sorry to change topics
― Treeship, Friday, 8 August 2014 23:34 (nine years ago) link
apology accepted. thanks, Treeship.
― brimstead, Friday, 8 August 2014 23:36 (nine years ago) link
cheapo "here's what i think" gen-y articles are a dime a dozen these days
― brimstead, Friday, 8 August 2014 23:38 (nine years ago) link
yeah but how good would your articles be if you were only being paid 83 cents to write them?
― Treeship, Friday, 8 August 2014 23:40 (nine years ago) link
83 cents?
― brimstead, Friday, 8 August 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link
dime a dozen
― Treeship, Friday, 8 August 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link
i don't know, ted koppel. what are your thoughts on all this?
― brimstead, Friday, 8 August 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link
it's cool that dude got a C- in anthony braxton's class and decided to repay him by denigrating his chosen art form in the media
i took fiction writing from a pulitzer-prize-winning novelist, i'm pretty sure the american novel is kind of an embarrassment tho. where's my byline, wapo
― j., Saturday, 9 August 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link
i think this sort of kneejerk academic reverence for / defense of jazz is the exact sort of reason the new yorker, washington post, etc should go ahead and publish millennial bullshit like this once in a while. does it really harm anyone to go ahead and admit that in the end, popular music really isn't that important
― panda fiend (sleepingbag), Saturday, 9 August 2014 00:05 (nine years ago) link
it harms the american spirit
― j., Saturday, 9 August 2014 00:08 (nine years ago) link
this is fun to listen to if you like jazz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-04Dey1SzQ
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 August 2014 00:18 (nine years ago) link
i just can't ignore these stupid articles. i really do know better. i swear. just ignore them. but i guess i'm just dumb...
i can be kinda dull-witted.
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 August 2014 00:20 (nine years ago) link
There’s not much difference between a screechy performance by avant-garde saxophonist Peter Brötzmann from 1974 and one from 2014.
See how Jazz doesn't advance? This one dude sounds just like he did 40 years ago.
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Saturday, 9 August 2014 00:31 (nine years ago) link
justin moyer was the drummer for gay dad bass player for el guapo and supersystem.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Saturday, 9 August 2014 01:15 (nine years ago) link
I kept typing different responses to the dumb shit in this article, but keep erasing them for fear of taking the bait. Daphnis otm upthread, and it applies to this sorta shit too. This piece is the height of stupidity, I'mma go do some laundry, later gators
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 9 August 2014 01:20 (nine years ago) link
Moyer also wrote a pretty tedious Wash City Paper article a couple years ago about "the Brooklynization of culture"
― some dude, Saturday, 9 August 2014 01:26 (nine years ago) link
i was ruminating on stupid things as i left for work. jazz is stupid because it does away with the words to popular songs. like they just get lost the jazz tubes and no one ever gets to hear them again. it would be better if jazz kept all the words and ditched the improvisation. then it would be more like the national and everyone could be happy. the fuck does this kind of thing even happen inside a person's head, much less get published?
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Saturday, 9 August 2014 01:50 (nine years ago) link
the depth and character of condescension in the idea that ellington's "take the a train" is an "african american anthem" because it mentions sugar hill while mingus/dolphy's is a meaningless waste of blackness is overwhelming to contemplate
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 9 August 2014 01:53 (nine years ago) link
really, don't bother
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 9 August 2014 03:15 (nine years ago) link
urite obv
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 9 August 2014 03:20 (nine years ago) link
yeh
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Saturday, 9 August 2014 03:21 (nine years ago) link
late to the party ... and i know the decline of the Voice has been well-documented ... but the fact that that once-great publication published that pitiful Sublime piece is really, profoundly depressing
― alpine static, Saturday, 9 August 2014 05:30 (nine years ago) link
man that was one of their better argued more literary efforts
― everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Saturday, 9 August 2014 05:47 (nine years ago) link
http://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://s3.amazonaws.com/Morning-Mix/Images/author_images/140/Justin_Moyer140.jpg&h=90&w=90
this fucking useless pointless soulless douchebag is laughing at us all
― "trough lolly"??? (stevie), Saturday, 9 August 2014 10:10 (nine years ago) link
imagining miles davis pistol-whipping this motherfucker
― zombie formalist (m coleman), Saturday, 9 August 2014 13:42 (nine years ago) link
6. Jazz Artists Keep Pistol-Whipping Me
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Saturday, 9 August 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link
read this on the wp this am w/bloodboiling, knowing it was trolling/clickbait but still wondering how something so aggressively ignorant & philistine even gets published. not to mention just kinda dumb. like with that marginally more sophisticated but (to me) crushingly unfunny sonny rollins satire, it's hard to imagine white cultural icons getting the same treatment.
