Yeah, I don't want to overstate my aversion to the single. It's not a travesty or anything. It's just a bit of a bummer that the guy is on a hot streak and this is the single we got. I really don't think it does justice to how spirited or inventive his recent output has been.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link
It's probably a 50th percentile DJ Mustard single; I'd be excited about it if it were a 70th or 80th percentile one
― Evan R, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link
i think it's pretty good. only part that annoys me is "girl you know I'm from Chicago/ I act a fool, Bobby Brown wit it" because he delivers it like a punchline but Bobby's not from Chicago, it's just a string of unrelated lines.
― some dude, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link
the one drawback of the song to me is that the "don't tell em" part of the chorus is kind of drab, which is a shame cuz the pre-chorus "oooh why why why why" is really great imo. but even the "don't tell em" part is ushered in by this little roll of hi hats and a satisfying lil bass drop so i still fuck w/ it.
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 01:22 (nine years ago) link
It's just a bit of a bummer that the guy is on a hot streak and this is the single we got.
i was higher on 'late nights' than most people on this board iirc but 2013 was a lost year for him imo and we were almost halfway thru 2014 w/ stagnant buzz before this single dropped so i don't really agree w/ this statement
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 01:24 (nine years ago) link
yeah. even if i didn't like the single, the Shlohmo EP had been delayed for like 6 months, and the album (which thank god is no longer called THUMPY JOHNSON) had been delayed for like 18 months. now we're getting 3 projects in the space of a couple months and a whole shitload of songs that sound nothing like "Don't Tell Em."
― some dude, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 01:38 (nine years ago) link
i don't recall having heard a jeremih song since "birthday sex" but "don't tell em" sounds p good to me.
― jaymc, Monday, 11 August 2014 06:51 (nine years ago) link
you never heard "Down On Me"? that was technically bigger than "Birthday Sex"
― some dude, Monday, 11 August 2014 10:53 (nine years ago) link
Huh, it went to #4? I don't know how I missed it, but it doesn't sound familiar.
― jaymc, Monday, 11 August 2014 13:28 (nine years ago) link
drunk late night jaymc knows all the words i bet
― some dude, Monday, 11 August 2014 13:55 (nine years ago) link
Haha
― jaymc, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 06:10 (nine years ago) link
Good album cut
https://soundcloud.com/europeangelique/jeremih-nobody-but-u
― Evan R, Friday, 26 September 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
"Don't Tell Em" in the top ten now
― bobby shmorbius (The Reverend), Friday, 26 September 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link
Still no album art or release date. Going out on a limb and predicting this isn't coming out in five days
― Evan R, Thursday, 9 October 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
"don't tell 'em" is a fucking smash, it's one of the biggest songs on pop radio rn and still increasing. also it's gonna chart high in the uk. how does jeremih manage to do this every few years
― dyl, Friday, 10 October 2014 04:06 (nine years ago) link
there isn't even a video for "Don't Tell Em"
― goon kabuki (The Reverend), Friday, 10 October 2014 05:22 (nine years ago) link
Just checked with his publicist; she says the release date is TBA next week ("hopefully"). Says the album is in and everything. Would be interesting to hear the logic behind the marketing of this thing tho
― Evan R, Friday, 10 October 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link
i think the idea of them doing nothing to distract from "don't tell em" and then being like "bam here's the album" is interesting (if it works)
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 October 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link
how'd they never shoot a video though
how many billboard top 10 songs since, like, 1990 don't have an official vide of any sort? can't be more than a dozen
Yeah it would be a cool experiment. Nothing they could do would make the song a bigger hit than it is now so why bother, I guess. They can promote the shit oh of some future single.
