Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Friday, June 20, 2014 7:48 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Most tea partiers are too stupid to realize that they are not part of any "overclass".
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Saturday, 21 June 2014 00:50 (nine years ago) link
Friday night research: Stonehenge on WREK
― Brad C., Saturday, 21 June 2014 01:02 (nine years ago) link
Country stations are a bit of a hybrid between hit radio & CR in that it seems like half of the songs they play are over ten years old
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Saturday, 21 June 2014 01:45 (nine years ago) link
i'm sure there are all sorts of flavors of country stations, but the ones i'm most familiar with, the ones that play current hits, play almost nothing over five years old, never mind 10 years old.
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 21 June 2014 02:08 (nine years ago) link
some dude, don't hold back on yr stats
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, June 20, 2014 3:22 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I hope to hell he saves them for the rollout.
― how's life, Friday, June 20, 2014 3:23 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ooh good point
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, June 20, 2014 3:24 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
obv people are free to look up top 500 lists and airplay data if they can find it, but i'm not gonna dump any numbers on you guys, i feel like it would muddy the waters of discussion in some way. and they won't be part of the rollout just because i have such selective data that it would be silly to be like "btw this was the #14 most played song in 2011/2012" (which is when a lot of my data is from). maybe i'll drop some of that stuff in casually, though.
― some dude, Saturday, 21 June 2014 02:17 (nine years ago) link
yeah the country stations i listen to are like 95% recent stuff, 5% Toby Keith and Brad Paisley songs that are 10+ years old
@some dude: I actually prefer the random fun facts route I've seen on this thread (Aerosmith's "Come Together" being the more played track, the enduring success of Kenny Wayne Shepherd, etc.), i hope you continue dropping gems like that, but I don't necessarily need to see the raw stats
― intheblanks, Saturday, 21 June 2014 02:22 (nine years ago) link
oh, there will be a lot of trivia, in rambling FM disc jockey tradition
― some dude, Saturday, 21 June 2014 02:31 (nine years ago) link
:D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 June 2014 02:40 (nine years ago) link
"Surrender" - Cheap Trick"For Those About to Rock" - AC/DC"Come Sail Away" - Styx
then i got bored, plus bad reception, so i switched to "a mix of great music":
"Dynamite" - Taio Cruz"Counting Stars" - One Republic"Always Something There to Remind Me" - Naked Eyes
classic rock - 3great music - 1.5
― Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Saturday, 21 June 2014 03:00 (nine years ago) link
I'm putting in for this since it popped up on my local cr station's playlist (between Mellencamp's "Small Town" and Stone Temple Pilots' "Vasoline"):
The Pretenders - Mystery Achievement
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 21 June 2014 03:07 (nine years ago) link
looooooooooove that song but as per discussion upthread Pretenders on CR is really just "Brass In Pocket," the Learning To Crawl singles, maybe "Don't Get Me Wrong"
― some dude, Saturday, 21 June 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
contendo u mad
ship u otm
― mookieproof, Saturday, 21 June 2014 03:17 (nine years ago) link
(xp) taio cruz's "dynamite" is great, and his "break your heart" has been covered by borderline (mentioned once in this thread, now twice) classic rockers blondie.
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 21 June 2014 03:20 (nine years ago) link
I know, I guess I was just excited to see something not-overwhelmingly-predictable on my station's playlist.
xxp
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 21 June 2014 03:21 (nine years ago) link
xp yeah, taio got 1 of those 1.5 points (other half went to naked eyes)
― Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Saturday, 21 June 2014 03:41 (nine years ago) link
"Don't get me wrong" rules
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Saturday, 21 June 2014 05:01 (nine years ago) link
^^^
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 June 2014 05:16 (nine years ago) link
on lunch run, i switched to another station: TOS "the mountain of pure rock" (delivered in comically badass softspoken he-main voice). not CR as such, a more general hard rock format. was not aware such a thing existed:
"California" - Alice In Chains <- so awesome to actually hear this on the radio"Night Train" - Guns 'n Roses"Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers" - ZZ Top"Weak" - Seether"Painkiller" - Three Days Grace"Girls Girls Girls" - Motley Crue
― Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Saturday, 21 June 2014 06:21 (nine years ago) link
Nice to see the fourth most famous song on Tres Hombres get some radio shine.
― intheblanks, Saturday, 21 June 2014 06:43 (nine years ago) link
also lol at "the mountain of pure rock"
My local country station throws in 90s-early 00s stuff by Strait, Garth, Brooks & Dunn, Alan Jackson, Faith Hill, Tim McGraw, Sara Evans, Shania etc. like every other song
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Saturday, 21 June 2014 09:53 (nine years ago) link
a more general hard rock format. was not aware such a thing existed.
