I remember it being fairly big at the time-Billboard shows it as a #6 in the US. I think it's a great little pop one off, but I definitely see how CR adopted it.
Musically it's not that far from what Bryan Adams was doing, and I think it's fair to cast mid-80s classic rock as either hair metal, or having a vague MTV/new-wave image (if not sound).
will be interesting to hear the Doc's reaction.
― campreverb, Thursday, 17 July 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I can see Bryan Adams or Mike and the Mechanics comparisons. I think I want a dangly gold cross earring now. Can we bring those back for dudes?
― how's life, Thursday, 17 July 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link
yeah, this Mike & the Mechanics entry is definitely the most wtf nominee
― Darin, Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link
campreverb otm about 80s classic rock being either hair metal or new-wavey. Choogling and boogie rock doesn't make it very far into the 80s. I think the only other category of 80s classic rock is the holy trinity of earnest rocking': Petty/Mellencamp/Springsteen.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link
hi dere
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1d/ZZ_Top_-_Eliminator.jpg
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link
yeah, definitely nothing new wavy in that one.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link
love that record, of course, made my side ballot of top 5 classic rock records. And not "new wavy" in the same way the Cars or Outfield are. But I don't think it emphatically contradicts my point.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
ah yes, roots rock. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8f/Allentown_Billy_Joel.jpg
― campreverb, Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link
van halen also secretly carrying the boogie banner
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, boogie rock didn't totally disappear in 1980, you still saw it in hybrid with new wave and hair metal.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link
Unalloyed boogie of the 70s variety no longer a cultural force, though. Even, like, "Hold On Loosely" kind of sounds like the Cars.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link
The Stray Cats were pretty popular for about one year, right?
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 17 July 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link
they neither choogle nor boogie
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 July 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
they strut.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 17 July 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
What about The Georgia Satellites?
― MarkoP, Thursday, 17 July 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
'your love' is the worst most abominable garbage, i have never stopped hating that fkin song in its near 30 years of existence.
― before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link
and i love the referents it is adopting, just the song itself is such shit
― before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
Georgia Satellites, Van Halen (Hot for Teacher), and AC/DC are the best counter-arguments to the "death of boogie" theory, and they all have boogie asterisks attached.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
And as for chooglin', there was virtually none that decade asterix or no
― before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
"Boogie Asteriks" also an underrated Earth, Wind & Fire b-side.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
Unalloyed boogie of the 70s variety no longer a cultural force, though. Even, like, "Hold On Loosely" kind of sounds like the Cars. --intheblanks
Specifically, "just what I needed"
I guess I'm thinking of boogie as descriptive of a particular approach to rhythm rather than tone or production style. Boogie survives and adapts even as bloozrock gives up the ghost. Just relocates from the swamp to the Sunset Strip.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
AC/DC lost about 2/3 of their boogie power when Bon Scott died. (Seriously, the songs on Back in Black and everything after are routinely half the speed of the '70s material.)
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link
what the fart is "choogling"?
― carl agatha, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azt-0StLZOk
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
Your Love has been the first song this thread that I knew. From that recent SNL sketch with Josh Hutcherson and HAIM. So know I'm listening to HAIM. Good stuff.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RxBHRZpIdg
Is this not a boogie? If not, what am I missing?
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
I'm sorry I cannot support "chooglin'" as a word or a concept.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
If I saw the aged singer of The Outfield on the streets of manhattan my pacifist ethos would be stretched beyond its limit.
― before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
It's like a cross between butt chugging and one of those "comedy" sex moves like the dirty sanchez or whatever.
i have confidence that ilx massive can convert carl agatha to a chooglin' adherent with just a few well aimed YTs
― before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:15 (nine years ago) link
It's going to take some doing to overcome my revulsion for the word, but I'm open to further examples.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link
"chooglin'" too close to "chive on" or somethin
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link
If I can't choogle, I don't want to be part of your classic rock revolution.
― a lot of really bad records changed my life (staggerlee), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
carl agatha, most extensive discourse on choogling probably in this thread:
Creedence Clearwater Revival vs the Grateful Dead vs the Band
It's a pretty long thread though, so ctrl-f.
― how's life, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link
KEEPCALMANDCHOOGL'ON
― carl agatha, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link
The Outfield might be a poor man's police but I find this song better than anything on Sting's output.
― Moka, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
everything he says sounds like almost words but to me mostly this:
BABA BA BABA BA BAAAAAAAA BAAA BAAA
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:39 (nine years ago) link
Solo sting mostly sucks but the outfield dude could never aspire to the profundity of hoping the Russians love their children too
― before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
bet outfield guy can't even sing a canticle
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link
HEY OUTFIELD HOW'S YOUR LUTE
I actually never noticed the Sting vocal resemblance, though now I can't unheard it. I actually thought "Your Love" was a Rick Springfield song until this polling process started.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link
unheard it, i mean.
*unhear* it! autocorrect killing me.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link
I actually thought "Your Love" was a Rick Springfield song until this polling process started.
Was actually gonna reference Rick Springfield in my post upthread.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link
"Your Love" sounds like The Cure.
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 18 July 2014 23:15 (nine years ago) link
don't really hear cure or police tbh. like yes there's some chorus and dude's in a higher register but rhythmically and melodically the sensibility is miles away. closer to men at work if anything.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 18 July 2014 23:43 (nine years ago) link
Your Love: Sounds like the Cars. Not Classic Rock. But nice. Good opening, ready for some action here. Okay. I think you've...played that enough. Song? There we go.
OH THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISS! That guy! yeah! I don't wanna lose your love tonight, that's where this is going. Riiiiiight. Sorry, y'all - false alarm. Never knew this had a title, or an artist - just part of the background noise of "Eighties, Nineties, and Today!" stations. Never really paid attention to the words or anything. The way the guitar brushes in on "un-der-cover!" is really lovely. I totally hear the soundscape of Synchronicity-era Police, especially in the break around 1:40 and the bridge that follows that. Unfortunately these guys aren't as inventive, or technically skilled, as the Police, so this only has so many places it can go, and the long ending gets seriously busy and annoying - I'm sure that gets faded a lot earlier when this gets played on the radio. But it's fine.
The video is bland but at least kind of sweetly charming - now these are some goofy looking guys. Love the one creep in the trenchcoat and the huge shades. Are they showing up to a gig or an art class? Main guy is trying so hard for Paul McCartney stage presence, though the hair is more directly 80s and he seems distinctly mismatched from the other members of the band, especially Hi-Tops guy. LOL at the paint effects... very Nickelodeon. Hahah, yeah, so it's an art class happening during the shooting of their video? What a weird premise, I wonder how that was explained to the band at the time.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 19 July 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link
We elect you to explain it to them.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 July 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
P.S. died at all the frog dance extrapolations, bravo everyone
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 19 July 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
TS: Colin Hay (Men at Work) vs. Tony Lewis (The Outfield) vs. Sting (The Police)
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 19 July 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link