you think people are relentlessly foisting her on YOU?? multiply that by a hundred in the uk
and it has to be repeated, not a single pop fan i know has anything but disdain for her
― lex pretend, Friday, 8 August 2014 13:06 (nine years ago) link
that may be the overall sentiment, but didn't her debut single go to #2 over there? i just mean there was years and years of pushing her here with much more modest results.
― some dude, Friday, 8 August 2014 13:10 (nine years ago) link
like, her debut album is 4x platinum in the UK, didn't go gold in the states
I had to sit through someone's acoustic performance of that "Not About the Money" song or whatever the hell it is once and never have I so strongly wanted to kill myself.
― The Reverend, Friday, 8 August 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
This one ruined Xmas for me, forever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9WuNniJZs4
― boxedjoy, Friday, 8 August 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
it's frustrating that those foisted-on-us acts usually, eventually, find real success after we're all worn down and can't fight anymore. 4 songs in the top 10 is currently inhabited by iggy, sia and jessie j. sia sort of counts right? of course the picture next to "bang bang" is just ariana lol
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 8 August 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
Perhaps the best thing about Rita Ora's "I Will Never Let You Down" is that it's like Jessie J's "Domino" but not actually by Jessie J.
― Tim F, Saturday, 9 August 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link
Not that I feel anything more than indifference toward Rita Ora per se. But it's all relative.
― Tim F, Saturday, 9 August 2014 00:47 (nine years ago) link
Kind of interested in the second Rita Ora single just to know whether IWNLYD was a fluke or whether she has suddenly grown a personality
― uxorious gazumping (monotony), Saturday, 9 August 2014 02:47 (nine years ago) link
IWNLYD isn't really that much superior to the rest of her marginally catchy but ultimately boring discography though? unless there's a remix à la seamus haji's "rip" to elevate it somewhere
― lex pretend, Saturday, 9 August 2014 06:01 (nine years ago) link
i fucking love "i will never let you down" but there is definitely an elevating switch remix lex
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 August 2014 06:20 (nine years ago) link
there sure is!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86mRsbXab-0
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 9 August 2014 07:07 (nine years ago) link
I like this new song a lot, even the Big Sean verse isn't completely awful: http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/ariana-grande-best-mistake-feat-big-sean/
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 03:41 (nine years ago) link
hmmmmmmmmmmm
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 13:32 (nine years ago) link
this is really shaping up to be a distancing from the first album, not just building on it
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 13:34 (nine years ago) link
this wouldn't have sounded that out of place on the first album tho? and i like it.
'just building on' the previous album (basically rehashing it) would have been pretty disappointing imo
― dyl, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link
surely there's a middle ground between 'rehashing' and 'sprinting towards a more top 40 sound' that a phrase like 'building on' exists to describe
― some dude, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
yeah the links are really very tenuous but she's gonna have a huge debut week so it's hard to fault them imo
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link
i think we're all aware that ariana grande is going to be a huge commercial success but it's possible to fault the music within that, no?
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link
Sort of
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link
sure it's just one of those things where the motive of the critic and the motive of the artist start to clash in a way that is hard to reconcile
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
that's kind of a dodgy logical route to go down w/r/t critiquing successful pop songs. i think a pop critic can take into account zeitgeist-catching and the commercial impetus without necessarily ending up having to applaud every song in the top 10 just because it succeeded on those terms
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
Isn't part of the fun applauding/enjoyingf songs purely for those reasons tho
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link
no
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link
"problem" and especially "break free" sure, but i don't see what is zeitgeist-catching about this new song at all
― dyl, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link
i certainly don't fault ariana and co for wanting to catapult her to a more secure/ubiquitous level of stardom but i definitely fault everyone involved for thinking they need to take this very myopic, narrow view on how to reach that goal, essentially trying to launch her based on name recognition rather than idk prior-music-qualities recognition
it'll work but apparently the price is an anonymous-making EDM turn when that wasn't necessary and detracts from the possible individuality she could be securing in that higher circle of pop singers
(nb i haven't heard the new one maybe this looks a lot wronger than it should)
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 00:09 (nine years ago) link
and tbh i understand the attraction to big pop-culture-ubiquity when the thing in question is new, not terrible, something the monoculture can celebrate and share together because monoculture is fun and affirming, hearkening back to a simpler time when we all danced the macarena and purchased peace frogs merchandise, but some of yall overdo it
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link
here we go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8eRzOYhLuw
― dyl, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 01:29 (nine years ago) link
http://johnjayandrich.iheart.com/articles/johnjay-rich-good-bad-and-the-gossip-285155/ariana-grande-fought-max-martin-over-12651483
i'm glad she fought Max Martin on having to sing "become who i really are" but the whole "i only wanna die alive only by the hands of a broken heart" is really even worse
― some dude, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 01:37 (nine years ago) link
That may be the actual worst music video I've ever seen.
