OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

sonny bono and bob dornan win elections and your music is just comically horrible, maybe get your shit together "socal"

music from socal to this day is generally not really good imo, the local music scene in l.a. is in partic boring.

of course i listened to that sublime s/t a TON in college and it was everywhere for awhile. but not in the way nirvana was, at least where i was at. they feel like the new social distortion in terms of nostalgia tripping, albeit with a slightly different listening audience. only slightly, though, there's a lot of overlap.

HIP-HOP SOUND COLLAGE PIONEERS SUBLIME

everything sounds stupid if you put it in all caps

The first time I ever encountered the whole "Bradley Nowell is a genius struck down in his prime" was when I stopped by a Best Buy early in the morning in 2006 and was waiting in line with like 10 dudes buying the three-disc(!) Sublime rarities box set, all of them speaking in reverent tones about how much they missed him.

xp

hip-hop sound collage pioneers sublime

does that sound better

I'm thinking of recording 30 tracks of myself farting and getting it onto Spotify under the name Sublime!

Best Sublime Albums List

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1) 40 Oz. to Freedom

2) Sublime

3) Jah Won't Pay the Bills

4) Robbin' the Hood

always been sorta curious about robbin the hood bc my idea of it matches whiney's description of 40 oz. upthread

but having grown up near socal i don't really need to go out of my way to listen to sublime

lol omar

haha

also robbin the hood is shit, thrown-together garbage

also robbin the hood is shit, thrown-together garbage

good to know!

how did I have no clue that brad is a west coaster

faith no more are so much better/have so little in common with sublime it is barely conceivable

they are better but i think in the big picture there's a certain style of socal music, i would put chili peppers in there as well, like dudes who liked early rap and punk and minutemen and dub records and some metal and smoked shitloads of weed...

dekker and prince buster, toots, jimmy cliff, hugh mundell, dillinger, ken boothe and so on tho'.
i was working pr for (ahem) a cover group this past year and finally got around to listening to the album a time or two for the first time and it's my considered opinion that it is pretty horrible.
that's all.

When I was first listening to Sublime heavily, my manager from the ice cream shop I worked at (a black man maybe in his mid to late 20s) invited me and some other coworkers over to his apartment to smoke pot. On the way over, we were listening to some kind of alternative that he didn't like, so I asked him what he did like and he says "I'm into reggae." My coworkers and I got really excited. "You've gotta hear it." I was hoping for something better than "what the hell is this crap?"

your manager otm

lol

First stoner I'd ever met who reacted that way.

When I was first listening to Sublime heavily, my manager from the ice cream shop I worked at (a black man maybe in his mid to late 20s) invited me and some other coworkers over to his apartment to smoke pot. On the way over, we were listening to some kind of alternative that he didn't like, so I asked him what he did like and he says "I'm into reggae." My coworkers and I got really excited. "You've gotta hear it." I was hoping for something better than "what the hell is this crap?"

this calls for Robert Stack in "Unsolved Mysteries" mode recitatoin

Like doing Grateful Dead songs over the "Funky Drummer break," scratching a Minutemen album, doing a folk song about KRS-One, singing Bob Marley lyrics over a Just-Ice song — it all spoke to the post-Beasties smash-up culture they were trying to promote and attempt and see through the lens of smoked out cali loving surfer bros/dalmation enthusiasts

― [Fine Whines via] Treeship, Friday, August 8, 2014 8:35 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think the mash-up aesthetic, in the internet era, is kind of played and combining/curating disparate sounds in itself doesn't sound refreshing in 2014. that might be why i didn't notice all the stuff whine mentioend and just remember 40oz as this ska-rap album that has a song about date rape

― Treeship, Friday, August 8, 2014 8:37 AM (6 hours ago)

wholesale dismissal of "post-beasties smash-up culture" (if that's what we're calling it now) in the indie aughts depresses me. not that the beastie boys (or ratm or sublime or the judgment night sndtrk or w/e) necessarily deserve a long shadow of active artistic influence, but it's sort of a drag that the interconnections between genres have been so thoroughly severed.

also, all this sublime talk reminds me of recent activity in the not guilty pleasures thread. when a artist becomes a comical icon of awfulness, trashing them becomes a bore. if nowell's "genius" wordplay weren't such a constant stream of casual slut-shaming misogyny, i'd feel some obligation to fake like sublime. as it is, i just figure they're someone else's thing. whiney?

If you're bored with Sublime:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2014/08/08/all-that-jazz-isnt-all-that-great/

fuck that guy

fuck that guy

disparaging jazz like that seems inherently racist

is it? i think it is.

inherently stupid

really if you find yourself writing a piece about why something you don't like is overrated have a think for a minute then stop doing it and go and do laundry or something else useful instead

that article is just trying to wind people up, relax

I appreciated that these generous African American men deigned to share their art at a quite white New England liberal-arts school. But I just didn’t get their aesthetic.

being deliberately challopian doesn't make you not obnoxious

it's sort of a drag that the interconnections between genres have been so thoroughly severed. -contenderizer

is this true? grimes is pretty eclectic. death grips integrates rap with punk and industrial in a way that feels new.

sorry to change topics

apology accepted. thanks, Treeship.

cheapo "here's what i think" gen-y articles are a dime a dozen these days

yeah but how good would your articles be if you were only being paid 83 cents to write them?

83 cents?

dime a dozen

i don't know, ted koppel. what are your thoughts on all this?

it's cool that dude got a C- in anthony braxton's class and decided to repay him by denigrating his chosen art form in the media

i took fiction writing from a pulitzer-prize-winning novelist, i'm pretty sure the american novel is kind of an embarrassment tho. where's my byline, wapo

i think this sort of kneejerk academic reverence for / defense of jazz is the exact sort of reason the new yorker, washington post, etc should go ahead and publish millennial bullshit like this once in a while. does it really harm anyone to go ahead and admit that in the end, popular music really isn't that important

it harms the american spirit

this is fun to listen to if you like jazz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-04Dey1SzQ

i just can't ignore these stupid articles. i really do know better. i swear. just ignore them. but i guess i'm just dumb...

i can be kinda dull-witted.

There’s not much difference between a screechy performance by avant-garde saxophonist Peter Brötzmann from 1974 and one from 2014.

See how Jazz doesn't advance? This one dude sounds just like he did 40 years ago.

justin moyer was the drummer for gay dad bass player for el guapo and supersystem.

I kept typing different responses to the dumb shit in this article, but keep erasing them for fear of taking the bait. Daphnis otm upthread, and it applies to this sorta shit too. This piece is the height of stupidity, I'mma go do some laundry, later gators

Moyer also wrote a pretty tedious Wash City Paper article a couple years ago about "the Brooklynization of culture"