― zombie formalist (m coleman), Saturday, 9 August 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link
http://www.undergroundbee.com/2009/03/21sxsw1/images/IMG_4660_JPG.jpg
Jazz let itself be co-opted. Marsalis’s critics say that he gives “too little attention to innovations in the form since the 1960s,” as the New York Times put it. But the main innovation since that era has been jazz’s business plan... I’m getting angry just thinking about it.
― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 9 August 2014 13:55 (nine years ago) link
I used to don drag to perform. It was cool because it would fuck with people, you know, because I don’t think it’s very typical for straight men to do drag in the name of punk-cabaret, or whatever I was doing it in the name of…
― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 9 August 2014 13:56 (nine years ago) link
oh justina
― zombie formalist (m coleman), Saturday, 9 August 2014 14:01 (nine years ago) link
Jazz is dead. Long live jazz.
― Dedekind Cut Creator (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 August 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
Best response to the Washington Post piece would be for Clickhole to reprint it verbatim.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 9 August 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link
guys that was all worth it for the eric dolphy youtube
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 10 August 2014 10:08 (nine years ago) link
haha otm
― Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot, I mean she was (intheblanks), Sunday, 10 August 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
Justin Moyer8/10/2014 1:45 PM EDTDear Readers: Per my below comments posted yesterday, this article was not intended as a serious analysis. To better understand the piece as parody, you should read an article I wrote back in 2012 about the Brooklynization of culture (written for another D.C. paper). This article is a parody of many idea shared there: things getting "mushy," music being "co-opted," and "fetishizing" certain music. I use some of the exact same language. In the 2012 article, I wrote: "On general principle and for the good of all, I stopped writing music criticism for money almost a decade ago." I stand by those words--and perhaps I should extend those comments to humor! Thanks again for reading.
― scott seward, Monday, 11 August 2014 13:56 (nine years ago) link
Joobajooba8/10/2014 11:03 PM EDTJustin, why on earth would you write that your piece is "not satire" then attempt to defuse the uproar by justifying it as a parody.? I read journalism to be informed, not lied to, misled, or duped by clickbait. And why should I go read something you wrote in 2012 in an attempt to understand the current drivel..? A piece needs to stand on its own. Columnists in this day and age need to have some pretty powerful and unique things to say to justify a reader's attention. This falls far short, and is an embarrassment to the Washington Post.
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 August 2014 13:59 (nine years ago) link
Justin Moyer8/9/2014 2:52 PM EDTDear Readers: The piece above is a work of parody and was not meant to be taken seriously. My apologies to anyone who thought it was real. The reasons given for jazz being boring and overrated are ridiculously flimsy and ill-informed. Ask anyone who knows me--I do not feel this way. I might as well have penned a column that says, "I don't understand soccer and thus it's boring and overrated." Sure, some Americans may concur, but such an exercise would only serve as a triumph of ignorance. Thanks for reading.
― scott seward, Monday, 11 August 2014 14:00 (nine years ago) link
Soooooo...the takeaway here is that the WP actually pays untalented writers to troll?
Sorry, don't buy it
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Monday, 11 August 2014 14:18 (nine years ago) link
hahaha i buy it entirely
― Sporkies Finalist (stevie), Monday, 11 August 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link
poe's law
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 11 August 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link
is the post claiming the non parody is a parody itself a parody
*punches self in face*
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 11 August 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link
I assume "pays untalented writers to troll" has been the WP's business model for at least a decade now.
― Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Monday, 11 August 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.weareultraviolet.org/images/G-will-cc.jpg
― maura, Monday, 11 August 2014 14:44 (nine years ago) link
http://www.foxnews.com/images/595763/0_61_320_012210_han_thiessen_0.jpg
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 August 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
http://cdn.self-titledmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/edie.jpg
― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 August 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
Whiney, based on this one piece, this guy seems like a poorly formed joke to me too but repeated callbacks of the "he wears MAKEUP haw haw" variety are nagl
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 August 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link
yes, a straight guy who dresses in dragface and called himself "E.D. Sedgwick," and i'm the nagl one
― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 August 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
how INTOLERANT i am for making fun of the goofy/terrible electroclash side project of a white cis male woking on his creative nonfiction MFA
― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 August 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
co-opting someone else's sub-culture to freak out the squares, maaan [at sxsw]
― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 August 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
dude, you can flail if you want but why when dealing with a dude who is making a public ass of himself with his writing is your inclination to focus on him in drag rather than focusing on his public ass writing
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 August 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link