In Which Doctor Casino Listens to Classic Rock Classics for the First Time

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I remember it being fairly big at the time-Billboard shows it as a #6 in the US. I think it's a great little pop one off, but I definitely see how CR adopted it.

Musically it's not that far from what Bryan Adams was doing, and I think it's fair to cast mid-80s classic rock as either hair metal, or having a vague MTV/new-wave image (if not sound).

will be interesting to hear the Doc's reaction.

campreverb, Thursday, 17 July 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I can see Bryan Adams or Mike and the Mechanics comparisons. I think I want a dangly gold cross earring now. Can we bring those back for dudes?

how's life, Thursday, 17 July 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link

yeah, this Mike & the Mechanics entry is definitely the most wtf nominee

Darin, Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link

campreverb otm about 80s classic rock being either hair metal or new-wavey. Choogling and boogie rock doesn't make it very far into the 80s. I think the only other category of 80s classic rock is the holy trinity of earnest rocking': Petty/Mellencamp/Springsteen.

intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link

yeah, definitely nothing new wavy in that one.

intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

love that record, of course, made my side ballot of top 5 classic rock records. And not "new wavy" in the same way the Cars or Outfield are. But I don't think it emphatically contradicts my point.

intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

ah yes, roots rock.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8f/Allentown_Billy_Joel.jpg

campreverb, Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link

van halen also secretly carrying the boogie banner

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, boogie rock didn't totally disappear in 1980, you still saw it in hybrid with new wave and hair metal.

intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link

Unalloyed boogie of the 70s variety no longer a cultural force, though. Even, like, "Hold On Loosely" kind of sounds like the Cars.

intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

The Stray Cats were pretty popular for about one year, right?

voodoo chili, Thursday, 17 July 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link

they neither choogle nor boogie

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 July 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

they strut.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 17 July 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

What about The Georgia Satellites?

MarkoP, Thursday, 17 July 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link

'your love' is the worst most abominable garbage, i have never stopped hating that fkin song in its near 30 years of existence.

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link

and i love the referents it is adopting, just the song itself is such shit

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link

Georgia Satellites, Van Halen (Hot for Teacher), and AC/DC are the best counter-arguments to the "death of boogie" theory, and they all have boogie asterisks attached.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

And as for chooglin', there was virtually none that decade asterix or no

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

"Boogie Asteriks" also an underrated Earth, Wind & Fire b-side.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

Unalloyed boogie of the 70s variety no longer a cultural force, though. Even, like, "Hold On Loosely" kind of sounds like the Cars.
--intheblanks

Specifically, "just what I needed"

I guess I'm thinking of boogie as descriptive of a particular approach to rhythm rather than tone or production style. Boogie survives and adapts even as bloozrock gives up the ghost. Just relocates from the swamp to the Sunset Strip.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

AC/DC lost about 2/3 of their boogie power when Bon Scott died. (Seriously, the songs on Back in Black and everything after are routinely half the speed of the '70s material.)

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 17 July 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link

what the fart is "choogling"?

carl agatha, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link

Your Love has been the first song this thread that I knew. From that recent SNL sketch with Josh Hutcherson and HAIM. So know I'm listening to HAIM. Good stuff.

Frederik B, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RxBHRZpIdg

Is this not a boogie? If not, what am I missing?

voodoo chili, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link

I'm sorry I cannot support "chooglin'" as a word or a concept.

carl agatha, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link

If I saw the aged singer of The Outfield on the streets of manhattan my pacifist ethos would be stretched beyond its limit.

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link

It's like a cross between butt chugging and one of those "comedy" sex moves like the dirty sanchez or whatever.

carl agatha, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link

i have confidence that ilx massive can convert carl agatha to a chooglin' adherent with just a few well aimed YTs

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:15 (nine years ago) link

It's going to take some doing to overcome my revulsion for the word, but I'm open to further examples.

carl agatha, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link

"chooglin'" too close to "chive on" or somethin

relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link

If I can't choogle, I don't want to be part of your classic rock revolution.

a lot of really bad records changed my life (staggerlee), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

carl agatha, most extensive discourse on choogling probably in this thread:

Creedence Clearwater Revival vs the Grateful Dead vs the Band

It's a pretty long thread though, so ctrl-f.

how's life, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

KEEP
CALM
AND
CHOOGL'ON

carl agatha, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

The Outfield might be a poor man's police but I find this song better than anything on Sting's output.

Moka, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link

everything he says sounds like almost words but to me mostly this:

BABA BA BABA BA BAAAAAAAA BAAA BAAA

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:39 (nine years ago) link

Solo sting mostly sucks but the outfield dude could never aspire to the profundity of hoping the Russians love their children too

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link

bet outfield guy can't even sing a canticle

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link

HEY OUTFIELD HOW'S YOUR LUTE

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link

I actually never noticed the Sting vocal resemblance, though now I can't unheard it. I actually thought "Your Love" was a Rick Springfield song until this polling process started.

intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

unheard it, i mean.

intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

*unhear* it! autocorrect killing me.

intheblanks, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

I actually thought "Your Love" was a Rick Springfield song until this polling process started.

Was actually gonna reference Rick Springfield in my post upthread.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

"Your Love" sounds like The Cure.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 18 July 2014 23:15 (nine years ago) link

don't really hear cure or police tbh. like yes there's some chorus and dude's in a higher register but rhythmically and melodically the sensibility is miles away. closer to men at work if anything.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 18 July 2014 23:43 (nine years ago) link

Your Love: Sounds like the Cars. Not Classic Rock. But nice. Good opening, ready for some action here. Okay. I think you've...played that enough. Song? There we go.

OH THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISS! That guy! yeah! I don't wanna lose your love tonight, that's where this is going. Riiiiiight. Sorry, y'all - false alarm. Never knew this had a title, or an artist - just part of the background noise of "Eighties, Nineties, and Today!" stations. Never really paid attention to the words or anything. The way the guitar brushes in on "un-der-cover!" is really lovely. I totally hear the soundscape of Synchronicity-era Police, especially in the break around 1:40 and the bridge that follows that. Unfortunately these guys aren't as inventive, or technically skilled, as the Police, so this only has so many places it can go, and the long ending gets seriously busy and annoying - I'm sure that gets faded a lot earlier when this gets played on the radio. But it's fine.

The video is bland but at least kind of sweetly charming - now these are some goofy looking guys. Love the one creep in the trenchcoat and the huge shades. Are they showing up to a gig or an art class? Main guy is trying so hard for Paul McCartney stage presence, though the hair is more directly 80s and he seems distinctly mismatched from the other members of the band, especially Hi-Tops guy. LOL at the paint effects... very Nickelodeon. Hahah, yeah, so it's an art class happening during the shooting of their video? What a weird premise, I wonder how that was explained to the band at the time.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 19 July 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

We elect you to explain it to them.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 July 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

P.S. died at all the frog dance extrapolations, bravo everyone

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 19 July 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link


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