buckingham nicks mcvie

brad otm

there are admittedly some really great christine mcvie songs up until tusk

over and over for example

"hold me" is like the best song on mirage

ymmv if you don't like christine as much but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhjdNvxF6eQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xJF-x9XJio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIARC-2ji6I

imo with christine there's oddly no middle ground between the transcendent and the clunker.

I'm listening to Behind the Mask right now (why? because I obviously hate myself). If there were more songs like "Save Me" on this album, Lindsey's departure might not have been as big a deal as it was. One of Christine's strongest post-Rumours songs.

She's so good at verse-chorus-verse with little subtle harmonic curlicues that she's easy to underestimate.

Christine's best album is Tango. She runs away with the thing.

alfred otm

buckingham hands fucking down

McVie > Buckingham > Nicks

^This. I do think that some of McVie's best songs are on Bare Trees and Future Games but she's still on point all through this era.

It's more accurate to argue that McVie's Tango songs lent themselves to Buck's ministrations more than Nicks distracted doodles.

Never forget: WASAMATTAH BABEH BABEH BABEH

darn, thought thread title was buckingham nicks movie for a second.

― pplains, Monday, July 21, 2014 12:56 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same here, thought it was time to make some casting decisions

lol there goes the thread

Meryl Streep as Buckingham obv

kim coates as buckingham

dennis from always sunny has to play lindsey obv

http://images.scholastic.co.uk/assets/a/20/ef/132325-ml-554232.jpg

It should be the whole cast of Sunny, incl. the waitress (she could be Bekka Bramlett, for inst.)
Then there's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKBft-I4UdU

and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKBft-I4UdU

Her 1884 solo album has some good stuff too, but xpost "no middle ground between transcendent and clunkers" ain't too far off the mark.

Sorry! I meant to post this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub-asknyxtc

I'm a sucker for this one. The piano interlude after the first verse is gorgeous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SygGLVKZ0Q

honey hi is a dark horse mcvie masterpiece

honey hi has that amazing instrumental passage about a third of the way in and the vocal arrangements on the outro are pretty cool but lord its good to talk to you even sweeter than wine omg

daddy all im tryin to tell you

oh daddy can fuck right off though

but she can be your daddy

suddenly had an awesome vision of Christine singing Prince's "Sister" as an uptempo bouncer in the mode of "Say You Love Me"

christine mcvie can be my daddy any day

the stars must be my friends to shine for me

Over My Head is the ultimate FM song and McVie the band's greatest songwriter.

buckingham p easily. after looking up writing credits i might say mcvie slightly over nicks but not sure. all three are obv classic.

darn, thought thread title was buckingham nicks movie for a second.

― pplains, Monday, July 21, 2014 9:56 AM (6 hours ago)

me too

Voted for Lindsey, didn't even have to think about it. Christine runner-up. Stevie Nicks, I will never understand the love for her, she is in my top five hated artists ever.

looks like i picked the wrong week to give up FP

Hating on anyone who can even choose

Stevie Nicks, I will never understand the love for her, she is in my top five hated artists ever.

― Sandy,

Stories!

otm Tim F.

Let me help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_clO_FXq5A

McVie's "As Long as You Follow" is one of the great presumptuous additions to a GH album. "Got a Hold On Me" one of the few solo FM member tracks that sounds like it could be dropped right onto a FM record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD7bR_6FRgo

Songbird and Oh Daddy are terrible but I love Say You Love Me, Over My Head, Hold Me, Little Lies and Everyhere more than any five song selection for the other two.

Songbird is terrible? *dies*

damn, RIP Johnny Fever

It's sad. I was a poster.

a good one

It's hard to vote in this because it's an album by album thing for me. For example, Buckingham's tracks stand out for me on Tusk but it's McVie that delivers the highlights on Tango In The Night.

Stevie Nicks, I will never understand the love for her, she is in my top five hated artists ever.

― Sandy,

Stories!

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

I wish! No stories this time, I've never spoken to her, although the people I know who have all say basically the same thing - that she was insufferable then but is lovely and gracious now. I'm pretty sure I'd like her as a person if I sat down and had lunch with her or something.
Nah, I just can't stand her voice. And her songs. I hate her songs. I hate the dopey lyrics. The only thing I like that she ever came up with lyrically was the phrase "Edge of Seventeen" - I thought that was a cool way to describe that line between innocence and adulthood, until I found out that she just misheard Tom Petty's wife, in her heavy Gator Country accent, talking about how she knew him since he was the age of seventeen. And I don't find her melodies to be at all compelling, they're like little snippets of ideas that never seem to go anywhere.
I really hate Stevie Nicks.

stand back

yeah but Mick's leadership has never been questioned, and it's more certain now that he's off drugs.

Don't Stop is great, even if you hate it. Some things are beyond good and evil.

I dunno. I think Mick abdicated his leadership position, or at least Bucky took over in something akin to a bloodless coup. While Mick is awesome, it's been Bucky since Tusk - his indulgences, his compromises, his cooperation. Bucky was the only one, besides Christine (I think), who did not have a serious substance abuse problem, and I think Mick understands the band hangs on him now. Especially ever since the "Behind the Mask" debacle.

(Is Behind the Mask a debacle? I've never heard it.)

You can be essential without being a leader.

I dunno if the band has a leader so much as a person shouting loudest at the moment

The McVie songs on BTM, the only ones I've heard, stick to her tried-and-true and don't sound particularly tacky but no special touches either. I do remember "Save Me" getting airplay.

i doubt anyone's said "guys fleetwood mac needs to do something" more than mick, the other 3 show their power by saying they DON'T need to do something.

and then there's john.

and then there's john

...who has a ton to do with what makes them sound so great. i've always heard fm as very much mick and john's band; the name of the band is no accident. without 'em, the others would just be three very good singer-songwriters, all of whom benefited as much if not more from the rhythm section as the rhythm section benefited from them.

I've always thought the distance between the B/N album and the s/t/ FM record to be not so great. I love the Mick and John rhythm section, but not least because they adapted so well to Bucky's vision. And probably got even better because of it.

i doubt anyone's said "guys fleetwood mac needs to do something" more than mick

No doubt, says the only member of FM who spent a considerable time bankrupt. Either way, this was a good read: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/11/30/business/talking-money-with-mick-fleetwood-there-s-no-stopping-tomorrow.html

sister stopped by this place on her money, said it was pretty surreal - lots of paintings of himself

http://www.fleetwoodsonfrontst.com/

on her honeymoon, i meant to write. gah