― Strictly EZ Snappin' Nhex (Spottie), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 07:20 (nine years ago) link
This song has really grown on me but that video, oh dear. If you're going to be a pop star you have to make it look like you're enjoying yourself and having fun and not just afraid that someone will see you from an angle that isn't "that one side of the face."
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 14 August 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
she posted clips of the pop & oak (and childish gambino) song on IG and it sounds great
http://instagram.com/p/rsYyEOyWcG
http://instagram.com/p/rsZtykyWdh
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 August 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
not to get gassed off two clips but it sounds like one of her best songs
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 August 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
Can listen to four of the tracks here for anyone interested:
http://news.mtv.ca/news/music/mtv-first-ariana-grande-preview-four-tracks-off-grandes-upcoming-album-my-everything/
― Greer, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link
"be my baby" sounded like a "right there" redux"just a little bit of your heart" is laughably bad"why try" is tedder at his most grossly calculated
"love me harder" is kind of magical though
― uberweiss, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link
not really feeling the weeknd getting on his mykki ekko shit but god damn that "love me harder" chorus
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link
lemme jump on my whiney shit here and point out that if "love me harder" was a robyn single it would be top 5 on every year end list
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link
YOU GOTTA GOTTA GOTTA GOTTA GOT TO LOVE ME HARDER
― uberweiss, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link
the tedder song is bad but i like the other two
"just a little bit of your heart" sounds like a katy perry ballad that is actually good
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
Harry Styles is adding that to his resume as we speak:
"Like a Katy Perry ballad, but good"--Jordan S.
― Greer, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link
i like that you can hear her voice in these at least
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link
definitely prefer "just a little bit of your heart" to that mika one from the last album
― uxorious gazumping (monotony), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link
it's funny, the weeknd seems to be able to write the kind of really fantastic melodies for other artists that he doesn't really do for himself. m.i.a.'s "exodus", now this
with uberweiss on the other songs...we've heard what, half the album now and the bulk of that is fine-at-best and i'm certainly not getting my life from it like i was from almost all of yours truly :(
― lex pretend, Thursday, 21 August 2014 06:37 (nine years ago) link
the a$ap ferg song is goooooooood
― uxorious gazumping (monotony), Thursday, 21 August 2014 11:53 (nine years ago) link
i think i'm...pleasantly surprised by this album on the whole although that jessie j bonus track can go die in hell
― uxorious gazumping (monotony), Thursday, 21 August 2014 11:56 (nine years ago) link
There's some good stuff here but I'm otherwise left cold to most of it. It's missing something that I can't quite put my finger on. Not a patch on the best songs from her last album. Break Your Heart Right Back feels like such a waste of that sample too.
― Greer, Thursday, 21 August 2014 13:31 (nine years ago) link
man they really let donald glover do biggie's flow over the "mo money mo problems" riff huh
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:05 (nine years ago) link
love "break your heart right back"
like "one more time"
dislike "love me harder" iunno i mean it sounds cool but the song it threatens to be never really materializes for me and then the weeknd shows up and i'm out
feels transitional
― james brooks, Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link
As far as recent songs using the I'm Coming Out sample featuring questionable rappers aping Biggie's flow goes, this>>>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHSaEs6KC8Q
― Greer, Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link
extremely taxing to hear both childish gambino and iggy azealea rapping over that sample within the space of an hour
― james brooks, Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link