This is this format, right?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_rock
Our active rock station very recently switched to a 'non-stop hits' format.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 21 June 2014 11:23 (nine years ago) link
yeah, that sounds about right. otoh, the wiki page for WTOS doesn't mention "active rock", instead describing the programming as "album-oriented rock", like back in the old days. listened for a while this morning:
Foxy Lady - HendrixSomething Beautiful - NeedtobreatheImmigrant Song - ZepBattle Born - Five Finger Death PunchFree for All - Ted NugentGuilty All the Same - Linkin ParkSilent Lucidity - Queensryche <- barfOutshined - SoundgardenFace to the Floor - ChevelleLayla - Derek & the DominosThis Is the Time (Ballast) - Nothing More
interesting mix. seems p democratically split between 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s, with more willingness to go for deep cuts in all eras than most CR stations. also closer in spirit to my longhaired, deep toking, headbanging ideal. that said, it's pretty damn douchey (in inevitable corollary, perhaps), a point driven home by the horrible morning show jocks, who seem to have been hired on the basis of their ability to wax obliviously gross and stupid. jokes today about having big dicks and lol casey casem is dead. suppose this is the format that will hallow tomorrow's classic rock staples, "outshined" being the most recent shoo-in from the list above, tho i have to admit i did kind of like the nothing more track.
― Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Saturday, 21 June 2014 12:19 (nine years ago) link
Active rock?
― clemenza, Saturday, 21 June 2014 13:19 (nine years ago) link
sounds like something you listen to on the toilet
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Saturday, 21 June 2014 14:05 (nine years ago) link
I don't think Toronto has one. My impression is that in most of the country, active rock stations (usually named "The Bear", "The Wolf", or "The Fox") and JACK/BOB-FM stations are becoming more common than faith-keeping Q107-style CR stations.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 21 June 2014 14:13 (nine years ago) link
Ha, I enjoyed blowing students' minds in the Prairies by explaining that Toronto has no country station.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 21 June 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link
C&P from last year's thread:
After spending the last three days driving across the Upper Midwest and Northern Ontario, I am feeling qualified to speak on FM rock radio formats in this stretch of mostly small-town North America. I am wondering if this might help clarify some of the discussions/arguments earlier.So:i) Proper bona fide classic rock stations that e.g. play Styx or Kansas on the hour and play nothing since the mid-80s and are well-described by this thread are still a staple pretty much everywhere in the US along this stretch. I don't think I actually came across one along this stretch in Ontario. They seem to have largely been phased out in favour of either a) stations named after carnivorous mammals (wolf, fox, or bear) that play Rush alongside Sam Roberts or the Tragically Hip or the Black Keys or b) stations named after monosyllabic male first names that play Golden Earring alongside Abba and Kool and the Gang.The Wikipedia list of radio stations in Ontario (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_radio_stations_in_Ontario) lists 5 classic rock stations but 16 'classic hits' stations, 18 'active rock' stations, and 16 'adult hits' stations. Of those classic rock stations, I know that at least the Ottawa one plays plenty of 90s and 00s music as well. On the other hand, this list lists 22 classic rock stations, 32 classic hits stations, 7 adult hits stations, and 4 active rock stations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_radio_stations_in_Michiganii) In the same way that a St Louis accent sounds more 'neutral' to me than my own, your classic rock format seems more 'normal' to me on some level. (Your classical music stations are kind of lame though.)iii) I am a little intrigued as to whether this difference is indicative of a trend that will eventually spread to the US or whether it is due to the fact that Canadian stations have to play a quota of Canadian music, which didn't really come into its own until after rock's classic period.iv) The White Stripes and Black Keys have a remarkable ability to blend in so well on the a) sort of station that until the obvious hook enters, I sometimes can't tell whether I'm hearing a 70s song or a recent one.v) Most interestingly, oldies stations that plays 50s and 60s pop are still a real thing on FM radio in the US. I haven't come across one in Canada in 20 years, I don't think. (According to Wiki, they still exist on the AM dial.) Some stations CALL themselves oldies stations but are basically in this format: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_hits― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 26 August 2013 15:07 (9 months ago) Permalink
So:
i) Proper bona fide classic rock stations that e.g. play Styx or Kansas on the hour and play nothing since the mid-80s and are well-described by this thread are still a staple pretty much everywhere in the US along this stretch. I don't think I actually came across one along this stretch in Ontario. They seem to have largely been phased out in favour of either a) stations named after carnivorous mammals (wolf, fox, or bear) that play Rush alongside Sam Roberts or the Tragically Hip or the Black Keys or b) stations named after monosyllabic male first names that play Golden Earring alongside Abba and Kool and the Gang.