I don't watch or really like music videos so I don't mind that this song doesn't have one. (It's almost kind of refreshing coming on the heels of 2014, which saw critics write almost as much about videos as they did songs)
― Evan R, Friday, 10 October 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link
kind of refreshing to see that a song can smash without a video too, a video dropping seems to have so much more impact than the music dropping (cf "2 on" - that song had been around for MONTHS earlier this year, to little reaction, and then the video dropped and boom, everywhere)
― lex pretend, Saturday, 11 October 2014 10:31 (nine years ago) link
pity it's not a better song but oh well
i've come around on this song a bit but i'm still hoping the album is full of old-school jeremih joints
― k3vin k., Saturday, 11 October 2014 12:25 (nine years ago) link
'dont tell em' isn't bad exactly but it's kinda lame in the same way i feel about 'we dem boyz'
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 13 October 2014 04:39 (nine years ago) link
I know "Show Me" came first and you love it but imo "Don't Tell 'Em" has a better singer, a better rapper, a better hook, even a better interpolation
― Raccoon Newsy Wewsies (some dude), Monday, 13 October 2014 04:54 (nine years ago) link
also way better, more propulsive beat
― Raccoon Newsy Wewsies (some dude), Monday, 13 October 2014 04:55 (nine years ago) link
other than better rapper i dont really agree about any of those things! and 'dont tell em' feels like such a cheap conceptual bite, too
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 13 October 2014 05:53 (nine years ago) link
the house reference feels so much more forced ... like the 'show me' ref was about the beat too
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 13 October 2014 05:54 (nine years ago) link
weird this was such a slow burner, such a bit of fluff
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 October 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
"show me" is better but i always thought "don't tell em" was being underrated -- i think jeremih shines thru that song anyway once you can divorce it from "show me"/mustardwave in general
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 October 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link
i've come around to "don't tell 'em" and rather like it now. maybe i'm just pleased to see that a song in 2014 has finally legitimately crossed over from being a big hit on hip-hop radio to becoming the same on pop.
― dyl, Monday, 13 October 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
"Don't Tell Em" is tied w/ "Rack City" for highest charting Mustard song, history will forget "Show Me," y'all lost
― Raccoon Newsy Wewsies (some dude), Monday, 13 October 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link
also i was never really bothered by "don't tell em"'s similarity to "show me" bcuz jeremih was originally supposed to have "show me" so i can't fault dude for trying to get his slice
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 October 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
but ppl like kev or whoever lamenting that "don't tell em" isn't jeremih enough shows the blind spots of auteur fetishization imo
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 October 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
Jeremih's voice is more valuable than his aesthetic -- he has deep cuts with a distinctive sensibility but when he makes a hit it's just a cool hit song with Jeremih's cool voice on it and the shape it takes doesn't really matter
― Raccoon Newsy Wewsies (some dude), Monday, 13 October 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
imo denigrating "auteur fetishists" can be useful in a rockist context when people are putting britney spears down or whoever and there are some problematic racial/sexist implications, but me pining for the jeremih of old is hardly the same thing
― k3vin k., Monday, 13 October 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link
i mean i just thought it was a lame song and preferred the kind of career jeremih used to have and his old style. i understand him having to hop on trends tho (and obv his career was built on biting dudes like the-dream anyway, so..)
― k3vin k., Monday, 13 October 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
but anyway i've come around on the song a bit, i think it's a respectable 6/10 joint, but it's obviously more of a mustard (who i'm ambivalent about) vehicle than a jeremih one. there's not a lot of technical or emotional range; it's a limited song
― k3vin k., Monday, 13 October 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link
yeah it's fine but what stops me getting excited isn't so much where it fits into jeremih's career as where it fits into mustard's; it's a mustard vehicle that isn't even in the top tier of mustard 2014 singles
― lex pretend, Monday, 13 October 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link
i don't think it's much to get excited about as a song itself but as an agent to get his album matriculating i feel pretty good about it
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 October 2014 17:33 (nine years ago) link
which perhaps is an objectionable way of looking at the song but such are the economic realities of popular r&b in 2014
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 October 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link
Chart News @chartnews 16s16 seconds agoBillboard Hot 100: #6(+1) Don’t Tell ‘Em, @Jeremih Feat. @YG [16 weeks]. *new peak*
release the album
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
Nov. 11
And oh good J. Cole, French Montana and Flo Rida are on it
http://bit.ly/1tiIMOl
― Evan R, Thursday, 30 October 2014 01:04 (nine years ago) link
guest rappers being the worst thing about any R&B album just feels like a given now, i pretty much ignore them. either it's someone terrible or someone good phoning it in.
― some dude, Thursday, 30 October 2014 01:31 (nine years ago) link
Jeremih in album delay shocker
https://twitter.com/Jeremih/status/529348439608655873
Still no final album art or master. No release date set.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
4. “Dumptrucks”
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 November 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
isn't the real breaking news from that tweet that he writes "mih" instead of "my"
Yeah not sure when he adopted that up
i put a lot of work on this album wanna give MIH fans the best #LateNights
obnoxious
― Evan R, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
he's done that forever lol
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 November 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
He's just trying to make people stop mispronouncing his name
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link