The Wikipedia list of radio stations in Ontario (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_radio_stations_in_Ontario) lists 5 classic rock stations but 16 'classic hits' stations, 18 'active rock' stations, and 16 'adult hits' stations. Of those classic rock stations, I know that at least the Ottawa one plays plenty of 90s and 00s music as well. On the other hand, this list lists 22 classic rock stations, 32 classic hits stations, 7 adult hits stations, and 4 active rock stations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_radio_stations_in_Michigan
ii) In the same way that a St Louis accent sounds more 'neutral' to me than my own, your classic rock format seems more 'normal' to me on some level. (Your classical music stations are kind of lame though.)
iii) I am a little intrigued as to whether this difference is indicative of a trend that will eventually spread to the US or whether it is due to the fact that Canadian stations have to play a quota of Canadian music, which didn't really come into its own until after rock's classic period.
iv) The White Stripes and Black Keys have a remarkable ability to blend in so well on the a) sort of station that until the obvious hook enters, I sometimes can't tell whether I'm hearing a 70s song or a recent one.
v) Most interestingly, oldies stations that plays 50s and 60s pop are still a real thing on FM radio in the US. I haven't come across one in Canada in 20 years, I don't think. (According to Wiki, they still exist on the AM dial.) Some stations CALL themselves oldies stations but are basically in this format: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_hits
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 26 August 2013 15:07 (9 months ago) Permalink
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 21 June 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link
Two late additions to the master list:
Deep Purple - Fireball (best organ solo ever?)Golden Earring - When the Lady Smiles
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 22 June 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
So are we doing the Made in Japan version of Highway Star or the album version? Live Highway Star is a prime contender for my number one spot, but the album version might not make my ballot.
― voodoo chili, Sunday, 22 June 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link
I think I've only ever heard the studio version on the radio
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Sunday, 22 June 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
me too
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 June 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (1000 of them)
― Bee OK, Sunday, 22 June 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link
what? you think this thread has "run its course"?
― g simmel, Sunday, 22 June 2014 23:52 (nine years ago) link
nope, not at all. in fact if this thread is already 1000 posts the actual results thread will be massive, as it should.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 22 June 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link
― voodoo chili, Sunday, June 22, 2014 4:06 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Made in Japan by far the best version but I've never heard it on radio
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Monday, 23 June 2014 03:06 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bINvvAwE5mM&feature=kp
better version
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 23 June 2014 04:40 (nine years ago) link
On the aforementioned Psychedelic Sundays yesterday, the DJ said he was coming back after the break with the first #1 from a group that would have two more, and that this song came out in the spring of '66. I started guessing, trying to figure out who it was. Thought about the Monkees, but I figured they had more than three. Then the Byrds, but I knew that was earlier and that they only had a couple. Settled on Simon & Garfunkel, figurng "Sounds of Silence," "Mrs. Robinson," and "Bridge Over Troubled Water." As odd as it sounds, they'll get played on Psychedelic Sundays.
Wasn't them, but I was close: all three were #1, but the first was '65, not '66. It was the (Young) Rascals.
― clemenza, Monday, 23 June 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link
the Rascals are to me one of pop/rock's great lost bands, like I can never see them being "in" again, but their discography is so great
― Euler, Monday, 23 June 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
listened to hell summer rock-blocks on WLUP this weekend
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 23 June 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
hella*
same but on WZBA
― some dude, Monday, 23 June 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
ts:
Block Party Weekend vs. Twofer Tuesday
Get The Led Out vs. Rock-It to ZepTune
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 June 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link
#1 in both cases, easy
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 23 June 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link
Memory's blurry here - does CR have any use for "The Heat Is On" or was that abandoned to stations that play Huey Lewis and 80s Loggins early on?
(70s Loggins really should be in the CR universe - "Vahevala" has the right pedigree as a bottom-up college hit with a convincingly live/rough sound to it - but clearly these stations can smell the AM smoothness and 80s soundtrack on him.)
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 23 June 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link
KSEG has lunchtime 'Cafe Rock' complete with restaurant chatter & kitchen sounds & a 'Blue Plate Special' :/
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 June 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link